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	<title>Comments on: Lamar Smith: SOPA protesters were &#8220;misinformed.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: gautamonline</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/02/lamar-smith-sopa-protesters-were-misinformed/#comment-833353</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gautamonline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve laws are made by people and broken by people. No law can be simple enough, and yet make 7 billion people on this planet comply to it. There was injustice in this world, and there will always be. Deal with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve laws are made by people and broken by people. No law can be simple enough, and yet make 7 billion people on this planet comply to it. There was injustice in this world, and there will always be. Deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Worse Doughnut</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/02/lamar-smith-sopa-protesters-were-misinformed/#comment-825962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Worse Doughnut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dumbass government. I&#039;m moving to the moon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumbass government. I&#8217;m moving to the moon.</p>
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		<title>By: DreadedAstroturfSoldier</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/02/lamar-smith-sopa-protesters-were-misinformed/#comment-825724</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DreadedAstroturfSoldier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are -hilariously- delusional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are -hilariously- delusional.</p>
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		<title>By: adminmarkos</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/02/lamar-smith-sopa-protesters-were-misinformed/#comment-825695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[adminmarkos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 02:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of parrotting, haven&#039;t you said the same thing every time you have posted here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of parrotting, haven&#8217;t you said the same thing every time you have posted here?</p>
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		<title>By: Edward G</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/02/lamar-smith-sopa-protesters-were-misinformed/#comment-825680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 02:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brett you&#039;re f&#039;ing hilarious, I&#039;m going to go ahead and pass you off as a viral marketeer for a major lobbyist. The only way I can keep my sanity is believing you&#039;re acting insane for money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett you&#8217;re f&#8217;ing hilarious, I&#8217;m going to go ahead and pass you off as a viral marketeer for a major lobbyist. The only way I can keep my sanity is believing you&#8217;re acting insane for money.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward G</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/02/lamar-smith-sopa-protesters-were-misinformed/#comment-825679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The saddest part is we can&#039;t just wait for these old out of touch people to die off because they&#039;ve indoctrinated enough of the next generation of politicians to carry on with their obsolete methods instead of striving for something better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The saddest part is we can&#8217;t just wait for these old out of touch people to die off because they&#8217;ve indoctrinated enough of the next generation of politicians to carry on with their obsolete methods instead of striving for something better.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve K</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/04/02/lamar-smith-sopa-protesters-were-misinformed/#comment-825676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love these rationalizations and twisted logic.  On another blog someone posted the crux of the rationalization.  Which I&#039;ll apply to your cake example.  Because the cake is physical, you can&#039;t really reproduce it.  You can share the finite quantity you have with whomever, which is part of the fair use.  But if the bakery has copyrighted the recipe as part of maintaining a competitive advantage over other less creative bakeries, and you succeed in exactly reproducing copies (or you obtain the recipe without their permission) then yes you can be sued.  If you sell your copies to others you should definitely be sued.  If you give it away to all your fiends, thus depriving the original bakery of sales, then you should also be sued.  As you have taken their recipe and hurt their business with it.

It is this concept of infinite reproduciblity that is behind all these rationalizations.  It&#039;s just bits on a drive somewhere.  There&#039;s no &quot;thing&quot; that&#039;s being stolen so how can it be theft.  You can make infinite copies and the original will still be right where it always was.  Nobody is being deprived of that original.

Except that the original was placed on the market as part of a free exchange of value.  The artist sets a price, and the buyers decide if they want to pay that much for it.  Exactly the same as the creation and sale of physical objects.  The cost of reproduction has no bearing on the cost of purchase.  Do you honestly think physical thing you buy costs only what it took to make it?  No, it takes creative people to invent it, people to detail the design, people to build the factories, and a host of people to keep things running so you can buy it.  Just because a digital music copy only costs you a bit of bandwidth to reproduce, doesn&#039;t mean that a lot of money wasn&#039;t committed in making it, and that in placing it on the market for sale, the hope that some of that money will get paid off.

