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	<title>Comments on: Why Amazon and Salesforce are pulling away from the cloud pack</title>
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		<title>By: JULIAN BLASCO sofas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1046870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JULIAN BLASCO sofas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 09:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[La nube ayuda a conocer mejor las posibilidades de negocio.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La nube ayuda a conocer mejor las posibilidades de negocio.</p>
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		<title>By: JULIAN BLASCO sofas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1046865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JULIAN BLASCO sofas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 09:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No lo entiendo, ¿es mejor la nube? tenemos que estar al día en todo, no me canso de estar diciéndolo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No lo entiendo, ¿es mejor la nube? tenemos que estar al día en todo, no me canso de estar diciéndolo.</p>
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		<title>By: Saira</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1043002</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with James on the dominance of Amazon Web Services in the Cloud pack and Microsoft as well as Google must address operational needs of customers to compete with Amazon. With more organizations using cloud-based communication and collaboration services, integration with Amazon Web Services proves to be a good investment. 

One good service I came across recently for storage provision is AWS Integration with GroupDocs’ Document Management Solution. It offers you a new and flexible storage provision and you can store your files in your Amazon S3 bucket directly. For instructions on how to accomplish it, there is a helpful blog-post:

http://groupdocs.com/blog/groupdocs-document-management/archive/2012/09/21/announcing-aws-integration-with-groupdocs-document-management-solutions.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with James on the dominance of Amazon Web Services in the Cloud pack and Microsoft as well as Google must address operational needs of customers to compete with Amazon. With more organizations using cloud-based communication and collaboration services, integration with Amazon Web Services proves to be a good investment. </p>
<p>One good service I came across recently for storage provision is AWS Integration with GroupDocs’ Document Management Solution. It offers you a new and flexible storage provision and you can store your files in your Amazon S3 bucket directly. For instructions on how to accomplish it, there is a helpful blog-post:</p>
<p><a href="http://groupdocs.com/blog/groupdocs-document-management/archive/2012/09/21/announcing-aws-integration-with-groupdocs-document-management-solutions.html" rel="nofollow">http://groupdocs.com/blog/groupdocs-document-management/archive/2012/09/21/announcing-aws-integration-with-groupdocs-document-management-solutions.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1040186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The lack of AWS interoperability I think will hold Amazon back.  I do believe they have the right people working for them though.  The &quot;reserved VM&quot; market place is a fantastic idea.  It takes a good team to come up with ideas like that.

Companies tend to start with AWS then move off onto their own in-house solution.  The problem is that when they do this, they in effect have to set everything up from scratch.  I believe up to this point, AWS only supports one virtualization layer.  This may be a factor in not choosing to utilize AWS services based on projected growth of a company and if they want to still use XEN after the fact (once they move off).  

AWS was built for agility, but is there such thing as too much?  That may deter some future customers because it could just be too complicated as already seen today where if you do not have a dev background, you may misunderstand some of the functionality and cause more issues for yourself as a customer.  

There are still a lot of possibilities like Joyent taking the reigns...Oracle could get into the mix as SUN actually came out with an AWS model 2 years BEFORE Amazon launched.  The market just wasn&#039;t ready and there is OnApp&#039;s federated cloud which has the potential to be 50-100 times the size of AWS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of AWS interoperability I think will hold Amazon back.  I do believe they have the right people working for them though.  The &#8220;reserved VM&#8221; market place is a fantastic idea.  It takes a good team to come up with ideas like that.</p>
<p>Companies tend to start with AWS then move off onto their own in-house solution.  The problem is that when they do this, they in effect have to set everything up from scratch.  I believe up to this point, AWS only supports one virtualization layer.  This may be a factor in not choosing to utilize AWS services based on projected growth of a company and if they want to still use XEN after the fact (once they move off).  </p>
<p>AWS was built for agility, but is there such thing as too much?  That may deter some future customers because it could just be too complicated as already seen today where if you do not have a dev background, you may misunderstand some of the functionality and cause more issues for yourself as a customer.  </p>
<p>There are still a lot of possibilities like Joyent taking the reigns&#8230;Oracle could get into the mix as SUN actually came out with an AWS model 2 years BEFORE Amazon launched.  The market just wasn&#8217;t ready and there is OnApp&#8217;s federated cloud which has the potential to be 50-100 times the size of AWS.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucidchart</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1037846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucidchart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We got Visio files on the cloud over at Lucidchart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got Visio files on the cloud over at Lucidchart.</p>
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		<title>By: Kjetil Korsveien</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1036192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kjetil Korsveien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Game is never over. There is always another Alpha Wolf trying to take your place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Game is never over. There is always another Alpha Wolf trying to take your place.</p>
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		<title>By: rahul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1036138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rahul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 04:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously, you think :-/
its just some reporter having superficial knowledge about cloud computing and wants to be on the new..
Posts like these reduce LinkdIn reputation]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, you think :-/<br />
its just some reporter having superficial knowledge about cloud computing and wants to be on the new..<br />
Posts like these reduce LinkdIn reputation</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1035058</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note - MSFT makes an OS and applications than run on an OS.  The Cloud is - was as much of a mystery to them as the Internet.  

Google makes algorithms for searching and indexing web page and selling advertizing.  Selling compute services is not its core strength.

Amazon was and is Retail as a Service (Retain as a Service) and it is a more logical progression for them to become IaaS given they are middle ware and can commoditize middle nicely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note &#8211; MSFT makes an OS and applications than run on an OS.  The Cloud is &#8211; was as much of a mystery to them as the Internet.  </p>
<p>Google makes algorithms for searching and indexing web page and selling advertizing.  Selling compute services is not its core strength.</p>
<p>Amazon was and is Retail as a Service (Retain as a Service) and it is a more logical progression for them to become IaaS given they are middle ware and can commoditize middle nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: RASPEN GULTOM S.KOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1033623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RASPEN GULTOM S.KOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mantap]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mantap</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Klein</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/29/why-amazon-and-salesforce-are-pulling-away-from-the-cloud-pack/#comment-1033458</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@james urquhart:
Great that you are so honest to mention that you were wrong in a past forecast! It is seldom that people admit that.
However, If you were wrong in 2011 why should one believe you are right now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@james urquhart:<br />
Great that you are so honest to mention that you were wrong in a past forecast! It is seldom that people admit that.<br />
However, If you were wrong in 2011 why should one believe you are right now?</p>
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