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	<title>Comments on: AT&amp;T doubles down on Bloom Energy fuel cells</title>
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		<title>By: shrivana</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1234114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shrivana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 07:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These mutts are nothing more than frauds. Is anyone sick of hearing this hype yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These mutts are nothing more than frauds. Is anyone sick of hearing this hype yet?</p>
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		<title>By: lindsay leveen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1223679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lindsay leveen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AT&amp;T is the Susan Rice of Sustainability.  The truth and them are distant relatives.  The claim CO2 savings compared with the grid but in actuality the grid in California emits less CO2 per mwh that the bloom boxes.  Perhaps AT&amp;T can blame their decision on a video.  The ne on with Katies and the Bloom engineer ehere he claims the box is over 60% efficient.  He like Susan Rice is telling the party line]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T is the Susan Rice of Sustainability.  The truth and them are distant relatives.  The claim CO2 savings compared with the grid but in actuality the grid in California emits less CO2 per mwh that the bloom boxes.  Perhaps AT&amp;T can blame their decision on a video.  The ne on with Katies and the Bloom engineer ehere he claims the box is over 60% efficient.  He like Susan Rice is telling the party line</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Hegbloom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1196527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl Hegbloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it seems to me that just about any kind of power plant is going to require both some kind of input energy as well as constant monitoring. You can&#039;t just build a coal-fired steam-turbine power plant, fill the stove up, light a match to it, then walk away. You have to keep feeding it fuel, and there&#039;s probably a bazillion dial gauges and valves to monkey with keeping it tuned, right?

No other hydrocarbon energy production system is as efficient as a fuel cell. Anything using heat and expanding gasses to run an engine will lose a lot of the energy available in the fuel to vibration and friction of moving parts, for example. That energy comes from oxidation, aka combustion, of the fuel, so whatever material it&#039;s made of is releasing the energy within it&#039;s chemical bonds through oxidation. That&#039;s essentially the same thing the bloom fuel cell does, only... well, I think it&#039;s more like when you digest a cracker and the carbohydrates release their energy one chemical bond at a time inside the mitochondria; vs lighting the cracker on fire and using the heat to boil soup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems to me that just about any kind of power plant is going to require both some kind of input energy as well as constant monitoring. You can&#8217;t just build a coal-fired steam-turbine power plant, fill the stove up, light a match to it, then walk away. You have to keep feeding it fuel, and there&#8217;s probably a bazillion dial gauges and valves to monkey with keeping it tuned, right?</p>
<p>No other hydrocarbon energy production system is as efficient as a fuel cell. Anything using heat and expanding gasses to run an engine will lose a lot of the energy available in the fuel to vibration and friction of moving parts, for example. That energy comes from oxidation, aka combustion, of the fuel, so whatever material it&#8217;s made of is releasing the energy within it&#8217;s chemical bonds through oxidation. That&#8217;s essentially the same thing the bloom fuel cell does, only&#8230; well, I think it&#8217;s more like when you digest a cracker and the carbohydrates release their energy one chemical bond at a time inside the mitochondria; vs lighting the cracker on fire and using the heat to boil soup.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Schwinn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg Schwinn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. What subsidies?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. What subsidies?</p>
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		<title>By: John D</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1122368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What subsidies? Wind &amp; solar get subsidies but I am not aware of Bloom getting any?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What subsidies? Wind &amp; solar get subsidies but I am not aware of Bloom getting any?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Winslow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1088032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Winslow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Construction of World&#039;s Largest Fuel Cell Power Plant Expected to Commence in 2012

http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/construction-of-worlds-largest-fuel-cell-power-plant-expected-to-commence-in-2012

Another nice project!  This is truly large!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Construction of World&#8217;s Largest Fuel Cell Power Plant Expected to Commence in 2012</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/construction-of-worlds-largest-fuel-cell-power-plant-expected-to-commence-in-2012" rel="nofollow">http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/construction-of-worlds-largest-fuel-cell-power-plant-expected-to-commence-in-2012</a></p>
<p>Another nice project!  This is truly large!</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1082366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On top of that, these charletans work in the U.S., hire a few tacit Americans and then use our invester and government money to hire hoards of Indian workers in India to do the majority of work. Then they go on 20/20 and claim to have the answer to the green energy puzzle. When the world responds and says &quot;show us,&quot; they clam up behind their lies under the ausices of &quot;proprietary and stealth mode.&quot; Even if it were true they&#039;re half way there after 11 years and nearly a billion dollars, that&#039;s a pretty sad track record. Do not trust these liars. John Doerr, you have another Segway. Enjoy...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On top of that, these charletans work in the U.S., hire a few tacit Americans and then use our invester and government money to hire hoards of Indian workers in India to do the majority of work. Then they go on 20/20 and claim to have the answer to the green energy puzzle. When the world responds and says &#8220;show us,&#8221; they clam up behind their lies under the ausices of &#8220;proprietary and stealth mode.&#8221; Even if it were true they&#8217;re half way there after 11 years and nearly a billion dollars, that&#8217;s a pretty sad track record. Do not trust these liars. John Doerr, you have another Segway. Enjoy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1081572</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to mention the fact, they require constant monitoring, use hydrocarbon fuel and barely work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the fact, they require constant monitoring, use hydrocarbon fuel and barely work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Morris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1041113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Morris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely correct!  What a sham!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely correct!  What a sham!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/10/02/att-doubles-down-on-bloom-energy-fuel-cells/#comment-1040967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AT&amp;T is signing this lease deal because the subsides available to Bloom allow AT&amp;T to acquire energy at lower cost than purchase through the grid.  Without the subsidies no one would buy Bloom&#039;s fuel cells. This means AT&amp;T, one of the largest companies in the world, is transferring their utility expenses to everyone else.  This is a wealth transefer from the poor to the rich - Robin Hood in reverse.  To quote Governor Romney during the debate, this is &quot;imoral&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T is signing this lease deal because the subsides available to Bloom allow AT&amp;T to acquire energy at lower cost than purchase through the grid.  Without the subsidies no one would buy Bloom&#8217;s fuel cells. This means AT&amp;T, one of the largest companies in the world, is transferring their utility expenses to everyone else.  This is a wealth transefer from the poor to the rich &#8211; Robin Hood in reverse.  To quote Governor Romney during the debate, this is &#8220;imoral&#8221;.</p>
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