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	<title>Comments on: Dell &amp; HP together on a long road to nowhere</title>
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		<title>By: jhesr</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-1192516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jhesr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The entire PC division of HP brings in only 15% of their profits. As a shareholder of HPQ I could care less about PCs, especially consumer PCs which have horrible margins.

The vast majority of HP&#039;s profits come from enterprise customers. The ipad is not HP&#039;s problem, it is Microsoft&#039;s problem. HP&#039;s main business is in the data center (hardware, software, and services), not consumer and/or byod client devices like the ipad. 

Frankly I wish Apotheker had been successful with the PC spin off. Nobody would buy it, but it could have been spun off to shareholders. I know I would have dumped my shares in it asap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire PC division of HP brings in only 15% of their profits. As a shareholder of HPQ I could care less about PCs, especially consumer PCs which have horrible margins.</p>
<p>The vast majority of HP&#8217;s profits come from enterprise customers. The ipad is not HP&#8217;s problem, it is Microsoft&#8217;s problem. HP&#8217;s main business is in the data center (hardware, software, and services), not consumer and/or byod client devices like the ipad. </p>
<p>Frankly I wish Apotheker had been successful with the PC spin off. Nobody would buy it, but it could have been spun off to shareholders. I know I would have dumped my shares in it asap.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabari H. - Brown</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-994040</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jabari H. - Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t fully agree on Lenovo offering computers cheaper than Dell and HP. I purchased my Lenovo Thinkpad in 2007 and it was about as much as a MacBook. However it still works perfectly and I&#039;ve only changed a hard drive and put in more RAM. Since that time, I have known people who have gone through multiple Dells, HPs, and Asus. At some point Dell and HP just started making crappy computers and having awful customer service.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t fully agree on Lenovo offering computers cheaper than Dell and HP. I purchased my Lenovo Thinkpad in 2007 and it was about as much as a MacBook. However it still works perfectly and I&#8217;ve only changed a hard drive and put in more RAM. Since that time, I have known people who have gone through multiple Dells, HPs, and Asus. At some point Dell and HP just started making crappy computers and having awful customer service.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mahoney</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-983869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mahoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His post was fully buzzword-compliant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His post was fully buzzword-compliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Payne</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-982588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Payne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL @ comb-over]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ comb-over</p>
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		<title>By: gslusher</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-981999</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gslusher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 05:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check Simon Sinek&#039;s TED talk--one of the most-watched, ever, or his book. As he says, people don&#039;t buy what you do, they buy WHY you do it. Apple sells based on why--Sinek says it&#039;s to challenge the status quo in everything they do. Christensen would call Apple a &quot;serial disruptor.&quot; HP used to have that sort of passion, back in the days when no lab was complete without HP test equipment, the very best one coud get. Dell, today, just makes computers by the boatload. So what? Who really cares? Sure, they&#039;ll get business from enterprise customers, who want that very fast service, which is as close to a &quot;vision&quot; as Dell gets. For consumers, though, Dell = HP =Lenovo = Acer = ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check Simon Sinek&#8217;s TED talk&#8211;one of the most-watched, ever, or his book. As he says, people don&#8217;t buy what you do, they buy WHY you do it. Apple sells based on why&#8211;Sinek says it&#8217;s to challenge the status quo in everything they do. Christensen would call Apple a &#8220;serial disruptor.&#8221; HP used to have that sort of passion, back in the days when no lab was complete without HP test equipment, the very best one coud get. Dell, today, just makes computers by the boatload. So what? Who really cares? Sure, they&#8217;ll get business from enterprise customers, who want that very fast service, which is as close to a &#8220;vision&#8221; as Dell gets. For consumers, though, Dell = HP =Lenovo = Acer = &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-981875</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another sign of desperation from Dell is that they are now competing with their own partners.  In some cases they have even stolen clients from their partners.  I know that Dell is now in to consulting doing MS, Citrix, VMWare and god knows what else.    Pathetic]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another sign of desperation from Dell is that they are now competing with their own partners.  In some cases they have even stolen clients from their partners.  I know that Dell is now in to consulting doing MS, Citrix, VMWare and god knows what else.    Pathetic</p>
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		<title>By: Ted T.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-981838</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;On the desktop side, many customers want easy access, that’s why it has a thumbscrew&quot;

