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	<title>Comments on: A stronger ecosystem, not a Nexus tablet, is what Google needs</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-833409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with you on that. My best experiences have been been with the Nexus One and now the Galaxy Nexus for the very reasons you mention: total control. Unfortunately, carrier control is very entrenched in the U.S. market; a look at what Google tried to do with the Nexus One shows how difficult it is to make the kinds of changes you and I might want to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on that. My best experiences have been been with the Nexus One and now the Galaxy Nexus for the very reasons you mention: total control. Unfortunately, carrier control is very entrenched in the U.S. market; a look at what Google tried to do with the Nexus One shows how difficult it is to make the kinds of changes you and I might want to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mobile</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-833081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mobile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I&#039;ve sat researching phones and tablets all day. What I&#039;m tired of is this Vendor control. I just want a phone that I can do what I want with. I want a phone or a tablet that has an interchangeable radio. Want to use it on T-Mobile... fine, change out the radio like a SIM card or USB dongle. Use it on ATT... fine change out the radio. etc. Remove this proprietary vendor lock in, remove the carrier mods to the OS. Just let me have the data transmission and let me use the computer. My ISP at home doesn&#039;t control my OS on computers I use, why should vendors.

I just want a nice phone and tablet that is powerful and doesn&#039;t compromise on all these features from the carrier. Give me the phone with the nice screen, Add on the memory, add in the MP camera, wireless charging, nice battery life. Look, it&#039;s all do-able. Instead, it&#039;s like they release one feature at a time instead of just releasing the ultimate phone tablet just so we buy them. Just give me what I want, from a hardware angle... and give me what I want from a carrier angle (which is just data). Maybe a wireless public band of networked devices that just routed traffic on its own would be way better than this carrier junk.

I digress, but I am so frustrated with not having the device I want like my first HTC dream or current Nexus One, and the phone carriers all suck in their money-sucking ways, I&#039;ll just stick with what I have right now and not give into their crap ways.

That&#039;s why the tablet and phone market isn&#039;t going places fast for companies like Google/etc. No one is giving the consumer what they want. Everyone&#039;s trying to control what they give us. If one company can figure out how to give us all of it, I know they&#039;d do well if they execute it right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;ve sat researching phones and tablets all day. What I&#8217;m tired of is this Vendor control. I just want a phone that I can do what I want with. I want a phone or a tablet that has an interchangeable radio. Want to use it on T-Mobile&#8230; fine, change out the radio like a SIM card or USB dongle. Use it on ATT&#8230; fine change out the radio. etc. Remove this proprietary vendor lock in, remove the carrier mods to the OS. Just let me have the data transmission and let me use the computer. My ISP at home doesn&#8217;t control my OS on computers I use, why should vendors.</p>
<p>I just want a nice phone and tablet that is powerful and doesn&#8217;t compromise on all these features from the carrier. Give me the phone with the nice screen, Add on the memory, add in the MP camera, wireless charging, nice battery life. Look, it&#8217;s all do-able. Instead, it&#8217;s like they release one feature at a time instead of just releasing the ultimate phone tablet just so we buy them. Just give me what I want, from a hardware angle&#8230; and give me what I want from a carrier angle (which is just data). Maybe a wireless public band of networked devices that just routed traffic on its own would be way better than this carrier junk.</p>
<p>I digress, but I am so frustrated with not having the device I want like my first HTC dream or current Nexus One, and the phone carriers all suck in their money-sucking ways, I&#8217;ll just stick with what I have right now and not give into their crap ways.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the tablet and phone market isn&#8217;t going places fast for companies like Google/etc. No one is giving the consumer what they want. Everyone&#8217;s trying to control what they give us. If one company can figure out how to give us all of it, I know they&#8217;d do well if they execute it right.</p>
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		<title>By: David McCormack</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-816364</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David McCormack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 01:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The iPhone wasn&#039;t even on sale 5 years ago and Android didn&#039;t come out until 3.5 years ago. So I&#039;m not sure what you mean by the &quot;Android has had 5 years to make its mark&quot; comment. In any case, Android leapfrogged iOS long ago in terms of adoption and is now firmly established as the World&#039;s dominant smartphone platform. 58% is the most recent global figure I&#039;ve seen and that was more than 3 times the iOS figure. Even considering just the US market, Android is already nudging 50% with iOS running at just 30%. Moreover, the rate of Android adoption is accelerating. By some conservative estimates, device activations are currently running at 400,000 per day, and some analysts are even bandying about numbers twice that big. Nokia 2 indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPhone wasn&#8217;t even on sale 5 years ago and Android didn&#8217;t come out until 3.5 years ago. So I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by the &#8220;Android has had 5 years to make its mark&#8221; comment. In any case, Android leapfrogged iOS long ago in terms of adoption and is now firmly established as the World&#8217;s dominant smartphone platform. 58% is the most recent global figure I&#8217;ve seen and that was more than 3 times the iOS figure. Even considering just the US market, Android is already nudging 50% with iOS running at just 30%. Moreover, the rate of Android adoption is accelerating. By some conservative estimates, device activations are currently running at 400,000 per day, and some analysts are even bandying about numbers twice that big. Nokia 2 indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: raul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-816267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Android has had 5 years to make its mark and give Apple a run for its money. The fact that its hasn&#039;t even been able to replicate the smoothness the original iPhone inspite of the huge resources at its disposal suggests a Nokia 2 in the works. 

