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	<title>Comments on: AT&amp;T&#8217;s mad, mad plan to charge wireless app developers</title>
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		<title>By: Contemplation</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-824997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Contemplation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AT&amp;T should charge OTT folks for carriage.  First and foremost tho is that consumers should have more choice in MMO&#039;s - which today they really do not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T should charge OTT folks for carriage.  First and foremost tho is that consumers should have more choice in MMO&#8217;s &#8211; which today they really do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Contemplation</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-824996</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Contemplation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are for profit networks - not charity networks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are for profit networks &#8211; not charity networks.</p>
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		<title>By: Contemplation</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-824995</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Contemplation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stacy, what you fail to appreciate is the network is operating as a for profit business. It is a fact, that the success of OTT  Internet companies such as Skype, Facebook, Google, Netflix are ALL predicated on &quot;FREE&quot; Transport pipes. The consumer is getting charged because there is no mechanism to charge the OTT folks. Since the network is a TWO communications medium both sides (consumer, Internet APP) need to pay a FEE to use the network. 

The only real question is what is the real monetary value associated with price of carriage ? If you do not like the &quot;troll toll&quot; then you do not need to use the mobile device for the application.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacy, what you fail to appreciate is the network is operating as a for profit business. It is a fact, that the success of OTT  Internet companies such as Skype, Facebook, Google, Netflix are ALL predicated on &#8220;FREE&#8221; Transport pipes. The consumer is getting charged because there is no mechanism to charge the OTT folks. Since the network is a TWO communications medium both sides (consumer, Internet APP) need to pay a FEE to use the network. </p>
<p>The only real question is what is the real monetary value associated with price of carriage ? If you do not like the &#8220;troll toll&#8221; then you do not need to use the mobile device for the application.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Albright</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-814901</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Albright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you don&#039;t want to see AT&amp;T do this, please consider signing the petition on change.org. If enough people protest, maybe AT&amp;T will change its mind. After all, that&#039;s how a bunch of people got Bank of America to change its mind about debit card fees. http://chn.ge/wpeZTt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t want to see AT&amp;T do this, please consider signing the petition on change.org. If enough people protest, maybe AT&amp;T will change its mind. After all, that&#8217;s how a bunch of people got Bank of America to change its mind about debit card fees. <a href="http://chn.ge/wpeZTt" rel="nofollow">http://chn.ge/wpeZTt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-814681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Where/when did AT&amp;T acknowledge that the bandwidth in this still emerging plan would somehow be of higher quality?&quot;

I don&#039;t think AT&amp;T specified a difference in quality, per se, but it is certainly possible they could offer lower prices to some companies, creating a tiered environment where big players can freeze out new entrants who lack the user base and capital to pay for their customers&#039; data upfront.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where/when did AT&amp;T acknowledge that the bandwidth in this still emerging plan would somehow be of higher quality?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think AT&amp;T specified a difference in quality, per se, but it is certainly possible they could offer lower prices to some companies, creating a tiered environment where big players can freeze out new entrants who lack the user base and capital to pay for their customers&#8217; data upfront.</p>
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		<title>By: bitDr</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-814606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bitDr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kindof like charginf General Motors and Ford for their vehicles using the roadways while charging the owner of the vehicle for the licence amd fuel taxes. Very evil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kindof like charginf General Motors and Ford for their vehicles using the roadways while charging the owner of the vehicle for the licence amd fuel taxes. Very evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-814600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article seems fair, but I do question the use of that photo.  Masked perpetrators sticking a gun in your face?  That&#039;s a little over the top.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article seems fair, but I do question the use of that photo.  Masked perpetrators sticking a gun in your face?  That&#8217;s a little over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-814593</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think AT&amp;T can eek out a living.  After capital expenditures and dividends, they were left with about $4B in free cash flow from 2011.  Verizon finished 2011 with about $6B if free cash flow.  These telco&#039;s are not exactly circling the drain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think AT&amp;T can eek out a living.  After capital expenditures and dividends, they were left with about $4B in free cash flow from 2011.  Verizon finished 2011 with about $6B if free cash flow.  These telco&#8217;s are not exactly circling the drain.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Wilco</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-814119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Wilco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Donovan is using toll-free as an analogy. Until AT&amp;T reveals full details of the plan, let&#039;s give him the benefit of the doubt and not call out injustices where none exist.

