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	<title>Comments on: Nokia&#8217;s secret Linux team is looking for refuge</title>
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		<title>By: gk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-867209</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think they should join up with Jolla]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should join up with Jolla</p>
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		<title>By: ethouris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-862431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ethouris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 07:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam P: Samsung didn&#039;t make it with Linux-based OS; the only visible result of their work is Tizen, which is Meego-based (and there&#039;s no phone on the market that is using it). I was working for a Linux-based system in Samsung a year ago, and it wasn&#039;t even anything related to Meego (it was their own LiMo project, based on Debian, but it was already EFL the most important GUI library). Probably Tizen is a system partially completed from Meego and LiMo. Anyway, they didn&#039;t succeed in making a Linux-based OS and selling any phone with this system.

Bada is a different story, it&#039;s completely unrelated to Linux. It&#039;s a derivative of their own system solution, previously known as SHP. And Android, yes, is a Linux-kernel-based system, but Samsung is doing nothing more than just a customization; it&#039;s not their product. And actually this system makes the biggest money for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam P: Samsung didn&#8217;t make it with Linux-based OS; the only visible result of their work is Tizen, which is Meego-based (and there&#8217;s no phone on the market that is using it). I was working for a Linux-based system in Samsung a year ago, and it wasn&#8217;t even anything related to Meego (it was their own LiMo project, based on Debian, but it was already EFL the most important GUI library). Probably Tizen is a system partially completed from Meego and LiMo. Anyway, they didn&#8217;t succeed in making a Linux-based OS and selling any phone with this system.</p>
<p>Bada is a different story, it&#8217;s completely unrelated to Linux. It&#8217;s a derivative of their own system solution, previously known as SHP. And Android, yes, is a Linux-kernel-based system, but Samsung is doing nothing more than just a customization; it&#8217;s not their product. And actually this system makes the biggest money for them.</p>
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		<title>By: silpol</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-861864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silpol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 17:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and now that talent found escape http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/7/3143099/jolla-meego-startup-ex-nokia-employees]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and now that talent found escape <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/7/3143099/jolla-meego-startup-ex-nokia-employees" rel="nofollow">http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/7/3143099/jolla-meego-startup-ex-nokia-employees</a></p>
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		<title>By: Flaburgan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-860700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flaburgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 09:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about Mozilla and the B2G project ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Mozilla and the B2G project ?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam P</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-859238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 03:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Linux kernel is GPL, but that has no bearing on userland. Likely most of userland is also open source in some way, but newly and specifically developed userland code does not have to be open.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Linux kernel is GPL, but that has no bearing on userland. Likely most of userland is also open source in some way, but newly and specifically developed userland code does not have to be open.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam P</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-859237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 03:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True, but the failure in leadership might have been not replacing some/all of the technical staff...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, but the failure in leadership might have been not replacing some/all of the technical staff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam P</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-859236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 02:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ethouris: Samsung already has a Linux-based smartphone OS, Bada (well, actually two, since Android is Linux-based...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ethouris: Samsung already has a Linux-based smartphone OS, Bada (well, actually two, since Android is Linux-based&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Frägel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-858544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frägel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they developed a Linux-based &quot;lightweight&quot; mobile phone OS, that&#039;s great news. I hope they remember that they are legally required to publish what they have done, or they are in breach of the license for Linux (and Nokia is very keen on enforcement, so it&#039;s all fair if they follow their own rules)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they developed a Linux-based &#8220;lightweight&#8221; mobile phone OS, that&#8217;s great news. I hope they remember that they are legally required to publish what they have done, or they are in breach of the license for Linux (and Nokia is very keen on enforcement, so it&#8217;s all fair if they follow their own rules)</p>
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		<title>By: ethouris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-858540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ethouris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The big problem with Samsung is that they believe that the best engineers are working in Korea. This is not unlike many other Asian companies. Of course, they want talented people to join their teams and they can also hire them in any part of the world... as long as they want to move to Korea. As it happened for example with Carsten Haitzler (creator of EFL), whose name is now 하이츨러...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big problem with Samsung is that they believe that the best engineers are working in Korea. This is not unlike many other Asian companies. Of course, they want talented people to join their teams and they can also hire them in any part of the world&#8230; as long as they want to move to Korea. As it happened for example with Carsten Haitzler (creator of EFL), whose name is now 하이츨러&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ethouris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/nokias-secret-linux-team-is-looking-for-refuge/#comment-858537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ethouris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To compete with the three biggest will-be-soon mobile OSes, iOS, Android and Windows. Maybe Samsung&#039;s designs (not only for hardware) are little creative, but don&#039;t forget that Samsung Galaxy running Android has already outranked all others. I know Samsung well enough and because of that I have ambivalence about that - but on the other hand this is the only company that has money and may be interested with introducing its own operating system, especially if this means paying less for patent fees (to Microsoft, of course) and decrease the price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To compete with the three biggest will-be-soon mobile OSes, iOS, Android and Windows. Maybe Samsung&#8217;s designs (not only for hardware) are little creative, but don&#8217;t forget that Samsung Galaxy running Android has already outranked all others. I know Samsung well enough and because of that I have ambivalence about that &#8211; but on the other hand this is the only company that has money and may be interested with introducing its own operating system, especially if this means paying less for patent fees (to Microsoft, of course) and decrease the price.</p>
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