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	<title>Comments on: Do we really need state-funded news entities like the BBC any more?</title>
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		<title>By: MT</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/12/do-we-really-need-state-funded-news-entities-like-the-bbc-any-more/#comment-1188782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is all an idiotic diversion. The truly incredible job that BBC News achieves daily is indisputable. The real story is why the ENTIRE British news media avoided airing the Savile story for an entire year after he died. EVERYONE in the media knew the allegations and not one outlet did the apparently simple work required to expose him. Doesn&#039;t that strike anyone as strange?? The rest of this is a bandwagon of distraction to leave the really big question unanswered. This is not just about the BBC. There is something very very rotten in the state of Denmark, and it doesn&#039;t take much digging to realise what and where.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all an idiotic diversion. The truly incredible job that BBC News achieves daily is indisputable. The real story is why the ENTIRE British news media avoided airing the Savile story for an entire year after he died. EVERYONE in the media knew the allegations and not one outlet did the apparently simple work required to expose him. Doesn&#8217;t that strike anyone as strange?? The rest of this is a bandwagon of distraction to leave the really big question unanswered. This is not just about the BBC. There is something very very rotten in the state of Denmark, and it doesn&#8217;t take much digging to realise what and where.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gapinski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Gapinski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The BBC has recently enjoyed its ninetieth anniversary, during which it has performed quite well. It appears (to me) to have outperformed its commercial counterparts. However, recent &quot;regrettable lapses&quot; afford an opportunity to assess whether it can remedy deficiencies, or will fail to maintain its integrity. I am uncertain of the outcome, particularly when indications of general decline of journalistic quality and integrity abound. Were the prospect to indicate decline, it would be reasonable to consider its dissolution or reformation. Such reformation would best come from within, and that source may unfortunately prove inadequate to the task.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBC has recently enjoyed its ninetieth anniversary, during which it has performed quite well. It appears (to me) to have outperformed its commercial counterparts. However, recent &#8220;regrettable lapses&#8221; afford an opportunity to assess whether it can remedy deficiencies, or will fail to maintain its integrity. I am uncertain of the outcome, particularly when indications of general decline of journalistic quality and integrity abound. Were the prospect to indicate decline, it would be reasonable to consider its dissolution or reformation. Such reformation would best come from within, and that source may unfortunately prove inadequate to the task.</p>
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		<title>By: albert wright</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[albert wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We do not need the BBC in its present form.

Abolish the license system. Put the BBC on the market. Offer a management buy out to existing management for £1 billion. 

If they are not interested, Auction off the BBC to the highest bidders and use the money for the redundant employees and the redundant license collectors.

Use what is left from the Auction to pay Micro Business owners £100 a week for 12 months to employ a currently unemployed 16 to 24 year old as an apprentice, with no tax or National insurance to pay for 12 months by th employer or apprentice.

Be BOLD and get the economy moving]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do not need the BBC in its present form.</p>
<p>Abolish the license system. Put the BBC on the market. Offer a management buy out to existing management for £1 billion. </p>
<p>If they are not interested, Auction off the BBC to the highest bidders and use the money for the redundant employees and the redundant license collectors.</p>
<p>Use what is left from the Auction to pay Micro Business owners £100 a week for 12 months to employ a currently unemployed 16 to 24 year old as an apprentice, with no tax or National insurance to pay for 12 months by th employer or apprentice.</p>
<p>Be BOLD and get the economy moving</p>
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		<title>By: Gavan Curley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gavan Curley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent analysis and overview of where the BBC is at. The only observation I&#039;d add, which has struck me as bizarrely like a turkey voting for Christmas in recent days, is the BBC itself - in full self-flagellation mode - running endless pieces entitled &#039;BBC in crisis&#039; / &#039;Public confidence collapsing&#039;: says who? My confidence is fine thanks - a few editorial mishaps do not negate 90 years of journalistic innovation and excellence. And it is only in crisis because a lot of people and organisations with a vested interest are telling us it&#039;s in crisis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent analysis and overview of where the BBC is at. The only observation I&#8217;d add, which has struck me as bizarrely like a turkey voting for Christmas in recent days, is the BBC itself &#8211; in full self-flagellation mode &#8211; running endless pieces entitled &#8216;BBC in crisis&#8217; / &#8216;Public confidence collapsing&#8217;: says who? My confidence is fine thanks &#8211; a few editorial mishaps do not negate 90 years of journalistic innovation and excellence. And it is only in crisis because a lot of people and organisations with a vested interest are telling us it&#8217;s in crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavan Curley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gavan Curley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes - more than ever. For those banging on about level playing fields - it&#039;s a public service, not a profit-making enterprise. And a large note to the writer of the article and the subs - you may want to amend your headline, which instantly skews the parameters of this debate and ironically highlights the importance of balanced independent journalism: the BBC is not state-funded, it is licence-fee funded. It does not receive one penny from the government. The independence this guarantees in a world of bias and misinformation is priceless. Yes it has made some serious errors of late, but don&#039;t be duped by the right-wing press and Murdoch, who have a massive vested commercial interest in slamming the BBC. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; more than ever. For those banging on about level playing fields &#8211; it&#8217;s a public service, not a profit-making enterprise. And a large note to the writer of the article and the subs &#8211; you may want to amend your headline, which instantly skews the parameters of this debate and ironically highlights the importance of balanced independent journalism: the BBC is not state-funded, it is licence-fee funded. It does not receive one penny from the government. The independence this guarantees in a world of bias and misinformation is priceless. Yes it has made some serious errors of late, but don&#8217;t be duped by the right-wing press and Murdoch, who have a massive vested commercial interest in slamming the BBC. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: JRR Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JRR Canada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BBC is busted,28 names says it all, best science advice, on how to spread global warming propaganda at all levels of the network. CBC is the canadian parrot of BBC and has presented the BBC material as factual and unbiased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBC is busted,28 names says it all, best science advice, on how to spread global warming propaganda at all levels of the network. CBC is the canadian parrot of BBC and has presented the BBC material as factual and unbiased.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Strobes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Strobes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mathew, generously assuming that you&#039;re not just trolling, let&#039;s try to answer your specific question about journalism - do we need the BBC when everyone&#039;s a journalist?  I&#039;d say the top-tory-twitter firestorm rather neatly proves the point that actual professional journalism is sometimes better than the great unwashed rumor-mongering.   The regrettable lapse at the BBC on this occasion is what we&#039;re complaining about, after all.  If we&#039;re criticizing its absence we must, by implication value its presence.

