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	<title>Comments on: The Tale of Two Clouds – What is the future of cloud adoption in IT?</title>
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		<title>By: natishalom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/01/the-tale-of-two-clouds-what-is-the-future-of-cloud-adoption-in-it/#comment-969250</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natishalom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 14:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many use the term private cloud to point to the old (and pretty clueless) way of running a data center. 
IMO private cloud, as the name suggests, represents a business need to maintain high degree of privacy and control of its data and resources by ensuring that they are not shared with others.  The resources may very well be hosted somewhere else but the key is that they remain private. These needs will never cease to exist in the same way that we have public and private transportation, or the option to lease and rent a car, and will continue to have.  The old way of running data centers must change and is changing to meet the cost and agility demand of the business, and is adopting many of the features of public cloud. With that the cost margin differences between private and public clouds becomes less signficant and for some scenarios has proven to be even cheaper (assuming that you can design for a particular work load and use case) in a private cloud sceanrio. All this makes the cost argument even less significant a factor for choosing between the two models.

I&#039;ve posted the full details behind this argument here:

http://natishalom.typepad.com/nati_shaloms_blog/2011/11/public-vs-priavate-clouds-again-its-not-about-the-cost.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many use the term private cloud to point to the old (and pretty clueless) way of running a data center.<br />
IMO private cloud, as the name suggests, represents a business need to maintain high degree of privacy and control of its data and resources by ensuring that they are not shared with others.  The resources may very well be hosted somewhere else but the key is that they remain private. These needs will never cease to exist in the same way that we have public and private transportation, or the option to lease and rent a car, and will continue to have.  The old way of running data centers must change and is changing to meet the cost and agility demand of the business, and is adopting many of the features of public cloud. With that the cost margin differences between private and public clouds becomes less signficant and for some scenarios has proven to be even cheaper (assuming that you can design for a particular work load and use case) in a private cloud sceanrio. All this makes the cost argument even less significant a factor for choosing between the two models.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted the full details behind this argument here:</p>
<p><a href="http://natishalom.typepad.com/nati_shaloms_blog/2011/11/public-vs-priavate-clouds-again-its-not-about-the-cost.html" rel="nofollow">http://natishalom.typepad.com/nati_shaloms_blog/2011/11/public-vs-priavate-clouds-again-its-not-about-the-cost.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Mytton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/01/the-tale-of-two-clouds-what-is-the-future-of-cloud-adoption-in-it/#comment-968535</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Mytton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s much more likely we&#039;ll see new applications developed on public cloud platforms than the migration of legacy systems. These projects don&#039;t have any of the legacy baggage and can be designed with the cloud infrastructure in mind. It&#039;s more appropriate for legacy systems to be moved off old internal hardware onto private clouds because they can easily be mapped directly to them with the differences being below the OS layer so the application never even needs to know it&#039;s on a shiny new cloud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s much more likely we&#8217;ll see new applications developed on public cloud platforms than the migration of legacy systems. These projects don&#8217;t have any of the legacy baggage and can be designed with the cloud infrastructure in mind. It&#8217;s more appropriate for legacy systems to be moved off old internal hardware onto private clouds because they can easily be mapped directly to them with the differences being below the OS layer so the application never even needs to know it&#8217;s on a shiny new cloud.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://redpaintblog.com/2012/09/02/438/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Paint Blog&lt;/a&gt; and commented: 
Very nice article. Gave me all the ammo I need when my boss comes to get my take on this. Anti-risk and cautious defines us as a firm. Good read. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://redpaintblog.com/2012/09/02/438/" rel="nofollow">Red Paint Blog</a> and commented:<br />
Very nice article. Gave me all the ammo I need when my boss comes to get my take on this. Anti-risk and cautious defines us as a firm. Good read. </p>
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		<title>By: feasypeasy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[feasypeasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How bout a standard cloud computing platform? That would mean companies would have to work together which...is maybe not conducive to specific company interests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How bout a standard cloud computing platform? That would mean companies would have to work together which&#8230;is maybe not conducive to specific company interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Townsend</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/01/the-tale-of-two-clouds-what-is-the-future-of-cloud-adoption-in-it/#comment-965610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Townsend]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 18:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The above characteristics lend themselves to allowing a company to go whole hog into a new IT strategy and to accept risks where more established enterprises can’t or won’t. Generally smaller companies and younger companies will take this risk.&quot;

This is an area I think companies are most surprised at when looking to migrate existing services to the cloud.  Cloud computing is a shift in the way services are delivered AND built.  You aren&#039;t just going to migrate your Lotus Notes server instance to the cloud and save money or become more efficient.  You have to redesign your groupware. 

I had similar thoughts here. 

http://virtualizedgeek.com/2012/08/08/does-the-enterprise-have-a-use-for-openstack-and-iaas/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The above characteristics lend themselves to allowing a company to go whole hog into a new IT strategy and to accept risks where more established enterprises can’t or won’t. Generally smaller companies and younger companies will take this risk.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is an area I think companies are most surprised at when looking to migrate existing services to the cloud.  Cloud computing is a shift in the way services are delivered AND built.  You aren&#8217;t just going to migrate your Lotus Notes server instance to the cloud and save money or become more efficient.  You have to redesign your groupware. </p>
<p>I had similar thoughts here. </p>
<p><a href="http://virtualizedgeek.com/2012/08/08/does-the-enterprise-have-a-use-for-openstack-and-iaas/" rel="nofollow">http://virtualizedgeek.com/2012/08/08/does-the-enterprise-have-a-use-for-openstack-and-iaas/</a></p>
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