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	<title>Comments on: Introducing the Android for grid batteries: GELI</title>
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		<title>By: Richard J Mowat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/06/introducing-the-android-for-grid-batteries-geli/#comment-866420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard J Mowat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I replied to your post with a post.  Sorry for not putting it in the reply space.  Hopefully it gets approved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I replied to your post with a post.  Sorry for not putting it in the reply space.  Hopefully it gets approved.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard J Mowat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/06/introducing-the-android-for-grid-batteries-geli/#comment-866418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard J Mowat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Abeast, i think you are greatly mistaken!  Not all chemical batteries ware out.  The leading grid energy storage device is the vanadium redox battery which offers indefinite scalability, and the vanadium electrolyte NEVER wares out.  The pumps, control boards, membrane, and cell stacks ware out like any other mechanical device.  But the actual vanadium electrolyte will never ware out.  That&#039;s why American Vanadium Corp. will not be selling their vanadium electrolyte.  They will be leasing it to owners of VRB&#039;s.  Read More.. http://www.americanvanadium.com/grid-energy-power-storage.php]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abeast, i think you are greatly mistaken!  Not all chemical batteries ware out.  The leading grid energy storage device is the vanadium redox battery which offers indefinite scalability, and the vanadium electrolyte NEVER wares out.  The pumps, control boards, membrane, and cell stacks ware out like any other mechanical device.  But the actual vanadium electrolyte will never ware out.  That&#8217;s why American Vanadium Corp. will not be selling their vanadium electrolyte.  They will be leasing it to owners of VRB&#8217;s.  Read More.. <a href="http://www.americanvanadium.com/grid-energy-power-storage.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanvanadium.com/grid-energy-power-storage.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Abeast</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/06/introducing-the-android-for-grid-batteries-geli/#comment-839723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abeast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) &quot;frequency regulation&quot; is the maintenance of the 60 Hz alternating frequency.  What the article referred to is load balancing.

2) Chemical storage is one of the worst ways to store energy for the grid.  The chemicals &quot;wear out&quot; quickly in grid terms and cannot be recycled without a huge investment in - you guessed it - energy (not to mention money).  For example, the Li-ion batteries mentioned are good for about 1000 recharge cycles or about 3 years if cycled daily.  Then those expensive batteries need to be replaced.

3) One of the best places for power to be stored is in hot water.  Just add a tank in front of the water heater and let it nominally be cold.  If the utility needs to store power it could signal that tank to turn on and heat (consuming power).  Then the usual hot water tank would be receiving pre-heated water and not demand as much power when it is used during peak periods.  This power would be sold at a lower rate to incentivize people to install them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) &#8220;frequency regulation&#8221; is the maintenance of the 60 Hz alternating frequency.  What the article referred to is load balancing.</p>
<p>2) Chemical storage is one of the worst ways to store energy for the grid.  The chemicals &#8220;wear out&#8221; quickly in grid terms and cannot be recycled without a huge investment in &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; energy (not to mention money).  For example, the Li-ion batteries mentioned are good for about 1000 recharge cycles or about 3 years if cycled daily.  Then those expensive batteries need to be replaced.</p>
<p>3) One of the best places for power to be stored is in hot water.  Just add a tank in front of the water heater and let it nominally be cold.  If the utility needs to store power it could signal that tank to turn on and heat (consuming power).  Then the usual hot water tank would be receiving pre-heated water and not demand as much power when it is used during peak periods.  This power would be sold at a lower rate to incentivize people to install them.</p>
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		<title>By: iqbal27</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/05/06/introducing-the-android-for-grid-batteries-geli/#comment-839336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iqbal27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a good opportunity for every one. So i like it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a good opportunity for every one. So i like it.</p>
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