Comments on: Getting to a gigabit. How Sonic.net will take on caps, residents and AT&T in San Francisco http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/ Tue, 21 May 2013 21:21:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: William http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-820191 Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:48:06 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-820191 Recommend you proceed along a second track for getting buy-in by the City of SF, which could do worse than to follow the lead of Sebastopol (however you got them to agree). You are a Bay Area Company and your access empowers other locals. Celebrate your cabinets in support of art programs, homeless mothers, early childhood development, security enhancements and other community benefits, and not just more too much tv albeit over the web. Let it be AT&T that is seeking to support you, as well, with advance agreement for sharing…and hold them and the other mean giants to support the cabinet celebration in advance and in perpetuity.

]]> By: Joshua Goldbard http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-793254 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:16:26 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-793254 What *SHOULD* happen is a municipal fiber ring laid by the City of San Francisco and operated by a multitude of private companies. That sort of investment is politically impossible.

It’s insane that private companies have to bear the cost of bringing the US into the 21st century. That, however, is the world we live in and with that reality in mind, the benefits of Gigabit to the home outweigh the disadvantages of these above-ground repeaters.

Gigabit internet will dramatically increase the tax base through additional commerce. Faster Internet means more access which always breeds new business and ideas. What better city to lead that charge than the one by the bay?

Cheers,
Joshua

]]> By: dane2 http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-791658 Thu, 05 Jan 2012 22:52:50 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-791658 Infrastructure is a part of modern urban life. You’ll see above ground cabinets and devices which serve many functions: traffic signal control, electric metering, water backflow devices, TV and telephone, etc.

Due to heat and ventilation requirements of equipment, putting it underground is actually much more above-ground impact. Instead of a 2′x4′ cabinet footprint, you end up with a 9′x12′ underground vault, raised ventilation and hatch system, power and more. Unfortunately, undergrounding is not a solution for these devices.

-Dane Jasper
Sonic.net

]]> By: dane2 http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-791654 Thu, 05 Jan 2012 22:48:23 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-791654 We’re building all aerial today, at under $3/linear foot in placement cost, but some additional cost for materials. This means cost per home passed is under $500 per home.

-Dane Jasper
Sonic.net

]]> By: apetra http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-786338 Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:52:43 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-786338 Don’t let a minority of vocal residents make a mockery of ‘community input’. Do it for the children, do it for the next generation of residents. Government is not just for the currently landowning.

]]> By: David Mobley http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-786069 Thu, 29 Dec 2011 06:51:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-786069 why is sonic.net unsustainable? They have a good business model, they have amazing customer service and they’re a fantastic company that I would go back to in a heartbeat if I were in the Bay Area again. I’ve never said that about an ISP ever before.

They even knocked 10 bucks off my monthly bill when they changed rates without me having to ask for it. Ever seen Comcast do that? Nope! Would AT&T voluntarily give you 10 bucks a month back? Nope!

It’s a good company, they deserve the good press.

]]> By: OffBeatMammal http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-786031 Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:23:18 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-786031 cabinets in a hole, access from top would solve the problem.
of course a better long term solution is to push for a coordinated infrastructure plan that puts power, telco etc underground in single, easily accessed conduits…

]]> By: Daniel Eran Dilger http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-786026 Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:18:14 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-786026 “residents of San Francisco have banded together” is a bit of a simplification. There is a small but vocal faction arguing that AT&T shouldn’t be granted a massive windfall of public space to monopolize, particularly given that the City makes it nearly impossible for a cafe owner to put a couple tables on the sidewalk without absurd fees and permitting. The vast majority of the “residents” don’t even know what’s happening, and wouldn’t unless you posted details in ten languages.

]]> By: Victor Long http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-786021 Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:07:24 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-786021 Dude thats jsut downright messed up man.
http://www.privacy-works.tk

]]> By: Mark Kelley http://gigaom.com/2011/12/28/getting-to-a-gigabit-how-sonic-net-will-take-on-caps-residents-and-att-in-san-francisco/#comment-785771 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:20:22 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=457381#comment-785771 The cost to run fiber in many areas can easily exceed $50/linear foot. If the cost is $5K/home passed (all in) that would mean about $18M for the 3500 homes in Sebastapol. If they land 25% of the homes at their $70/month plan that’s still less than $1M/year in gross revenue. Without even looking at their operating costs – did they say they make money with this model?

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