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	<title>Comments on: The tablet boom: Great for Wi-Fi, but not for carriers</title>
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		<title>By: JamesS</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/12/27/the-tablet-boom-great-for-wi-fi-but-not-for-carriers/#comment-791124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JamesS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[imho, I simply must agree.  In addition, data caps will put a serious limit on kids in schools that switch to tablets.

During he next 24 months, superintendents face the perfect delima of &#039;new books&#039; at $1000 per student or subsidized tablets at $400 and a role-of-the dice on &#039;open-souce&#039; written text books, apps and videos.

Suddenly data caps on those $10 broadband plans mandated by the feds for the poor to have at least 2nd rate access to the internet will be meet within a day of getting a tablet and it&#039;s first mandated os upgrade.

The differance betqween have and have nots is about to have a new fondation on whitch to grow; 

data caps = education caps.

paying for packs =  education caps

Caping the poor @ poor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imho, I simply must agree.  In addition, data caps will put a serious limit on kids in schools that switch to tablets.</p>
<p>During he next 24 months, superintendents face the perfect delima of &#8216;new books&#8217; at $1000 per student or subsidized tablets at $400 and a role-of-the dice on &#8216;open-souce&#8217; written text books, apps and videos.</p>
<p>Suddenly data caps on those $10 broadband plans mandated by the feds for the poor to have at least 2nd rate access to the internet will be meet within a day of getting a tablet and it&#8217;s first mandated os upgrade.</p>
<p>The differance betqween have and have nots is about to have a new fondation on whitch to grow; </p>
<p>data caps = education caps.</p>
<p>paying for packs =  education caps</p>
<p>Caping the poor @ poor.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/12/27/the-tablet-boom-great-for-wi-fi-but-not-for-carriers/#comment-788605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 20:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the ISP&#039;s are killin us (ripping us off) with the &quot;pay for packets&quot; approach...we&#039;ve been paying x for y but getting less of y so that we&#039;ll have to pay more..boycott by dropping it altogether and they will see the light - right now, it&#039;s what ever the sheeple will pay !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the ISP&#8217;s are killin us (ripping us off) with the &#8220;pay for packets&#8221; approach&#8230;we&#8217;ve been paying x for y but getting less of y so that we&#8217;ll have to pay more..boycott by dropping it altogether and they will see the light &#8211; right now, it&#8217;s what ever the sheeple will pay !</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fitchard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/12/27/the-tablet-boom-great-for-wi-fi-but-not-for-carriers/#comment-785571</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Fitchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point, Virtuous. I think the operators are using tablets as an excuse to veer away from subsidies. Their logic is that consumers are accustomed to paying full price for tablets in their Wi-Fi-only forms, so why not buck the usual subsidy model and avoid taking an upfront loss on every new customer added? 

The problem is consumers now expect to steep discount when dealing with an operator, and for some reason the difference in price between a 3G/4G tablet and a Wi-Fi is the cost of a new smartphone. I&#039;m not an industrial designer, but I can&#039;t believe it costs $200 to add LTE to the Samsung Tab 10.1. Even after subsidy (and two year contract) its still more expensive to buy the 4G version than the Wi-Fi version. Like you, V, I hardly view that as a deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Virtuous. I think the operators are using tablets as an excuse to veer away from subsidies. Their logic is that consumers are accustomed to paying full price for tablets in their Wi-Fi-only forms, so why not buck the usual subsidy model and avoid taking an upfront loss on every new customer added? </p>
<p>The problem is consumers now expect to steep discount when dealing with an operator, and for some reason the difference in price between a 3G/4G tablet and a Wi-Fi is the cost of a new smartphone. I&#8217;m not an industrial designer, but I can&#8217;t believe it costs $200 to add LTE to the Samsung Tab 10.1. Even after subsidy (and two year contract) its still more expensive to buy the 4G version than the Wi-Fi version. Like you, V, I hardly view that as a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Virtuous</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/12/27/the-tablet-boom-great-for-wi-fi-but-not-for-carriers/#comment-785345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Virtuous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comsumers are rebelling against the exorbitant cost of tablets with data modems and their associated data plans. The meger subsidies carriers offer for tablets with 2-year contracts is hilarious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comsumers are rebelling against the exorbitant cost of tablets with data modems and their associated data plans. The meger subsidies carriers offer for tablets with 2-year contracts is hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: techuntangled</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/12/27/the-tablet-boom-great-for-wi-fi-but-not-for-carriers/#comment-785180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[techuntangled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 04:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the prediction that 95% of tablet traffic will be wifi based seems very very high, I posit that this will be the case. Even in 2011, WiFi-only tablets are outselling cellular tablets by more than 2 to 1....see http://techuntangled.com/cellular-tablets-losing-out-to-wifi-tablets for more]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the prediction that 95% of tablet traffic will be wifi based seems very very high, I posit that this will be the case. Even in 2011, WiFi-only tablets are outselling cellular tablets by more than 2 to 1&#8230;.see <a href="http://techuntangled.com/cellular-tablets-losing-out-to-wifi-tablets" rel="nofollow">http://techuntangled.com/cellular-tablets-losing-out-to-wifi-tablets</a> for more</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fitchard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Fitchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks R, Sarah. Don&#039;t tell my wife. She actually thinks I speak French...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks R, Sarah. Don&#8217;t tell my wife. She actually thinks I speak French&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Campbell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/12/27/the-tablet-boom-great-for-wi-fi-but-not-for-carriers/#comment-784973</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right! Thanks for the heads-up. It&#039;s been fixed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right! Thanks for the heads-up. It&#8217;s been fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: R Compton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R Compton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In your 2nd paragraph I think you mean &quot;without further ado&quot;; &quot;adieu&quot; means &quot;goodbye&quot; in French.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your 2nd paragraph I think you mean &#8220;without further ado&#8221;; &#8220;adieu&#8221; means &#8220;goodbye&#8221; in French.</p>
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