Google needs to figure this out asap, give Andy Rubin a break, fresh ideas to not just compete but leapfrog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Android has had 5 years to make its mark and give Apple a run for its money. The fact that its hasn&#8217;t even been able to replicate the smoothness the original iPhone inspite of the huge resources at its disposal suggests a Nokia 2 in the works. </p>
<p>Google needs to figure this out asap, give Andy Rubin a break, fresh ideas to not just compete but leapfrog.</p>
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		<title>By: John S. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-816222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John S. Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. The Android ecosystem isn&#039;t yet strong enough. Google rebranding the market to Google Play and putting everything under one banner is smart but isn&#039;t yet enough.

What&#039;s the purpose of Google working with Asus when they own Motorola? Yes, I know Google has claimed Motorola will get no special advantages, but what&#039;s the point of the purchase if they won&#039;t get exclusive access in any respect? Motorola on its own is not profitable. Just allowing management to continue on will be a disaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The Android ecosystem isn&#8217;t yet strong enough. Google rebranding the market to Google Play and putting everything under one banner is smart but isn&#8217;t yet enough.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the purpose of Google working with Asus when they own Motorola? Yes, I know Google has claimed Motorola will get no special advantages, but what&#8217;s the point of the purchase if they won&#8217;t get exclusive access in any respect? Motorola on its own is not profitable. Just allowing management to continue on will be a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Earls Spoor</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-816110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Earls Spoor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I own two Samsung 10.1 Tabs. They suck. A broader ecosystem would be nice, but what I would really like is a hardware / software platform that worked fluidly. These things are buggy and unresponsive way too often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own two Samsung 10.1 Tabs. They suck. A broader ecosystem would be nice, but what I would really like is a hardware / software platform that worked fluidly. These things are buggy and unresponsive way too often.</p>
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		<title>By: scottph</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-816070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scottph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My take on Google&#039;s tablet problem: http://scottsscripts.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/doubling-down-on-tablets/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on Google&#8217;s tablet problem: <a href="http://scottsscripts.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/doubling-down-on-tablets/" rel="nofollow">http://scottsscripts.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/doubling-down-on-tablets/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ronald</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-815831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ronald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 20:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google&#039;s biggest enemy:   Google
Google is a kingdom of fiefdoms each with their own P&amp;L.  From a developer perspective intents are fine, how are they integrated into market?  If it takes 5 min to develop an intent call 3 of which it takes to find the required doc, what&#039;s wrong with that?  Just read the G+ comments from internal Google and external.

From a user standpoint how long did it take to see a half way working Google Docs implementation on Android?  Email, gmail still sucks, no integration.

