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	<title>Comments on: Revel Systems looks to outfit the iGrocery store</title>
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		<title>By: maddie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/20/revel-systems-looks-to-outfit-the-igrocery-store/#comment-1178540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i do not have anything to say]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do not have anything to say</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Jones</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/20/revel-systems-looks-to-outfit-the-igrocery-store/#comment-1024212</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess you really don&#039;t understand the business and you clearly don&#039;t understand Revel!  First i wonder what kind of person comes up with these false numbers?   look on their website support is only 40 dollar a month?

http://st.revelsystems.com/products/annual-phone-support

This is the real page  so not sure where you are coming up with your imaginary numbers.  Revel Rocks and you better start understanding this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you really don&#8217;t understand the business and you clearly don&#8217;t understand Revel!  First i wonder what kind of person comes up with these false numbers?   look on their website support is only 40 dollar a month?</p>
<p><a href="http://st.revelsystems.com/products/annual-phone-support" rel="nofollow">http://st.revelsystems.com/products/annual-phone-support</a></p>
<p>This is the real page  so not sure where you are coming up with your imaginary numbers.  Revel Rocks and you better start understanding this!</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/20/revel-systems-looks-to-outfit-the-igrocery-store/#comment-986590</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Mario. My figures were a tad off in the comment above. But I still think this type of system ends up looking cheaper in the beginning and costs more over the long-term. Seeing as how Revel has only been in business for slightly over 2 years, I would doubt anyone has seen these long-term costs actually leave their pockets yet.

Let me update my figures with costs from their website and try to show the total cost of a one lane setup and eventually show that cost over 5 years.

For a grocery system (1 terminal) via the information on their website.

Super Market and Grocery POS Hardware Bundle - $5,510

iPad POS Super Market Software - $2000

Install - $250 (Geek squad install)

http://st.revelsystems.com/collections/grocery-pos-convenience-store-bundel

Now let&#039;s say we want more than just the free email only support listed on their website and choose to have 24/7 phone support. According to their website that is an annual charge of $2000.

http://store.revelsystems.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&amp;category_id=6

So one a one lane setup using the grocery pos hardware bundle and grocery software license for one iPad plus installation and 1 year of 24/7 phone support comes out to be $9760.

So to get the cost of a one lane setup over the course of 5 years I took $9760 (the cost of hardware, software, install and phone support for one year) and added 4 years of 24/7 support at a cost of $2000 per year. This comes out to $8000 in phone support over 4 years. So our end figure for 5 years would be $9760 + $8000 = $17760

I just don&#039;t see the long term savings. In fact it really appears to end up costing more. Most groceries don&#039;t have just one lane. 

So a 4 lane setup (after 5 years of support) is around $47,800? How is that cheaper than other traditional point of sale systems?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Mario. My figures were a tad off in the comment above. But I still think this type of system ends up looking cheaper in the beginning and costs more over the long-term. Seeing as how Revel has only been in business for slightly over 2 years, I would doubt anyone has seen these long-term costs actually leave their pockets yet.</p>
<p>Let me update my figures with costs from their website and try to show the total cost of a one lane setup and eventually show that cost over 5 years.</p>
<p>For a grocery system (1 terminal) via the information on their website.</p>
<p>Super Market and Grocery POS Hardware Bundle &#8211; $5,510</p>
<p>iPad POS Super Market Software &#8211; $2000</p>
<p>Install &#8211; $250 (Geek squad install)</p>
<p><a href="http://st.revelsystems.com/collections/grocery-pos-convenience-store-bundel" rel="nofollow">http://st.revelsystems.com/collections/grocery-pos-convenience-store-bundel</a></p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s say we want more than just the free email only support listed on their website and choose to have 24/7 phone support. According to their website that is an annual charge of $2000.</p>
<p><a href="http://store.revelsystems.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&#038;category_id=6" rel="nofollow">http://store.revelsystems.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&#038;category_id=6</a></p>
<p>So one a one lane setup using the grocery pos hardware bundle and grocery software license for one iPad plus installation and 1 year of 24/7 phone support comes out to be $9760.</p>
<p>So to get the cost of a one lane setup over the course of 5 years I took $9760 (the cost of hardware, software, install and phone support for one year) and added 4 years of 24/7 support at a cost of $2000 per year. This comes out to $8000 in phone support over 4 years. So our end figure for 5 years would be $9760 + $8000 = $17760</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see the long term savings. In fact it really appears to end up costing more. Most groceries don&#8217;t have just one lane. </p>
<p>So a 4 lane setup (after 5 years of support) is around $47,800? How is that cheaper than other traditional point of sale systems?</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/20/revel-systems-looks-to-outfit-the-igrocery-store/#comment-986482</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got the support fee information from their website.

http://store.revelsystems.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&amp;category_id=6]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got the support fee information from their website.</p>
<p><a href="http://store.revelsystems.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&#038;category_id=6" rel="nofollow">http://store.revelsystems.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&#038;category_id=6</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/20/revel-systems-looks-to-outfit-the-igrocery-store/#comment-985320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where do you learn your math at?  I have saved thousands of dollars using the Revel POS system.   Oh and i don&#039;t know where you get your fees from?  as their support only costs me 40 dollar a month in all fairness you need to get the correct information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you learn your math at?  I have saved thousands of dollars using the Revel POS system.   Oh and i don&#8217;t know where you get your fees from?  as their support only costs me 40 dollar a month in all fairness you need to get the correct information.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/20/revel-systems-looks-to-outfit-the-igrocery-store/#comment-982777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article!

However, in all fairness I think it would be good to inform readers of the cost of the hardware, $5510 per lane, and the service contract fees of $1000 per year for phone support during business hours only. If you want 24/7 support you will need to pay $2000 per year.

Hardware included, it looks as if the total cost for a lane (and 1 year of 24/7 support) is approximately $9,200. Extrapolate that over 5 years and you are looking at approximately $22,000 per lane. Not to mention install/training fees.

This does not seem so far off from traditional point of sale setups that provide, from what I can tell, a greater selection of features, peripherals and warehouse integration modules. 

This iPad stuff actually looks to cost a whole lot more over the long-term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
<p>However, in all fairness I think it would be good to inform readers of the cost of the hardware, $5510 per lane, and the service contract fees of $1000 per year for phone support during business hours only. If you want 24/7 support you will need to pay $2000 per year.</p>
<p>Hardware included, it looks as if the total cost for a lane (and 1 year of 24/7 support) is approximately $9,200. Extrapolate that over 5 years and you are looking at approximately $22,000 per lane. Not to mention install/training fees.</p>
<p>This does not seem so far off from traditional point of sale setups that provide, from what I can tell, a greater selection of features, peripherals and warehouse integration modules. </p>
<p>This iPad stuff actually looks to cost a whole lot more over the long-term.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Johnson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/08/20/revel-systems-looks-to-outfit-the-igrocery-store/#comment-922068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article Erica!   I have heard a lot about this company glad you are following them now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Erica!   I have heard a lot about this company glad you are following them now.</p>
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