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		<title>By: don rua</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-854392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don rua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a consumer, if you don&#039;t want to pay an unnecessary 40%, you skip the paperboy and get a paper at convenience store for just the days you want it, or you read it free as provided on the tables at the local Donut shop. If you don&#039;t like the price at Walmart, you can get your magazines through other channels. Where else can a consumer get a digital magazine for their iPad? Technically, any company could set up the databases and ecommerce to deliver their iOS magazines from their own servers, so Apple is not out any cost of a store, but APPLE WON&#039;T LET THEM. Draconian, outdated for our times. Good for Apple to get a head start, try to crush Adobe and get a leg up on Google, but not the model that people and companies will want to support. Think on this, when there are thousands of your partners and clients that can&#039;t wait till there&#039;s an alternative to your closed system, you are on thin ice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a consumer, if you don&#8217;t want to pay an unnecessary 40%, you skip the paperboy and get a paper at convenience store for just the days you want it, or you read it free as provided on the tables at the local Donut shop. If you don&#8217;t like the price at Walmart, you can get your magazines through other channels. Where else can a consumer get a digital magazine for their iPad? Technically, any company could set up the databases and ecommerce to deliver their iOS magazines from their own servers, so Apple is not out any cost of a store, but APPLE WON&#8217;T LET THEM. Draconian, outdated for our times. Good for Apple to get a head start, try to crush Adobe and get a leg up on Google, but not the model that people and companies will want to support. Think on this, when there are thousands of your partners and clients that can&#8217;t wait till there&#8217;s an alternative to your closed system, you are on thin ice.</p>
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		<title>By: James Brocklehurst</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-853606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Brocklehurst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As other commenters have outlined, Jason Pontin&#039;s position is ill informed and flawed.

1. Apple&#039;s 30% may seem steep compared to the web, but this is an unfair comparison considering that it is very difficult to obtain any sort of reasonable revenue from the web. Consumers perceive web content as &#039;free&#039; whereas they are happy to pay for (iOS) apps, in their billions. Printed media on the other hand has manufacturing and distribution costs, which typically eat up cost more than 30% of total revenue.  Apple&#039;s fee gives you direct exposure to their user base, the devices sat in their pockets and their bank accounts, without the users having to do any more than what they already do.

2. There are no technical limitations to app publications if developers know what they are doing. Book/magazine apps can be built using HTML5 and do everything a web app can do, including linking to content within the app or elsewhere. But by wrapping it in an app, you make it a purchasable, or subscribable item.

3. The design of many book or magazine apps to date are poor. They either have readability or usability issues, or contain an abundance of multimedia or &#039;interactive&#039; elements that distract from the experience of reading (see Wired). Pontin&#039;s cancelled app was a prime example of this.

So the point is, to dismiss app publications as &#039;unworkable&#039; seems a little premature, particularly if this statement is based on poorly executed examples. Publishers should try employing experienced app developers and designers and properly evaluating the results before giving up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As other commenters have outlined, Jason Pontin&#8217;s position is ill informed and flawed.</p>
<p>1. Apple&#8217;s 30% may seem steep compared to the web, but this is an unfair comparison considering that it is very difficult to obtain any sort of reasonable revenue from the web. Consumers perceive web content as &#8216;free&#8217; whereas they are happy to pay for (iOS) apps, in their billions. Printed media on the other hand has manufacturing and distribution costs, which typically eat up cost more than 30% of total revenue.  Apple&#8217;s fee gives you direct exposure to their user base, the devices sat in their pockets and their bank accounts, without the users having to do any more than what they already do.</p>
<p>2. There are no technical limitations to app publications if developers know what they are doing. Book/magazine apps can be built using HTML5 and do everything a web app can do, including linking to content within the app or elsewhere. But by wrapping it in an app, you make it a purchasable, or subscribable item.</p>
<p>3. The design of many book or magazine apps to date are poor. They either have readability or usability issues, or contain an abundance of multimedia or &#8216;interactive&#8217; elements that distract from the experience of reading (see Wired). Pontin&#8217;s cancelled app was a prime example of this.</p>
<p>So the point is, to dismiss app publications as &#8216;unworkable&#8217; seems a little premature, particularly if this statement is based on poorly executed examples. Publishers should try employing experienced app developers and designers and properly evaluating the results before giving up.</p>
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		<title>By: pawelnjetnowak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pawelnjetnowak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UTalkMakreting has a good point about being only  2 years down the road.
http://blog.utalkmarketing.com/uncategorized/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps-—-tech-news-and-analysis/
 
What I&#039;d add to Jason Pontin post is an entry barier today vs 2 years ago.
It was huge investment for publishers to build their own apps two years ago, but today landscape filled with software as a service publishing sollutions that literally take and hour and a few hundred bucks to start your own app. Test your idea small scale, before going full power, right?
 
