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	<title>Comments on: Want to see how close TV and broadband are? Check out this chart.</title>
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		<title>By: deeceefar2</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/25/want-to-see-how-close-tv-and-broadband-are-check-out-this-chart/#comment-835116</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandvine is at the middle of artificial business models, and here again they are creating another one.  On one hand they say that raw bandwidth caps aren&#039;t really effective because it is the people who are using bandwidth at peak times that are causing congestion, not just general bandwidth usage.  Then they go on to suggest that what is really needed is an artificial congestion time created similar to what electric companies have so that you can cap the bandwidth at peak times only and then leave it unlimited elsewhere.  Of course the next thing which they didn&#039;t mention is that they have a piece of hardware they&#039;ll sell you if you would rather invest in controlling your existing traffic then build up your network capacity.

They are not reputable in this case because their interests do not align with the ISPs, consumers, or businesses that rely on the internet.  They are just out to sell networking gear and they&#039;ll lie to anyone who will believe them.  Here&#039;s an idea lay more fiber invest in your network and then there won&#039;t need to be bandwidth caps.

Now as soon as you tell ISPs to invest in their infrastructure some poor small ISP says, but we don&#039;t have unlimited bandwidth and we don&#039;t make much money at all so everyone else should suffer because we are getting screwed by the big ISPs in traffic trading.  Well go cry to congress about the large traffic brokers screwing you over, but breaking the entire internet is not an answer, and should be illegal.  Far more important things rely on that infrastructure than your bottom line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandvine is at the middle of artificial business models, and here again they are creating another one.  On one hand they say that raw bandwidth caps aren&#8217;t really effective because it is the people who are using bandwidth at peak times that are causing congestion, not just general bandwidth usage.  Then they go on to suggest that what is really needed is an artificial congestion time created similar to what electric companies have so that you can cap the bandwidth at peak times only and then leave it unlimited elsewhere.  Of course the next thing which they didn&#8217;t mention is that they have a piece of hardware they&#8217;ll sell you if you would rather invest in controlling your existing traffic then build up your network capacity.</p>
<p>They are not reputable in this case because their interests do not align with the ISPs, consumers, or businesses that rely on the internet.  They are just out to sell networking gear and they&#8217;ll lie to anyone who will believe them.  Here&#8217;s an idea lay more fiber invest in your network and then there won&#8217;t need to be bandwidth caps.</p>
<p>Now as soon as you tell ISPs to invest in their infrastructure some poor small ISP says, but we don&#8217;t have unlimited bandwidth and we don&#8217;t make much money at all so everyone else should suffer because we are getting screwed by the big ISPs in traffic trading.  Well go cry to congress about the large traffic brokers screwing you over, but breaking the entire internet is not an answer, and should be illegal.  Far more important things rely on that infrastructure than your bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: deeceefar2</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/25/want-to-see-how-close-tv-and-broadband-are-check-out-this-chart/#comment-835108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeceefar2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless your goal of course is to discuss increasing data consumption.  In that case it makes sense to discuss the data usage of video.  Who cares about engagement when you&#039;re talking about data consumption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless your goal of course is to discuss increasing data consumption.  In that case it makes sense to discuss the data usage of video.  Who cares about engagement when you&#8217;re talking about data consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Morris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/25/want-to-see-how-close-tv-and-broadband-are-check-out-this-chart/#comment-835094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Morris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Measuring the popularity of broadband video by measuring the total traffic it accounts for is slightly misleading. Video files are inherently large, and as the article points out, their file size can expand as better bandwidth becomes available. Other extremely engaging online activities - for instance, playing World of Warcraft - result in much smaller data packet transfers but may be consuming vastly more user engagement time than video. My point is that the amount of data transferred is not, in itself and in isolation, a useful indicator of anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Measuring the popularity of broadband video by measuring the total traffic it accounts for is slightly misleading. Video files are inherently large, and as the article points out, their file size can expand as better bandwidth becomes available. Other extremely engaging online activities &#8211; for instance, playing World of Warcraft &#8211; result in much smaller data packet transfers but may be consuming vastly more user engagement time than video. My point is that the amount of data transferred is not, in itself and in isolation, a useful indicator of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Pretovsky</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/25/want-to-see-how-close-tv-and-broadband-are-check-out-this-chart/#comment-834838</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boris Pretovsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of this talk of network congestion is misdirection to make people think about subjects that are meaningless.

If someone wanted to, they could build fiber optic connections right now to handle internet traffic for the year 3000. The process is not that expensive. They are not building Stealth bombers or sending men to the moon. They are using readily available construction equipment that can be rented from U haul to dig a hole, bury cable in it, and cover the hole back up with dirt. 

Children dig holes and fill them back up just for fun.

If the country cared more about keeping itself up than in spying on and killing Muslims, they would take the money they are using to spy on and kill Muslims, and use it to start a public works program to build a fiber optic network across the country like the public works projects they had back during the depression.

A public works project that helped every citizen in the country would cut corporate political donors out of profits though, so it is unlikely such a common sense, rational approach will be taken to solve the problem of internet traffic congestion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this talk of network congestion is misdirection to make people think about subjects that are meaningless.</p>
<p>If someone wanted to, they could build fiber optic connections right now to handle internet traffic for the year 3000. The process is not that expensive. They are not building Stealth bombers or sending men to the moon. They are using readily available construction equipment that can be rented from U haul to dig a hole, bury cable in it, and cover the hole back up with dirt. </p>
<p>Children dig holes and fill them back up just for fun.</p>
<p>If the country cared more about keeping itself up than in spying on and killing Muslims, they would take the money they are using to spy on and kill Muslims, and use it to start a public works program to build a fiber optic network across the country like the public works projects they had back during the depression.</p>
<p>A public works project that helped every citizen in the country would cut corporate political donors out of profits though, so it is unlikely such a common sense, rational approach will be taken to solve the problem of internet traffic congestion.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, caps are a means of managing a scarce resource.  You are arguing for a transfer of economics from network builder / operators to the Netflix of the worlds.  Free riding is called free riding for a reason.  Ultimately, someone has to pay for the network if you want the network to continue to work.  Operators will have no incentive to do so if you forcibly shift the economics in favor of over the top providers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, caps are a means of managing a scarce resource.  You are arguing for a transfer of economics from network builder / operators to the Netflix of the worlds.  Free riding is called free riding for a reason.  Ultimately, someone has to pay for the network if you want the network to continue to work.  Operators will have no incentive to do so if you forcibly shift the economics in favor of over the top providers.</p>
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