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	<title>Comments on: How the LTE iPhone 5 will make mobile data cheaper</title>
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		<title>By: zaw min oo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-1106393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zaw min oo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why did my iphone 5 no including LTE? When i saw my friend iphone 5, her phone has LTE? I get very disappointed and how can i get it? Can you please advise me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why did my iphone 5 no including LTE? When i saw my friend iphone 5, her phone has LTE? I get very disappointed and how can i get it? Can you please advise me?</p>
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		<title>By: stefen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-999784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stefen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The FCC needs to come and rule these carriers from the greedyness]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FCC needs to come and rule these carriers from the greedyness</p>
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		<title>By: idkidd</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-999129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[idkidd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 04:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Commenters in this thread are scoffing at the notion of cheaper data pricing but I think we&#039;re already seeing it - just not directly from the big 4. The article below details how Sprint has allowed one of its MVOs (Ting) access to its LTE network. Ting In turn is offering much better pricing and flexibility than the big 4 with that access. As the article details, Sprint is the most aggressive of the big carriers in allowing MVOs to flourish using their networks but both AT&amp;T and T-Mo play this game as well; if Sprints granted access to the LTE network this early in the network&#039;s activation to one of their MVOs, it doesn&#039;t seem likely that they&#039;d withhold it from the others. 

Tying into this article, more and more of the MVOs are gaining access to the iPhone whether it be selling it traditionally out of contract or via a BYOD sim card so it only stands to reason their going to be upping the level of competition as it ties to the iPhone and LTE. More people are being educated about the benefits of MVOs and more and more used but recent generation iPhones are being put on the market which opens the door for users to utilize them as customers on the MVOs via sim cards without the downside of having to pay for an unsubsidized device. Personally, I&#039;m going to finally getting my wife away from Android by handing down my iPhone 4 after I get my 5; she&#039;ll be using it on AT&amp;T&#039;s network with unlimited talk, text, and data for $45 per month using a sim card through Simple Talk.

It&#039;s only a matter of time before the big 4 start to feel that pressure and, as the article says, it&#039;s just gonna take one of them to head that direction before the others are forced to as well. I find it very exciting!

http://gigaom.com/mobile/ting-becomes-the-first-lte-mvno-next-step-the-iphone/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenters in this thread are scoffing at the notion of cheaper data pricing but I think we&#8217;re already seeing it &#8211; just not directly from the big 4. The article below details how Sprint has allowed one of its MVOs (Ting) access to its LTE network. Ting In turn is offering much better pricing and flexibility than the big 4 with that access. As the article details, Sprint is the most aggressive of the big carriers in allowing MVOs to flourish using their networks but both AT&amp;T and T-Mo play this game as well; if Sprints granted access to the LTE network this early in the network&#8217;s activation to one of their MVOs, it doesn&#8217;t seem likely that they&#8217;d withhold it from the others. </p>
<p>Tying into this article, more and more of the MVOs are gaining access to the iPhone whether it be selling it traditionally out of contract or via a BYOD sim card so it only stands to reason their going to be upping the level of competition as it ties to the iPhone and LTE. More people are being educated about the benefits of MVOs and more and more used but recent generation iPhones are being put on the market which opens the door for users to utilize them as customers on the MVOs via sim cards without the downside of having to pay for an unsubsidized device. Personally, I&#8217;m going to finally getting my wife away from Android by handing down my iPhone 4 after I get my 5; she&#8217;ll be using it on AT&amp;T&#8217;s network with unlimited talk, text, and data for $45 per month using a sim card through Simple Talk.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only a matter of time before the big 4 start to feel that pressure and, as the article says, it&#8217;s just gonna take one of them to head that direction before the others are forced to as well. I find it very exciting!</p>
<p><a href="http://gigaom.com/mobile/ting-becomes-the-first-lte-mvno-next-step-the-iphone/" rel="nofollow">http://gigaom.com/mobile/ting-becomes-the-first-lte-mvno-next-step-the-iphone/</a></p>
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		<title>By: RaptorOO7</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-997719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RaptorOO7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First pigs are very smart, and equating the carriers with pigs is a good analogy.  Carriers know that with LTE, consumers will get used to the faster speeds especially as they move to cut back on 3G devices and push consumers to 4G LTE devices.  This will inevitably lead to more data consumption and more profit for the carriers.

Now when have we (in the US) ever seen a carrier reduce the cost of data (or anything for that matter), and just because Apple deemed us fit for LTE on the new iPhone does not mean data costs will get cheaper for consumers.

The cost for LTE infrastructure to purchase, install and support let alone cover a specific geography is far cheaper than 3G.  Given those facts have you seen the carriers drop their prices, NO!  What we have seen is the carriers tie carrots to try and motivate consumers to get off the unlimited data plans (Verizon) by saying pay full retail ($649-849 iPhone 5) or take the subsidized price ($199-399) and take our Share Everything plan.