Disclamer, I work with http://presspadapp.com, one of those companies. That said, I still stay by that statement even if I wasn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UTalkMakreting has a good point about being only  2 years down the road.<br />
<a href="http://blog.utalkmarketing.com/uncategorized/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps-—-tech-news-and-analysis/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.utalkmarketing.com/uncategorized/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps-—-tech-news-and-analysis/</a></p>
<p>What I&#8217;d add to Jason Pontin post is an entry barier today vs 2 years ago.<br />
It was huge investment for publishers to build their own apps two years ago, but today landscape filled with software as a service publishing sollutions that literally take and hour and a few hundred bucks to start your own app. Test your idea small scale, before going full power, right?</p>
<p>Disclamer, I work with <a href="http://presspadapp.com" rel="nofollow">http://presspadapp.com</a>, one of those companies. That said, I still stay by that statement even if I wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Amstutz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-841647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Amstutz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 18:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I&#039;d rather read a well designed iPad magazine app than a story like this where there are hot-links every other sentence, and I feel like I have to click to a dozen different places to get the story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;d rather read a well designed iPad magazine app than a story like this where there are hot-links every other sentence, and I feel like I have to click to a dozen different places to get the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Biztag</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-841008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biztag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 02:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Move to mobile-web or you can.t survive!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Move to mobile-web or you can.t survive!</p>
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		<title>By: Micke Kazarnowicz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-839984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Micke Kazarnowicz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 14:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;[Popular Science] has made more than $1 million NET revenue (after design costs, licensing of our platform and Apple’s cut) on its iPad edition, or Popular Photography […] has moved more than 10 percent of its 350,000 rate base to iPad&quot;
- When reading Tech Review&#039;s original post, our CPO Mike Haney wrote a reply that definitely is relevant as a comment for this post as well: 
http://www.magplus.com/tech-review-please-call-us-before-you-give-up/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[Popular Science] has made more than $1 million NET revenue (after design costs, licensing of our platform and Apple’s cut) on its iPad edition, or Popular Photography […] has moved more than 10 percent of its 350,000 rate base to iPad&#8221;<br />
- When reading Tech Review&#8217;s original post, our CPO Mike Haney wrote a reply that definitely is relevant as a comment for this post as well:<br />
<a href="http://www.magplus.com/tech-review-please-call-us-before-you-give-up/" rel="nofollow">http://www.magplus.com/tech-review-please-call-us-before-you-give-up/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Wood</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-839973</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 14:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A regular URL can be interpreted different ways on different devices.  The URL does not need to be device specific. Remember that a browser is just an application, like anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A regular URL can be interpreted different ways on different devices.  The URL does not need to be device specific. Remember that a browser is just an application, like anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr San Diego</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-839768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr San Diego]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 20:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with Trevor. To pile on...Barnes &amp; Noble&#039;s Nook is taking 50%. Apple&#039;s 30% take is reasonable compared to Nook. Agencies such as the school subscription programs take 85% and remit 15% to the publishers. Let&#039;s face it, publishers have taken a beating for a long time. We&#039;ve never received our fair share of the pie as a result of depending on advertising versus circulation revenues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Trevor. To pile on&#8230;Barnes &amp; Noble&#8217;s Nook is taking 50%. Apple&#8217;s 30% take is reasonable compared to Nook. Agencies such as the school subscription programs take 85% and remit 15% to the publishers. Let&#8217;s face it, publishers have taken a beating for a long time. We&#8217;ve never received our fair share of the pie as a result of depending on advertising versus circulation revenues.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Doerksen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-839643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor Doerksen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I delivered newspapers as a kid I was paid 40%. When Walmart sells a magazine in it&#039;s store it takes at least 70%. Apple is a delivery system and retailer. 30% is not draconian. Further, if iTunes is a store. It does not get as many visitors every month as Walmart stores world wide, but iTunes does get more visitors than Walmart.com. If 19% of Walmart shoppers bought a magazine with worse margins we would not complain. The assumptions in this article are ridiculous. 30% is 10 points better than the paperboy and 19% is likely higher than magazine sell-through in Walmart - and that is with high fees paid for product placement next to the till.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I delivered newspapers as a kid I was paid 40%. When Walmart sells a magazine in it&#8217;s store it takes at least 70%. Apple is a delivery system and retailer. 30% is not draconian. Further, if iTunes is a store. It does not get as many visitors every month as Walmart stores world wide, but iTunes does get more visitors than Walmart.com. If 19% of Walmart shoppers bought a magazine with worse margins we would not complain. The assumptions in this article are ridiculous. 30% is 10 points better than the paperboy and 19% is likely higher than magazine sell-through in Walmart &#8211; and that is with high fees paid for product placement next to the till.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuvamani</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/07/are-publishers-waking-up-from-their-dream-about-apps/#comment-839642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuvamani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if I use Android. What If I have a desktop. How does the link work then :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if I use Android. What If I have a desktop. How does the link work then :)</p>
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