Toll-free calling is not compulsory for businesses. Of course the caller is not billed either ... unless you&#039;re using wireless maritime services, at which point you have international roaming charges (but I digress).

In the cited WSJ article, Mr. Donavan refers to the nascent plan as &quot;a feature that we&#039;re hoping to have&quot; and that AT&amp;T would offer an &quot;incentive to participate&quot;.

That sounds an awful lot like &quot;optional&quot; vs. &quot;mandatory&quot; to me.

Just as consumers don&#039;t pay for toll-free calls, if the analogy holds, then consumers wouldn&#039;t pay for bandwidth used by toll-free metered apps either.

As for consumer advocate arguments that &quot;AT&amp;T could stifle competition and shift the playing field toward well-heeled app developers and content providers&quot; ... by that logic, any telco offering toll-free services has stifled competition and shifted the playing field with every toll-free number they ever issued to a business.

&quot;By allowing some companies to pay for better services&quot; is perhaps the WSJ article&#039;s most egregious leap in logic. Tell me: Where/when did AT&amp;T acknowledge that the bandwidth in this still emerging plan would somehow be of higher quality? Answer: They didn&#039;t. All I gleaned is that it could be paid for by businesses. Accent on could.

Until AT&amp;T has more exacting info to say about this, don&#039;t go jumping to fatal conclusions, folks.

The root faux pas here is not with AT&amp;T, but in WSJ&#039;s misleading headline: AT&amp;T May Try Billing App Makers. It reads like it&#039;s being forced on them, even when Mr. Donovan&#039;s comments suggest otherwise.

Sheesh, read the WSJ article, as in REALLY READ it! C&#039;mon GigaOm, I expect better from your writers. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Donovan is using toll-free as an analogy. Until AT&amp;T reveals full details of the plan, let&#8217;s give him the benefit of the doubt and not call out injustices where none exist.</p>
<p>Toll-free calling is not compulsory for businesses. Of course the caller is not billed either &#8230; unless you&#8217;re using wireless maritime services, at which point you have international roaming charges (but I digress).</p>
<p>In the cited WSJ article, Mr. Donavan refers to the nascent plan as &#8220;a feature that we&#8217;re hoping to have&#8221; and that AT&amp;T would offer an &#8220;incentive to participate&#8221;.</p>
<p>That sounds an awful lot like &#8220;optional&#8221; vs. &#8220;mandatory&#8221; to me.</p>
<p>Just as consumers don&#8217;t pay for toll-free calls, if the analogy holds, then consumers wouldn&#8217;t pay for bandwidth used by toll-free metered apps either.</p>
<p>As for consumer advocate arguments that &#8220;AT&amp;T could stifle competition and shift the playing field toward well-heeled app developers and content providers&#8221; &#8230; by that logic, any telco offering toll-free services has stifled competition and shifted the playing field with every toll-free number they ever issued to a business.</p>
<p>&#8220;By allowing some companies to pay for better services&#8221; is perhaps the WSJ article&#8217;s most egregious leap in logic. Tell me: Where/when did AT&amp;T acknowledge that the bandwidth in this still emerging plan would somehow be of higher quality? Answer: They didn&#8217;t. All I gleaned is that it could be paid for by businesses. Accent on could.</p>
<p>Until AT&amp;T has more exacting info to say about this, don&#8217;t go jumping to fatal conclusions, folks.</p>
<p>The root faux pas here is not with AT&amp;T, but in WSJ&#8217;s misleading headline: AT&amp;T May Try Billing App Makers. It reads like it&#8217;s being forced on them, even when Mr. Donovan&#8217;s comments suggest otherwise.</p>
<p>Sheesh, read the WSJ article, as in REALLY READ it! C&#8217;mon GigaOm, I expect better from your writers. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bennett</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/02/27/atts-mad-mad-plan-to-charge-wireless-app-developers/#comment-814102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretending that some bits are zeroes and some are ones makes a lot of sense, actually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretending that some bits are zeroes and some are ones makes a lot of sense, actually.</p>
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