Comments on: City of SF won’t buy Macs without EPEAT certification

By: watch2x

watch2x — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:39:57 +0000

Apple doesn’t build busses or trains, so your point is?

By: Rubinn Jeffries

Rubinn Jeffries — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 06:09:34 +0000

The city of San Francisco informed it’s employee’s that Macintosh was off the equipment list… last March! Their latest statement regarding EPEAT is just opportunistic justification of that unpopular decision.

By: caj

caj — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:25:06 +0000

@Jac

Please give me an example of that mythical comparable Windows PC. I take only exact model number.
Without that i need to consider your rant as another lie under this article.

By: caj

caj — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:22:36 +0000

@Jac
Another damn lie?

You are free to return old laptop to Apple store and it will be recycle by their partner according to highest environmental standards. Yes, it includes rMBP.

By: Caj

Caj — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:20:09 +0000

@Jac
Damn lie. Apple’s computer market share is US is 12% today. I don’t know current number for laptop’s share, but last time it was over 20%.

By: Jac

Jac — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:54:53 +0000

Apple doesn’t build busses or trains, so your point is? If you are trying to say Apple has great battery life or light weight you are very wrong on both counts. Not sure how being 0.1 inches thinner is such a huge advantage for a Macbook when you have 0.5 lbs extra weight and 2 hours less battery than a comparable Windows PC.

By: Jac

Jac — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:52:12 +0000

EPEAT is about being able upgrade a laptop for longevity as well as recycle it. Neither are possible for the new Macbook. Its a single unit disposable laptop. Thinner is the only thing Macbooks have ever had goign for them, if you think they are in any way innovative, you need to start reading something other than Apple ads and CNet.

By: Jac

Jac — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:50:02 +0000

Its easy to argue that Apple is doing a poor job of selling laptops, in the last 4 years their market share in the US has dropped from an all time high of almost 10% of laptops sold, to less than 5%. Macbooks are irrelevant.

By: John Molloy

John Molloy — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:33:16 +0000

Yeah, our landfills. How much Apple stuff gets thrown in landfills?

Oh, and Apple’s response?

From “The Loop”:

Apple on Tuesday responded to concerns that it asked to have its products removed from EPEAT, the U.S. government’s list of environmentally friendly products.

“Apple takes a comprehensive approach to measuring our environmental impact and all of our products meet the strictest energy efficiency standards backed by the US government, Energy Star 5.2,” Apple representative Kristin Huguet, told The Loop. “We also lead the industry by reporting each product’s greenhouse gas emissions on our website, and Apple products are superior in other important environmental areas not measured by EPEAT, such as removal of toxic materials.”

It’s important to note that in addition to not measuring toxins and other environmental areas, EPEAT also doesn’t measure smartphones or tablets. Clearly these are two areas that are vitally important for Apple and not covered by EPEAT.

Companies like Dell have 171 products listed on EPEAT, but yet if you look on Dell’s Web site, none of their computers are even Energy Star Compliant.

By its own admission, the EPEAT certifications are old.

“Part of it is expanding EPEAT’s global reach through the multiple certification [process]; as well as moving into new, additional products; as well as updating the EPEAT [certifications], because they’re a little long in the tooth. [Each of those] is a huge project on its own,” Christine Ervin, an EPEAT board member told GreenBiz in March.

The hubbub over Apple pulling out of EPEAT is interesting because the products that were listed as gold products by the environmental organization are the same ones Apple is currently selling.

Apple has done more than any other technology company in recent memory to be environmentally friendly. What’s more, Apple publishes everything that makes up its carbon footprint on its Web site. Again, this is something EPEAT doesn’t measure.

By: yousuf

yousuf — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:08:05 +0000

i m think majority thinking is different
no one still in market to take place of apple