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	<title>Comments on: FaceTime over 3G? A bargain vs. carrier voice plans</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Mackey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-860809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Mackey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why I am mad at the carriers. They are robbing us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I am mad at the carriers. They are robbing us.</p>
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		<title>By: Kostas Papahatzis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-851063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kostas Papahatzis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May I kindly remind you that there is a limit to &#039;Unlimited&#039; too. US OpCos may have not introduced this yet, but in Europe, unlimited has a number in the terms and conditions of use. &quot;It is known as fair usage policy&quot;:

http://www.vodafone.co.uk/vodafone-uk/about-this-site/terms-and-conditions/products-and-services/mobile-broadband-fair-use-policy/index.htm

This little number that defines &#039;unlimited&#039; can change very easily, and you will be lucky if your OpCo sends you a text message when you are about to breach that number with your VoiP calls. I have seen monthly bills reaching 30,000 Euros over this....and had some pretty unpleasant conversations with furious clients, believe me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I kindly remind you that there is a limit to &#8216;Unlimited&#8217; too. US OpCos may have not introduced this yet, but in Europe, unlimited has a number in the terms and conditions of use. &#8220;It is known as fair usage policy&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vodafone.co.uk/vodafone-uk/about-this-site/terms-and-conditions/products-and-services/mobile-broadband-fair-use-policy/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vodafone.co.uk/vodafone-uk/about-this-site/terms-and-conditions/products-and-services/mobile-broadband-fair-use-policy/index.htm</a></p>
<p>This little number that defines &#8216;unlimited&#8217; can change very easily, and you will be lucky if your OpCo sends you a text message when you are about to breach that number with your VoiP calls. I have seen monthly bills reaching 30,000 Euros over this&#8230;.and had some pretty unpleasant conversations with furious clients, believe me!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-850918</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never mind me, I forgot about the messaging requirement for mobile to any mobile:

Included with Family Messaging Unlimited ($30/month) or Messaging Unlimited ($20/month) for individual

Available on $69.99 and higher FamilyTalk® rate plans and $39.99 and higher Nation individual rate plans

Source: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/plans/messaging-plans.jsp?source=ECNM0000000M2A00U&amp;fbid=t3cyX2vUrEV]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind me, I forgot about the messaging requirement for mobile to any mobile:</p>
<p>Included with Family Messaging Unlimited ($30/month) or Messaging Unlimited ($20/month) for individual</p>
<p>Available on $69.99 and higher FamilyTalk® rate plans and $39.99 and higher Nation individual rate plans</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/plans/messaging-plans.jsp?source=ECNM0000000M2A00U&#038;fbid=t3cyX2vUrEV" rel="nofollow">http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/plans/messaging-plans.jsp?source=ECNM0000000M2A00U&#038;fbid=t3cyX2vUrEV</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-850910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re calling AT&amp;T cell phones, voice is free.  And if you have the 700 minute family plan, you get unlimited mobile to any mobile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re calling AT&amp;T cell phones, voice is free.  And if you have the 700 minute family plan, you get unlimited mobile to any mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Camilli</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-850895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Camilli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given my experience with Skype voice calls on AT&amp;T&#039;s network, I think I&#039;d stick to their voice network vs. VoIP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given my experience with Skype voice calls on AT&amp;T&#8217;s network, I think I&#8217;d stick to their voice network vs. VoIP.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-850868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Users on android should check out an app called grooveip which does free calling from their google voice number to anywhere in the US. I think a meg is approximately 5 minutes iirc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Users on android should check out an app called grooveip which does free calling from their google voice number to anywhere in the US. I think a meg is approximately 5 minutes iirc</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fitchard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-850855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Fitchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Peter,

By introducing jitter into real-time app? I&#039;ve heard tell of operators considering it. Know any examples of where they have?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Peter,</p>
<p>By introducing jitter into real-time app? I&#8217;ve heard tell of operators considering it. Know any examples of where they have?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-850853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For as long as one needs a voice plan to have a data plan, carriers aren&#039;t worried. Plus, they can throttle anybody any time by simply randomly discarding offending packets until the service degrades. Piece of cake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For as long as one needs a voice plan to have a data plan, carriers aren&#8217;t worried. Plus, they can throttle anybody any time by simply randomly discarding offending packets until the service degrades. Piece of cake.</p>
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		<title>By: sometoast</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-850839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sometoast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rollover minutes? Those are the ones I keep getting &quot;about to expire&quot; notices for, because I never even use all my regular minutes, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rollover minutes? Those are the ones I keep getting &#8220;about to expire&#8221; notices for, because I never even use all my regular minutes, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Liotta</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/06/11/facetime-over-3g-a-bargain-vs-carrier-voice-plans/#comment-850836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Liotta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FaceTime with a phone number would really change the game if they could make it a seamless experience. The majority of phone calls are done and home and at business locations i.e. places with Wi-Fi where you don&#039;t have to worry about 3G.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FaceTime with a phone number would really change the game if they could make it a seamless experience. The majority of phone calls are done and home and at business locations i.e. places with Wi-Fi where you don&#8217;t have to worry about 3G.</p>
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