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	<title>Comments on: Media outsourcing and Journatic: Hate the player, not the game</title>
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		<title>By: Gary Warner</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/07/18/media-outsourcing-and-journatic-hate-the-player-not-the-game/#comment-866079</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Warner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 02:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So far the game is the player. You get what you pay for, especially when you are paying some guy a boatload to honcho sub-minimum, piecework and advertorial content. It&#039;s already a failed model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far the game is the player. You get what you pay for, especially when you are paying some guy a boatload to honcho sub-minimum, piecework and advertorial content. It&#8217;s already a failed model.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Karr</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/07/18/media-outsourcing-and-journatic-hate-the-player-not-the-game/#comment-865829</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Karr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, but their &quot;core competitive advantage&quot; has always been local news. It&#039;s one thing to let AP cover Moscow because your daily couldn&#039;t afford setting up a bureau there. Quite another to put local journalists out of work so that people 3,000 miles away -- in Manila it seems -- can cover your community. 

By abandoning this core competency, and laying off local journalists in the process, local papers are writing their own obituaries... Or will they have some fake reporter abroad do that, too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but their &#8220;core competitive advantage&#8221; has always been local news. It&#8217;s one thing to let AP cover Moscow because your daily couldn&#8217;t afford setting up a bureau there. Quite another to put local journalists out of work so that people 3,000 miles away &#8212; in Manila it seems &#8212; can cover your community. </p>
<p>By abandoning this core competency, and laying off local journalists in the process, local papers are writing their own obituaries&#8230; Or will they have some fake reporter abroad do that, too?</p>
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		<title>By: jrhmobile</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/07/18/media-outsourcing-and-journatic-hate-the-player-not-the-game/#comment-865772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jrhmobile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You say that like &quot;stringent quality checks&quot; of Journatic&#039;s content are ever actually going to happen.

Journatic&#039;s entire business plan is based on the concept that remote outsourcing of writers from lowest-cost foreign countries will offer a substitute for local reporters with real contact with sources in the community at the lowest possible cost. Journatic&#039;s &quot;automatic&quot; actions not only disprove that such quality checks could happen, they actually demonstrate clearly that the company&#039;s culture ensures that they will NEVER happen.

Bogus, Anglicized bylines to hide the fact that reporters and initial copy edits are actually happening in the Philippines. Manufactured quotes to fill in when local quotes of &quot;local sources&quot; when contact through hidden overseas long-distance phone patches, cannot be obtained. 

When you pay the lowest possible cost for talent that is disconnected from the local market and will never have to answer to local residents, you get shoddy results. Admittedly at the lowest possible cost, but shoddy nonetheless. Journatic actively sets itself up to hide its own truth in its business processes, so what makes anyone think it has any interest in reporting truths for its local newspaper clients? 

And to the commenter above who related Journatic as an equivalent to legitimate wire services like the AP, Reuters and Agence France-Presse, there is very little, if any, similarity. Those wire services are designed to bring news from around the world to local newspapers. That&#039;s an entirely different thing than finding the lowest-cost writers from anywhere in the world to bring local news to readers from remote locations with no access to the local community. Journatic&#039;s business model is NOTHING like a legitimate wire service. It&#039;s disingenuous, and perhaps self-serving, for you to assert that it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say that like &#8220;stringent quality checks&#8221; of Journatic&#8217;s content are ever actually going to happen.</p>
<p>Journatic&#8217;s entire business plan is based on the concept that remote outsourcing of writers from lowest-cost foreign countries will offer a substitute for local reporters with real contact with sources in the community at the lowest possible cost. Journatic&#8217;s &#8220;automatic&#8221; actions not only disprove that such quality checks could happen, they actually demonstrate clearly that the company&#8217;s culture ensures that they will NEVER happen.</p>
<p>Bogus, Anglicized bylines to hide the fact that reporters and initial copy edits are actually happening in the Philippines. Manufactured quotes to fill in when local quotes of &#8220;local sources&#8221; when contact through hidden overseas long-distance phone patches, cannot be obtained. </p>
<p>When you pay the lowest possible cost for talent that is disconnected from the local market and will never have to answer to local residents, you get shoddy results. Admittedly at the lowest possible cost, but shoddy nonetheless. Journatic actively sets itself up to hide its own truth in its business processes, so what makes anyone think it has any interest in reporting truths for its local newspaper clients? </p>
<p>And to the commenter above who related Journatic as an equivalent to legitimate wire services like the AP, Reuters and Agence France-Presse, there is very little, if any, similarity. Those wire services are designed to bring news from around the world to local newspapers. That&#8217;s an entirely different thing than finding the lowest-cost writers from anywhere in the world to bring local news to readers from remote locations with no access to the local community. Journatic&#8217;s business model is NOTHING like a legitimate wire service. It&#8217;s disingenuous, and perhaps self-serving, for you to assert that it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Shenoy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/07/18/media-outsourcing-and-journatic-hate-the-player-not-the-game/#comment-865693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vivek Shenoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have followed the publishing and its outsourcing industry for quite a few years, and have always maintained that among all the segments that constitute print publishing, newspapers always have spent considerably more on procuring content from external sources - be it freelance journalists, agencies such as AP, Reuters, etc. In fact I would go to the extent of saying that newspapers are heavy syndicators of content whose inherent value lies in editorial opinion and prioritizing what is news. Outsourcing in the newspapers context is not cost driven, but very much a strategic need - and it if its strategic, its not outsourcing right? Its partnering. 