With regard to your flailing comment &quot;the CBC and BBC are competing with private media companies on an unfair playing field&quot; maybe it would help to see the BBC as a mutual society.  Yes, membership is compulsory but license payers all still bear the benefits.  Apart from the framing bias in your use of &quot;unfair&quot;, please explain how this is a bad thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathew, generously assuming that you&#8217;re not just trolling, let&#8217;s try to answer your specific question about journalism &#8211; do we need the BBC when everyone&#8217;s a journalist?  I&#8217;d say the top-tory-twitter firestorm rather neatly proves the point that actual professional journalism is sometimes better than the great unwashed rumor-mongering.   The regrettable lapse at the BBC on this occasion is what we&#8217;re complaining about, after all.  If we&#8217;re criticizing its absence we must, by implication value its presence.</p>
<p>With regard to your flailing comment &#8220;the CBC and BBC are competing with private media companies on an unfair playing field&#8221; maybe it would help to see the BBC as a mutual society.  Yes, membership is compulsory but license payers all still bear the benefits.  Apart from the framing bias in your use of &#8220;unfair&#8221;, please explain how this is a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: geoffreyigharo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geoffreyigharo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We definitely need these public entities to act as an anchor point that keeps the commercial sector honest, both from a news integrity perspective and the entertainment quality perspective.

It&#039;s wrong to pose this as an &quot;either/or&quot; situation, driven by ideological litmus test. You get the best outcome by balancing both types - its a proven model that works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We definitely need these public entities to act as an anchor point that keeps the commercial sector honest, both from a news integrity perspective and the entertainment quality perspective.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s wrong to pose this as an &#8220;either/or&#8221; situation, driven by ideological litmus test. You get the best outcome by balancing both types &#8211; its a proven model that works.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Ralph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There has been a lot of discussion over the years about how the BBC should be restructured. The sadness is that hardly any of it has come from the BBC itself - instead, the arguments have been pretty much those of the independent TV companies (ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, BSkyB) and politicians. 

The independent TV companies have argued for some of the TV Licence Fee money should be redirected to allow them to compete to produce public-service programming - over the last few decades, the output and quality of educational and documentary programming (with a few notable exceptions, notably on Channel 4) has plummeted on independent television. Critics, however, would point out that this is because such programming doesn&#039;t give as good a return as reality TV, quiz shows, chat shows or dramas, so we would end up subsidising the independent TV companies rather than the BBC.

Politicians have their own axes to grind regarding the BBC. Ironically, both major political parties (Conservative and Labour) have accused the BBC of being biased against them at various times - proof, some might say, of the BBC&#039;s (until recent events) impartiality. In fact, part of the BBC&#039;s growth in bureaucracy stems from the reaction to a previous political confrontation in 2003-4, over the claims that the government of the time had &#039;sexed up&#039; the dossier of evidence used to argue the case of invading Iraq in order to topple Saddam Hussein. The government-appointed Hutton Report found against the BBC, forcing the departure of the then-Director-General, Greg Dyke, and a much more introspective and cautious BBC - hence the watchers to watch the watchers, in the form of more layers of management.

