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	<title>Comments on: 5 things you need to know about cloud in Europe</title>
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		<title>By: Fabien Niget</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1022005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fabien Niget]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure a Texas-based provider is the best person to assess how the term cloud is perceived in Europe. To me this statement is definitely wrong and not using the word Cloud is a big mistake in Europe too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure a Texas-based provider is the best person to assess how the term cloud is perceived in Europe. To me this statement is definitely wrong and not using the word Cloud is a big mistake in Europe too.</p>
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		<title>By: SutoCom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1009896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SutoCom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://sutocom.net/2012/09/21/1939/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sutoprise Avenue, A SutoCom Source&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://sutocom.net/2012/09/21/1939/" rel="nofollow">Sutoprise Avenue, A SutoCom Source</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Pim Bilderbeek</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1005471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pim Bilderbeek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Europe we are looking at a &quot;patchy cloud&quot; scenario:

http://www.bilderbeekconsulting.com/2011/01/four-public-cloud-computing-scenarios-planning-for-the-cloud/

In terms of data protection, the reason why organisations are hesitant to put data into the public cloud is that - despite all the assurances they might get from cloud providers - they remain responsible themselves and can not shift this responsibility to the cloud provider. The &quot;safe harbour&quot; principles that US cloud providers cite, do not exonerate organisations from this responsibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Europe we are looking at a &#8220;patchy cloud&#8221; scenario:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bilderbeekconsulting.com/2011/01/four-public-cloud-computing-scenarios-planning-for-the-cloud/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bilderbeekconsulting.com/2011/01/four-public-cloud-computing-scenarios-planning-for-the-cloud/</a></p>
<p>In terms of data protection, the reason why organisations are hesitant to put data into the public cloud is that &#8211; despite all the assurances they might get from cloud providers &#8211; they remain responsible themselves and can not shift this responsibility to the cloud provider. The &#8220;safe harbour&#8221; principles that US cloud providers cite, do not exonerate organisations from this responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mytton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1004493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Mytton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy to chat - let&#039;s sort out something via email: david@serverdensity.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to chat &#8211; let&#8217;s sort out something via email: <a href="mailto:david@serverdensity.com">david@serverdensity.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barb Darrow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1004382</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb Darrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The researchers all look at Europe in aggregate (well maybe divvied into eastern and western Europe) so i followed the numbers. But one of the main points of the article was that Europe is not monolithic-- different languages, countries etc... i think we&#039;re in agreement, no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The researchers all look at Europe in aggregate (well maybe divvied into eastern and western Europe) so i followed the numbers. But one of the main points of the article was that Europe is not monolithic&#8211; different languages, countries etc&#8230; i think we&#8217;re in agreement, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Barb Darrow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1004375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb Darrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazon/Rackspace as public cloud powers jibes with what i hear and  the private cloud wave does as well.  David would love to chat sometime about what else you see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon/Rackspace as public cloud powers jibes with what i hear and  the private cloud wave does as well.  David would love to chat sometime about what else you see.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mytton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1004329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Mytton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d say that the 2 providers with most &quot;cloud&quot; mindshare are Amazon and Rackspace. Amazon&#039;s EU West data centre is in Ireland and Rackspace has their UK data centres as part of the Rackspace Cloud. However, the provider we use to host Server Density is Softlayer and they offer both cloud compute and storage from all of their data centres (including Amsterdam) as well as their recently launched private cloud offering. 

There is an important distinction between public cloud - where there are just a couple of well known big providers (AWS, Rackspace and maybe Softlayer) - and private cloud, which can be deployed from any traditional hosting provider. With the different jurisdictions in Europe, private cloud is much more relevant because you then have more choice over geography and can optionally utilise the public cloud providers for non-storage functions e.g. web serving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that the 2 providers with most &#8220;cloud&#8221; mindshare are Amazon and Rackspace. Amazon&#8217;s EU West data centre is in Ireland and Rackspace has their UK data centres as part of the Rackspace Cloud. However, the provider we use to host Server Density is Softlayer and they offer both cloud compute and storage from all of their data centres (including Amsterdam) as well as their recently launched private cloud offering. </p>
<p>There is an important distinction between public cloud &#8211; where there are just a couple of well known big providers (AWS, Rackspace and maybe Softlayer) &#8211; and private cloud, which can be deployed from any traditional hosting provider. With the different jurisdictions in Europe, private cloud is much more relevant because you then have more choice over geography and can optionally utilise the public cloud providers for non-storage functions e.g. web serving.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Nicol</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1003919</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard Nicol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a condescending premise for an article.

Europe is continent made up of 44 countries which includes 50% of the top 10 largest economies in the world.

The cloud is nothing more than a marketing construct and as such this article can only make the point that Europe is not embracing a marketing construct the same way as it is being embraced in the United States.

Technology marketing is a contest of ideas. If Europe is not embracing the cloud to the extent of the US, believe it or not that may be because they Europeans have other ideas. That&#039;s marketing 101.

I&#039;m surprised this article isn&#039;t simply called &quot;Why can&#039;t the Europeans just get with the program and do what I think they should do&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a condescending premise for an article.</p>
<p>Europe is continent made up of 44 countries which includes 50% of the top 10 largest economies in the world.</p>
<p>The cloud is nothing more than a marketing construct and as such this article can only make the point that Europe is not embracing a marketing construct the same way as it is being embraced in the United States.</p>
<p>Technology marketing is a contest of ideas. If Europe is not embracing the cloud to the extent of the US, believe it or not that may be because they Europeans have other ideas. That&#8217;s marketing 101.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised this article isn&#8217;t simply called &#8220;Why can&#8217;t the Europeans just get with the program and do what I think they should do&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Delahunty</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/17/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-cloud-in-europe/#comment-1002785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Delahunty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very informative information


http://www.cloudstrong.ie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very informative information</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cloudstrong.ie" rel="nofollow">http://www.cloudstrong.ie</a></p>
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