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	<title>Comments on: The New York Times: Running faster and faster to stay in the same place</title>
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		<title>By: digiclayinfotech</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/26/the-new-york-times-running-faster-and-faster-to-stay-in-the-same-place/#comment-1271818</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[digiclayinfotech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ok thanking you buddy..
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digiclayinfotech.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;digital advertising indore&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok thanking you buddy..<br />
<a href="http://www.digiclayinfotech.com" rel="nofollow">digital advertising indore</a></p>
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		<title>By: cas127</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cas127]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 02:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed...one way of looking at the NYT is as the oldest, established, permanent, uninterrupted, floating crap...er, push poll in history...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed&#8230;one way of looking at the NYT is as the oldest, established, permanent, uninterrupted, floating crap&#8230;er, push poll in history&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ka</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 23:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would somebody pay for opinionated opinions? They should always be free]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would somebody pay for opinionated opinions? They should always be free</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellie K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re right. 

I&#039;d like to see a story about that too. Shouldn&#039;t be such a big disparity between the two methodologies, not without clarification.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see a story about that too. Shouldn&#8217;t be such a big disparity between the two methodologies, not without clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: cas127</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cas127]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing how different the &quot;rating&quot; services&#039; numbers are - Quantcast has the NYT at 16 or 17 million uniques per month - or about half of ComScore.

I think there is an article in taking a *close* look at raters who use &quot;sample panels&quot; instead of pixel beacons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing how different the &#8220;rating&#8221; services&#8217; numbers are &#8211; Quantcast has the NYT at 16 or 17 million uniques per month &#8211; or about half of ComScore.</p>
<p>I think there is an article in taking a *close* look at raters who use &#8220;sample panels&#8221; instead of pixel beacons.</p>
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		<title>By: cas127</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cas127]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;although it’s not clear how many of these are subsidized in some way by discounts, etc&quot;

It is long past due that somebody starts challenging the NYT on its unwillingness to break out details about its digital subscriber base.

I suspect that there are many in the besieged MSM who may not like the less than sunny answers to that question - therefore they don&#039;t ask it...

For all anybody knows the DNC could be spending millions per year block buying NYT digital subs on the down low - there is a long history of political sliminess when it comes to block buys of political autobiographies.

Having crossed the revenue source Rubicon, it becomes less and less plausible to keep aggregating digital revenues into one undifferentiated, impossible to analyze, lump.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;although it’s not clear how many of these are subsidized in some way by discounts, etc&#8221;</p>
<p>It is long past due that somebody starts challenging the NYT on its unwillingness to break out details about its digital subscriber base.</p>
<p>I suspect that there are many in the besieged MSM who may not like the less than sunny answers to that question &#8211; therefore they don&#8217;t ask it&#8230;</p>
<p>For all anybody knows the DNC could be spending millions per year block buying NYT digital subs on the down low &#8211; there is a long history of political sliminess when it comes to block buys of political autobiographies.</p>
<p>Having crossed the revenue source Rubicon, it becomes less and less plausible to keep aggregating digital revenues into one undifferentiated, impossible to analyze, lump.</p>
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		<title>By: REM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[REM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would anyone pay for the NYT when you can get it for free without restrictions just by using Google incognito?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone pay for the NYT when you can get it for free without restrictions just by using Google incognito?</p>
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		<title>By: DesDizzy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DesDizzy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think part of the problem is the old fashioned/juvenile way media looks at the subject. They should be saying, what is our USP, it is not advertising, it is intelligence (i.e. news discovery) and intertwinement. Next, what does digital media enable. Answer, it enables delivery of said USP to users in a differentiated way (shorter/longer/more pictured/deeper/more sourced etc).

Next step, what do successful etailers have. Answer, the platform. What the strategy should be? Suck them into your platform for 99p and offer differentiated use cases for more. This is business school 101.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the problem is the old fashioned/juvenile way media looks at the subject. They should be saying, what is our USP, it is not advertising, it is intelligence (i.e. news discovery) and intertwinement. Next, what does digital media enable. Answer, it enables delivery of said USP to users in a differentiated way (shorter/longer/more pictured/deeper/more sourced etc).</p>
<p>Next step, what do successful etailers have. Answer, the platform. What the strategy should be? Suck them into your platform for 99p and offer differentiated use cases for more. This is business school 101.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Golebiewski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Golebiewski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Chris, and there is plenty of evidence that readers like and -- when offered -- use the option of micro-paying for selected pieces of content as-they-go -- with great results for the publishers. 

Unfortunately, micropayments do not have any Matt to write about them as a valid alternative to paywalls. Some day it will change, of course. We will even have experts on micropayments claiming that they have always favored them over any paywall or velvet rope.  In the meantime however, the publishers will continue to lose tens of billions of dollars trying all kinds of partially working solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Chris, and there is plenty of evidence that readers like and &#8212; when offered &#8212; use the option of micro-paying for selected pieces of content as-they-go &#8212; with great results for the publishers. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, micropayments do not have any Matt to write about them as a valid alternative to paywalls. Some day it will change, of course. We will even have experts on micropayments claiming that they have always favored them over any paywall or velvet rope.  In the meantime however, the publishers will continue to lose tens of billions of dollars trying all kinds of partially working solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jomar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jomar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://aboutjomar.com/2012/10/27/485/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ThoughtsOnMedia.com&lt;/a&gt; and commented: 
Signs of changing times. When one of the most prestigious and most respected news sources in the world, really starts to struggle, it is a sign that the tipping point of change has started in the media industry. New York Times stream of advertising revenue is reducing to a trickle. With all of it&#039;s competitors in the same boat, it begs one to ask, where is all the ad revenue now going? There are two place to look; first and obviously is online PPC ads, Google&#039;s adwords and to some degree, Facebook. The other area that advertising dollars is quite interesting. A growing trend and a pre boom market, is where the advertisers move their advertising budget, to a media or content budget. Companies are now creating their own news and information channel, online, with strong and longer impact on their readers, who are only a few clicks away from becoming their customers. So from paying &#039;Rent&#039;, companies are now buying their own &#039;Real estate&#039;, creating solid online assets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://aboutjomar.com/2012/10/27/485/" rel="nofollow">ThoughtsOnMedia.com</a> and commented:<br />
Signs of changing times. When one of the most prestigious and most respected news sources in the world, really starts to struggle, it is a sign that the tipping point of change has started in the media industry. New York Times stream of advertising revenue is reducing to a trickle. With all of it&#8217;s competitors in the same boat, it begs one to ask, where is all the ad revenue now going? There are two place to look; first and obviously is online PPC ads, Google&#8217;s adwords and to some degree, Facebook. The other area that advertising dollars is quite interesting. A growing trend and a pre boom market, is where the advertisers move their advertising budget, to a media or content budget. Companies are now creating their own news and information channel, online, with strong and longer impact on their readers, who are only a few clicks away from becoming their customers. So from paying &#8216;Rent&#8217;, companies are now buying their own &#8216;Real estate&#8217;, creating solid online assets.</p>
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