The core advantage newspapers have is telling readers what is important (and what isn&#039;t) - an important value addition, given the rate at which consumers are getting exposed to news and content in general. In this scenario, its important that newspapers continue to focus on their core (like Shafqat mentions) and look at partnering for others. Cost is a factor (which will invariably get addressed) but it will bring a newspaper publisher much needed optimization and &#039;leanness&#039; in operations. 

Specifically to Journatic - ensuring standards is an operational issue and can be overcome. As their service matures, such issues can be addressed through stringent checks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have followed the publishing and its outsourcing industry for quite a few years, and have always maintained that among all the segments that constitute print publishing, newspapers always have spent considerably more on procuring content from external sources &#8211; be it freelance journalists, agencies such as AP, Reuters, etc. In fact I would go to the extent of saying that newspapers are heavy syndicators of content whose inherent value lies in editorial opinion and prioritizing what is news. Outsourcing in the newspapers context is not cost driven, but very much a strategic need &#8211; and it if its strategic, its not outsourcing right? Its partnering. </p>
<p>The core advantage newspapers have is telling readers what is important (and what isn&#8217;t) &#8211; an important value addition, given the rate at which consumers are getting exposed to news and content in general. In this scenario, its important that newspapers continue to focus on their core (like Shafqat mentions) and look at partnering for others. Cost is a factor (which will invariably get addressed) but it will bring a newspaper publisher much needed optimization and &#8216;leanness&#8217; in operations. </p>
<p>Specifically to Journatic &#8211; ensuring standards is an operational issue and can be overcome. As their service matures, such issues can be addressed through stringent checks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/07/18/media-outsourcing-and-journatic-hate-the-player-not-the-game/#comment-865671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew Ingram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Shafqat -- good point. Journatic is on the same spectrum as Associated Press and others, even though it may seem different. Appreciate the comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Shafqat &#8212; good point. Journatic is on the same spectrum as Associated Press and others, even though it may seem different. Appreciate the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Shafqat Islam</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/07/18/media-outsourcing-and-journatic-hate-the-player-not-the-game/#comment-865656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shafqat Islam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 02:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Outsourcing content has always been part of the game - that&#039;s the need filled by the Associated Press, Reuters, AFP and other newswires. Outsourcing content is not going away. In fact, it will only become more important, allowing news organizations to focus on their core competitive advantage (which is never &quot;everything&quot;). In fact, we&#039;ve built an entire business around it, and it&#039;s getting to be a substantial size and growing fast - proof that there is not only demand, but that the demand is accelerating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsourcing content has always been part of the game &#8211; that&#8217;s the need filled by the Associated Press, Reuters, AFP and other newswires. Outsourcing content is not going away. In fact, it will only become more important, allowing news organizations to focus on their core competitive advantage (which is never &#8220;everything&#8221;). In fact, we&#8217;ve built an entire business around it, and it&#8217;s getting to be a substantial size and growing fast &#8211; proof that there is not only demand, but that the demand is accelerating.</p>
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