This is where the issue of consent comes in.  If some indie band wants to make a low fi recording on stuff they bought at Guitar Center and then give it away in hopes of getting some attention, that is their choice.  They have given consent for people to have their product at no cost.  But the reality is that all these folks are hoping to make it big and get signed by a label.  Who will then front the bill for a proper recording studio with gear and engineers that will make them sound great.  Which will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.  And now, they need to withdraw that consent to free copies, because they have bills to pay.

Yes, there are exceptions to the rule like Radiohead.  But even at that, a lot of these exceptions rode the train of letting someone else front the money for them to get big enough to turn around and thumb their noses at the industry and afford professional level personal studios so they could do it themselves.  Even Nirvana let someone else in the form of small indie labels foot the bills for them.  And when Dave Grohl says that his last album was done in his garage, he&#039;s talking about a professional level studio with more than a hundred thousand in equipment paid for off of sales of Nirvana albums.  Nothing is as free as you think.

And if you think a musician can exist without sales of their music (or teaching on the side) then you have obviously never been on a tour, which is the only other way to make a living unless you happen to get a plumb union gig for Cirque de Soleil in Vegas.  Imagine you had to ride in a van for 6 hours every day and then move a ton of equipment just so you could put in a days work.  Only to be limited to grabbing some fast food and crashing in some roach motel.  Or jumping back in the van and trying to sleep which sharing driving duties.  It&#039;s not a sustainable occupation.  So if you manage to convince some folks that you can come up with a business model that is immune to piracy, I&#039;d like to talk with them in 10 years and see what their lives are like.  And whether they agree with you model then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these rationalizations and twisted logic.  On another blog someone posted the crux of the rationalization.  Which I&#8217;ll apply to your cake example.  Because the cake is physical, you can&#8217;t really reproduce it.  You can share the finite quantity you have with whomever, which is part of the fair use.  But if the bakery has copyrighted the recipe as part of maintaining a competitive advantage over other less creative bakeries, and you succeed in exactly reproducing copies (or you obtain the recipe without their permission) then yes you can be sued.  If you sell your copies to others you should definitely be sued.  If you give it away to all your fiends, thus depriving the original bakery of sales, then you should also be sued.  As you have taken their recipe and hurt their business with it.</p>
<p>It is this concept of infinite reproduciblity that is behind all these rationalizations.  It&#8217;s just bits on a drive somewhere.  There&#8217;s no &#8220;thing&#8221; that&#8217;s being stolen so how can it be theft.  You can make infinite copies and the original will still be right where it always was.  Nobody is being deprived of that original.</p>
<p>Except that the original was placed on the market as part of a free exchange of value.  The artist sets a price, and the buyers decide if they want to pay that much for it.  Exactly the same as the creation and sale of physical objects.  The cost of reproduction has no bearing on the cost of purchase.  Do you honestly think physical thing you buy costs only what it took to make it?  No, it takes creative people to invent it, people to detail the design, people to build the factories, and a host of people to keep things running so you can buy it.  Just because a digital music copy only costs you a bit of bandwidth to reproduce, doesn&#8217;t mean that a lot of money wasn&#8217;t committed in making it, and that in placing it on the market for sale, the hope that some of that money will get paid off.</p>
<p>This is where the issue of consent comes in.  If some indie band wants to make a low fi recording on stuff they bought at Guitar Center and then give it away in hopes of getting some attention, that is their choice.  They have given consent for people to have their product at no cost.  But the reality is that all these folks are hoping to make it big and get signed by a label.  Who will then front the bill for a proper recording studio with gear and engineers that will make them sound great.  Which will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.  And now, they need to withdraw that consent to free copies, because they have bills to pay.</p>
<p>Yes, there are exceptions to the rule like Radiohead.  But even at that, a lot of these exceptions rode the train of letting someone else front the money for them to get big enough to turn around and thumb their noses at the industry and afford professional level personal studios so they could do it themselves.  Even Nirvana let someone else in the form of small indie labels foot the bills for them.  And when Dave Grohl says that his last album was done in his garage, he&#8217;s talking about a professional level studio with more than a hundred thousand in equipment paid for off of sales of Nirvana albums.  Nothing is as free as you think.</p>
<p>And if you think a musician can exist without sales of their music (or teaching on the side) then you have obviously never been on a tour, which is the only other way to make a living unless you happen to get a plumb union gig for Cirque de Soleil in Vegas.  Imagine you had to ride in a van for 6 hours every day and then move a ton of equipment just so you could put in a days work.  Only to be limited to grabbing some fast food and crashing in some roach motel.  Or jumping back in the van and trying to sleep which sharing driving duties.  It&#8217;s not a sustainable occupation.  So if you manage to convince some folks that you can come up with a business model that is immune to piracy, I&#8217;d like to talk with them in 10 years and see what their lives are like.  And whether they agree with you model then.</p>
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		<title>By: Webmaster</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Specially when he was stealing pictures online and putting them on his blog.