As for development, the most advanced CASE (Computer Aided Software Engineering ) system I have seen were always classified.  If anybody thinks that SIRI is just there to answer &quot;What is the essence of live&quot; good luck adjusting your Assistant in the future.

Also as an exercise watch the upcoming iPad[3] announcement than go back and watch Nexus Galaxy, or NFL against high school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google&#8217;s biggest enemy:   Google<br />
Google is a kingdom of fiefdoms each with their own P&amp;L.  From a developer perspective intents are fine, how are they integrated into market?  If it takes 5 min to develop an intent call 3 of which it takes to find the required doc, what&#8217;s wrong with that?  Just read the G+ comments from internal Google and external.</p>
<p>From a user standpoint how long did it take to see a half way working Google Docs implementation on Android?  Email, gmail still sucks, no integration.</p>
<p>As for development, the most advanced CASE (Computer Aided Software Engineering ) system I have seen were always classified.  If anybody thinks that SIRI is just there to answer &#8220;What is the essence of live&#8221; good luck adjusting your Assistant in the future.</p>
<p>Also as an exercise watch the upcoming iPad[3] announcement than go back and watch Nexus Galaxy, or NFL against high school.</p>
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		<title>By: A S</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-815816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Android needs a lot of things in terms of product vision, roadmap and leadership, and Google isn&#039;t giving that now. Developing, maintaining, marketing and supporting (don&#039;t forget support!) an entire OS needs a different kind of personality and I am afraid Google may not have it. Is it a product or service that four brilliant programmers can hack together by themselves in a room? Yes, Google is great at doing that, even if it is an awesome product like Chrome or Google Maps. But is it a mobile OS that needs an entire market place to be singing in sync, that needs the skills of a god of cat-herders? Sorry, Google isn&#039;t it.

Apologies to Andy Rubin, but he is a tinkerer techie who is great at managing Android development in the lab. Android needs an entirely different person to work the market (includes hardware manufacturers, telcos, customers, developers, etc.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Android needs a lot of things in terms of product vision, roadmap and leadership, and Google isn&#8217;t giving that now. Developing, maintaining, marketing and supporting (don&#8217;t forget support!) an entire OS needs a different kind of personality and I am afraid Google may not have it. Is it a product or service that four brilliant programmers can hack together by themselves in a room? Yes, Google is great at doing that, even if it is an awesome product like Chrome or Google Maps. But is it a mobile OS that needs an entire market place to be singing in sync, that needs the skills of a god of cat-herders? Sorry, Google isn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>Apologies to Andy Rubin, but he is a tinkerer techie who is great at managing Android development in the lab. Android needs an entirely different person to work the market (includes hardware manufacturers, telcos, customers, developers, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Ted-san Inoue</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/03/05/a-stronger-ecosystem-not-a-nexus-tablet-is-what-google-needs/#comment-815815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted-san Inoue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Google needs is to spin off a consumer products division. In an engineer driven culture, you are not going to create great products. I&#039;m an engineer, so I&#039;m not bashing engineers. I&#039;m also a big Google fan. But I recognized for some time that Google simply doesn&#039;t have the culture needed to create great consumer products.

You have to pick your core, focus on that, and do it incredibly well. Google has already chosen engineering as it&#039;s core so the type of design and user-centric product experience that Apple provides has been, and will continue to be, impossible for Google to replicate within the current structure. If they want to be real players in this space, they need an independent team that is driven by awesome product people, not engineers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Google needs is to spin off a consumer products division. In an engineer driven culture, you are not going to create great products. I&#8217;m an engineer, so I&#8217;m not bashing engineers. I&#8217;m also a big Google fan. But I recognized for some time that Google simply doesn&#8217;t have the culture needed to create great consumer products.</p>
<p>You have to pick your core, focus on that, and do it incredibly well. Google has already chosen engineering as it&#8217;s core so the type of design and user-centric product experience that Apple provides has been, and will continue to be, impossible for Google to replicate within the current structure. If they want to be real players in this space, they need an independent team that is driven by awesome product people, not engineers.</p>
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