Unfortunately for the politicians, the recent revelations regarding the conduct of the press and close relationships between the press, the police and politicians - resulting in the Leveson Inquiry (soon to be published) and several ongoing police investigations - had put a dampener on moves by politicians to try and meddle with the BBC, until recent events put the BBC on the defensive. In particular, the revelations of just how close members of the current and previous governments had been to News International (owners of the Times / Sunday Times, The Sun and formerly The News Of The World, and part-owners of BSkyB) resulted in a public outcry against the bid by NI to obtain full ownership of BSkyB. In the end, NI had to withdraw the bid, and James Murdoch resigned from his role as CEO of News Internation and from his position on the board of BSkyB. Needless to say, there is little love between the Murdochs and BBC, particularly as the BBC was in the vanguard of criticism of the proposed BSkyB takeover.

The danger right now is that politicians will now use the BBC&#039;s many mea culpas as an mandate to impose changes that not only strip away its bureaucracy, but also its ability to function in any kind of independent manner. The BBC needs to get its own house in order - and fast - in order to prevent what some will see as the Murdoch&#039;s revenge, as there is some doubt that the politicians have mended their ways in light of the evidence presented to Lord Leveson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been a lot of discussion over the years about how the BBC should be restructured. The sadness is that hardly any of it has come from the BBC itself &#8211; instead, the arguments have been pretty much those of the independent TV companies (ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, BSkyB) and politicians. </p>
<p>The independent TV companies have argued for some of the TV Licence Fee money should be redirected to allow them to compete to produce public-service programming &#8211; over the last few decades, the output and quality of educational and documentary programming (with a few notable exceptions, notably on Channel 4) has plummeted on independent television. Critics, however, would point out that this is because such programming doesn&#8217;t give as good a return as reality TV, quiz shows, chat shows or dramas, so we would end up subsidising the independent TV companies rather than the BBC.</p>
<p>Politicians have their own axes to grind regarding the BBC. Ironically, both major political parties (Conservative and Labour) have accused the BBC of being biased against them at various times &#8211; proof, some might say, of the BBC&#8217;s (until recent events) impartiality. In fact, part of the BBC&#8217;s growth in bureaucracy stems from the reaction to a previous political confrontation in 2003-4, over the claims that the government of the time had &#8216;sexed up&#8217; the dossier of evidence used to argue the case of invading Iraq in order to topple Saddam Hussein. The government-appointed Hutton Report found against the BBC, forcing the departure of the then-Director-General, Greg Dyke, and a much more introspective and cautious BBC &#8211; hence the watchers to watch the watchers, in the form of more layers of management.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for the politicians, the recent revelations regarding the conduct of the press and close relationships between the press, the police and politicians &#8211; resulting in the Leveson Inquiry (soon to be published) and several ongoing police investigations &#8211; had put a dampener on moves by politicians to try and meddle with the BBC, until recent events put the BBC on the defensive. In particular, the revelations of just how close members of the current and previous governments had been to News International (owners of the Times / Sunday Times, The Sun and formerly The News Of The World, and part-owners of BSkyB) resulted in a public outcry against the bid by NI to obtain full ownership of BSkyB. In the end, NI had to withdraw the bid, and James Murdoch resigned from his role as CEO of News Internation and from his position on the board of BSkyB. Needless to say, there is little love between the Murdochs and BBC, particularly as the BBC was in the vanguard of criticism of the proposed BSkyB takeover.</p>
<p>The danger right now is that politicians will now use the BBC&#8217;s many mea culpas as an mandate to impose changes that not only strip away its bureaucracy, but also its ability to function in any kind of independent manner. The BBC needs to get its own house in order &#8211; and fast &#8211; in order to prevent what some will see as the Murdoch&#8217;s revenge, as there is some doubt that the politicians have mended their ways in light of the evidence presented to Lord Leveson.</p>
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		<title>By: maria moura-pons</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maria moura-pons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hands off the BBC in its present form...Soap operas and sport sure make a lot of money and also the ingnorance and &quot;stupidifying&quot; (Oh I have just invented a new English word???) or in German &quot;Volksverdumung&quot; or cretinização (in  Portuguese) of the people...BBC is an institution respected the world over as a broadcaster of reference! Even we outside the UK need it sometimes to find out what is really happening in our own countries...CNN is irrelevant as a not trustworthy media pushing certain vested interests...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hands off the BBC in its present form&#8230;Soap operas and sport sure make a lot of money and also the ingnorance and &#8220;stupidifying&#8221; (Oh I have just invented a new English word???) or in German &#8220;Volksverdumung&#8221; or cretinização (in  Portuguese) of the people&#8230;BBC is an institution respected the world over as a broadcaster of reference! Even we outside the UK need it sometimes to find out what is really happening in our own countries&#8230;CNN is irrelevant as a not trustworthy media pushing certain vested interests&#8230;</p>
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