Someone should seize and freeze his banking activities, I bet he is DEEPLY involved in fraud on VERY GREAT LEVELS.  Including and not limited to cancer foundations, laundering dirty money from over seas for other head chairman of departments in USA.  perhaps the largest in history]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specially when he was stealing pictures online and putting them on his blog.</p>
<p>Someone should seize and freeze his banking activities, I bet he is DEEPLY involved in fraud on VERY GREAT LEVELS.  Including and not limited to cancer foundations, laundering dirty money from over seas for other head chairman of departments in USA.  perhaps the largest in history</p>
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		<title>By: Webmaster</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is/was the author of SOPA.  BY THE WAY.    He is also the one that continues to fight against nationalizing medicinal cannabis for patients, or removal of un-necessary prohibition thereof.  DOX&#039;s go to proove he has BIG INTEREST and investment in Private Prison industries to top it off, so he and his family and best friends are living off of the misery and pain caused by the illegazation of cannabis in the states, and locking humans away like rodents for it too.  Perhaps he is friends with Ted Turner who wants to depopulate 95% of humanity by the years end.  Perhaps they have investments in FEMA and perhaps… perhaps PUFMM will topple them down before they get ANYWHERE near such a heavy attack on our brothers and sisters.  Let our people go free and stop abusing and killing people for profits you evil idiots.  You will reap what you sowe… truth be told.

BTW, Lamar Smith… you too should stop breaking copyright laws, while you are at it, resign and allow more proficient young spirits to fix our nation and planet, before you old farts destroy what little you have left to the future generations.   Lord knows how much cleaning is already needed thus far all over the place in so many ways.

Namaste to all, research PUFMM on facebook.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is/was the author of SOPA.  BY THE WAY.    He is also the one that continues to fight against nationalizing medicinal cannabis for patients, or removal of un-necessary prohibition thereof.  DOX&#8217;s go to proove he has BIG INTEREST and investment in Private Prison industries to top it off, so he and his family and best friends are living off of the misery and pain caused by the illegazation of cannabis in the states, and locking humans away like rodents for it too.  Perhaps he is friends with Ted Turner who wants to depopulate 95% of humanity by the years end.  Perhaps they have investments in FEMA and perhaps… perhaps PUFMM will topple them down before they get ANYWHERE near such a heavy attack on our brothers and sisters.  Let our people go free and stop abusing and killing people for profits you evil idiots.  You will reap what you sowe… truth be told.</p>
<p>BTW, Lamar Smith… you too should stop breaking copyright laws, while you are at it, resign and allow more proficient young spirits to fix our nation and planet, before you old farts destroy what little you have left to the future generations.   Lord knows how much cleaning is already needed thus far all over the place in so many ways.</p>
<p>Namaste to all, research PUFMM on facebook.</p>
<p>∆</p>
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		<title>By: ryankelly77</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ryankelly77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last time I checked, the musicians in Austin were perfectly happy if you downloaded their music, or shared it.  It helped build their brand and name as musicians.  I&#039;m not sure who exactly he is speaking for in Austin...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I checked, the musicians in Austin were perfectly happy if you downloaded their music, or shared it.  It helped build their brand and name as musicians.  I&#8217;m not sure who exactly he is speaking for in Austin&#8230;</p>
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