We will not see lower data prices just because the iPhone supports LTE, we will in fact see the same or higher data costs from the carriers.  They are like pigs, eat and eat and eat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First pigs are very smart, and equating the carriers with pigs is a good analogy.  Carriers know that with LTE, consumers will get used to the faster speeds especially as they move to cut back on 3G devices and push consumers to 4G LTE devices.  This will inevitably lead to more data consumption and more profit for the carriers.</p>
<p>Now when have we (in the US) ever seen a carrier reduce the cost of data (or anything for that matter), and just because Apple deemed us fit for LTE on the new iPhone does not mean data costs will get cheaper for consumers.</p>
<p>The cost for LTE infrastructure to purchase, install and support let alone cover a specific geography is far cheaper than 3G.  Given those facts have you seen the carriers drop their prices, NO!  What we have seen is the carriers tie carrots to try and motivate consumers to get off the unlimited data plans (Verizon) by saying pay full retail ($649-849 iPhone 5) or take the subsidized price ($199-399) and take our Share Everything plan.</p>
<p>We will not see lower data prices just because the iPhone supports LTE, we will in fact see the same or higher data costs from the carriers.  They are like pigs, eat and eat and eat.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fitchard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-995119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Fitchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ram, I though 3 UK was buying up the 1800 MHz spectrum Everything Everywhere was forced to divest. They just have to wait a year to deploy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ram, I though 3 UK was buying up the 1800 MHz spectrum Everything Everywhere was forced to divest. They just have to wait a year to deploy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ram Krishnan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-995101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ram Krishnan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the biggest reasons why mobile broadband pricing went down in Europe was 3. They would enter a market (UK, Italy, Sweden) and just lower the pricing. For example, you can get 15GB in 3 UK for roughly 17 UK pounds. Try getting that here in the US. Unfortunately, they don&#039;t have any plans to roll out LTE network - for that matter, very few European operators will roll out LTE aggressively like the US counterparts. Without these aggressive carriers, I don&#039;t see LTE pricing coming down a lot in the near future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the biggest reasons why mobile broadband pricing went down in Europe was 3. They would enter a market (UK, Italy, Sweden) and just lower the pricing. For example, you can get 15GB in 3 UK for roughly 17 UK pounds. Try getting that here in the US. Unfortunately, they don&#8217;t have any plans to roll out LTE network &#8211; for that matter, very few European operators will roll out LTE aggressively like the US counterparts. Without these aggressive carriers, I don&#8217;t see LTE pricing coming down a lot in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fitchard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-994629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Fitchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Lukas!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lukas!</p>
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		<title>By: Lukas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-994621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lukas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you, Kevin.  It&#039;s only a matter of time.

Btw - keep up the awesome work, I love reading your  posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Kevin.  It&#8217;s only a matter of time.</p>
<p>Btw &#8211; keep up the awesome work, I love reading your  posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fitchard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/12/what-the-lte-iphone-5-means-for-consumers/#comment-993839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Fitchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure I see your point, Trip1ex, Of course, I&#039;m talking about the per-GB cost of mobile data going down, and I say so in the post. You&#039;re right the amount people pay each month will probably stay the same because they&#039;re adjusting their usage to what they can afford, but that&#039;s hardly a bad thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I see your point, Trip1ex, Of course, I&#8217;m talking about the per-GB cost of mobile data going down, and I say so in the post. You&#8217;re right the amount people pay each month will probably stay the same because they&#8217;re adjusting their usage to what they can afford, but that&#8217;s hardly a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: trip1ex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trip1ex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People will just download more stuff on their phones which means your data plan won&#039;t get any cheaper in the long run.

Here&#039;s your rule of thumb for energy efficiency.  The more efficient sht is the more we use it.

Got a Prius?  Drive it twice as much as you drove your old car because your cost per mile for gas is so much cheaper.

Got compact fluorescent lightbulbs?  Don&#039;t bother turning them off when you leave a room because they are so efficient.  Net result is you leave them on 5x as long as you did when you had incadescent bulbs.

Got LTE?  Now you Facetime in HD while sitting on a bench in Central park.    and send your deep sea fishing trip video to your Mom before you get off the boat.  And you think nothing of watching the big game on ESPN3 while waiting for your kid to warm up with his team at the local soccer field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People will just download more stuff on their phones which means your data plan won&#8217;t get any cheaper in the long run.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your rule of thumb for energy efficiency.  The more efficient sht is the more we use it.</p>
<p>Got a Prius?  Drive it twice as much as you drove your old car because your cost per mile for gas is so much cheaper.</p>
<p>Got compact fluorescent lightbulbs?  Don&#8217;t bother turning them off when you leave a room because they are so efficient.  Net result is you leave them on 5x as long as you did when you had incadescent bulbs.</p>
<p>Got LTE?  Now you Facetime in HD while sitting on a bench in Central park.    and send your deep sea fishing trip video to your Mom before you get off the boat.  And you think nothing of watching the big game on ESPN3 while waiting for your kid to warm up with his team at the local soccer field.</p>
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