Seriously?  May I suggest purchasing a Mac Pro to see how a case can be given easy access to its components without the aide of thumbscrews?  Or if the newly impoverished Dell can&#039;t afford one, go to eBay and get a PowerMac G4 or heck, even a blue &amp; white PowerMac G3 (those 1999 machines must be really cheap by now) and see the elegant pull a lever and the case pops open solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On the desktop side, many customers want easy access, that’s why it has a thumbscrew&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously?  May I suggest purchasing a Mac Pro to see how a case can be given easy access to its components without the aide of thumbscrews?  Or if the newly impoverished Dell can&#8217;t afford one, go to eBay and get a PowerMac G4 or heck, even a blue &amp; white PowerMac G3 (those 1999 machines must be really cheap by now) and see the elegant pull a lever and the case pops open solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Memory</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doctor Memory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tragedy here is that HP had an excellent chance to make itself into a real player in the mobile market with the Palm acquisition, but Apotheker screwed that pooch so hard that PETA is stil picketing his house.

Everything you need to know about how Dell is run as a company can be learned by looking into the details of one of their smaller acquisitions: the buyout of MessageOne back in 2009.  For better or worse, their Board is completely decorative, and M. Dell is gonna go down with his hand on the tiller.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tragedy here is that HP had an excellent chance to make itself into a real player in the mobile market with the Palm acquisition, but Apotheker screwed that pooch so hard that PETA is stil picketing his house.</p>
<p>Everything you need to know about how Dell is run as a company can be learned by looking into the details of one of their smaller acquisitions: the buyout of MessageOne back in 2009.  For better or worse, their Board is completely decorative, and M. Dell is gonna go down with his hand on the tiller.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Richards</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-981614</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andre Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HP did open source WebOS and I still think it stands a good chance of succeeding, assuming Meg Twitman has any clue about how to manage and promote such a thing. Imagine the promise of an open source OS of that quality. In good hands, it could easily fulfill the promise that Android has so spectacularly failed to deliver. I know many, many people who would jump ship from Android or iOS to be a part of something like that and HP would be able to ride that without having to dump a significant amount of resources into it.

We&#039;ll see, but sadly, I&#039;m not betting on HP having any clue about doing that right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP did open source WebOS and I still think it stands a good chance of succeeding, assuming Meg Twitman has any clue about how to manage and promote such a thing. Imagine the promise of an open source OS of that quality. In good hands, it could easily fulfill the promise that Android has so spectacularly failed to deliver. I know many, many people who would jump ship from Android or iOS to be a part of something like that and HP would be able to ride that without having to dump a significant amount of resources into it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see, but sadly, I&#8217;m not betting on HP having any clue about doing that right.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Richards</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/23/dell-hp-together-on-a-long-road-to-nowhere/#comment-981606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andre Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve said it many times before and I&#039;ll say it again: Michael Dell is the biggest one-hit wonder the tech world has ever seen. I&#039;m honestly not saying that to mock him or insult him. I admire the man and what he accomplished. And that one big hit he had in the 90s was a killer. However, he and his company have coasted on fumes for far too many years now and it&#039;s pretty clear that they don&#039;t know much of anything beyond making cheap Windows PCs--something the rest of the world has lost interest in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it many times before and I&#8217;ll say it again: Michael Dell is the biggest one-hit wonder the tech world has ever seen. I&#8217;m honestly not saying that to mock him or insult him. I admire the man and what he accomplished. And that one big hit he had in the 90s was a killer. However, he and his company have coasted on fumes for far too many years now and it&#8217;s pretty clear that they don&#8217;t know much of anything beyond making cheap Windows PCs&#8211;something the rest of the world has lost interest in.</p>
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