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	<title>Comments on: Indie labels quitting Spotify. Trouble in paradise?</title>
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		<title>By: Alexis Powell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-723828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Powell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 10:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a heavy use of Spotify can I ask do acts get paid more by the premium users per play than the free ones?  I pay £10 a month so I can synch stuff offline and listen to music on the go.  Also I&#039;m starting to think that for the average user this model is a bit of a rip off as they probably won&#039;t add more music a year than they could buy for the £120 sub, especially after they have used the service for a few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a heavy use of Spotify can I ask do acts get paid more by the premium users per play than the free ones?  I pay £10 a month so I can synch stuff offline and listen to music on the go.  Also I&#8217;m starting to think that for the average user this model is a bit of a rip off as they probably won&#8217;t add more music a year than they could buy for the £120 sub, especially after they have used the service for a few years.</p>
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		<title>By: nikitas mantas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-703816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nikitas mantas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indie labels quitting Spotify. Trouble in paradise? http://t.co/w0cDT0nf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indie labels quitting Spotify. Trouble in paradise? <a href="http://t.co/w0cDT0nf" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/w0cDT0nf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fabrizio Galassi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-703829</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fabrizio Galassi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Altro articolo sui problemi delle indie label legati a Spotify: http://t.co/NIxmXKXh #streaming #smm #musica #mercato #soldi #economia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Altro articolo sui problemi delle indie label legati a Spotify: <a href="http://t.co/NIxmXKXh" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/NIxmXKXh</a> #streaming #smm #musica #mercato #soldi #economia</p>
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		<title>By: Mannequin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-703831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mannequin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are quitting Spotify asap - what do you think of?... http://t.co/5Wy1PjFo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are quitting Spotify asap &#8211; what do you think of?&#8230; <a href="http://t.co/5Wy1PjFo" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/5Wy1PjFo</a></p>
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		<title>By: HPR</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-691431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HPR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indie labels quitting Spotify. Trouble in paradise? http://t.co/XLhBhCLJ (From 20 Sept)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indie labels quitting Spotify. Trouble in paradise? <a href="http://t.co/XLhBhCLJ" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/XLhBhCLJ</a> (From 20 Sept)</p>
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		<title>By: OneGoodMinute</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-661801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OneGoodMinute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More details from indie band Uniform Motion on the inner workings and lack of transparency

http://www.indieposit.com/2011/10/04/cutting-edge-technology-built-on-an-ancient-business-model/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More details from indie band Uniform Motion on the inner workings and lack of transparency</p>
<p><a href="http://www.indieposit.com/2011/10/04/cutting-edge-technology-built-on-an-ancient-business-model/" rel="nofollow">http://www.indieposit.com/2011/10/04/cutting-edge-technology-built-on-an-ancient-business-model/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cory Spears</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-657459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cory Spears]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because record sales are the ONLY way for artists to make money. And I love how labels are spinning the whole &quot;theres no income for artists.&quot; What a crock of s**t. ARTISTS: CDBaby/Tunecore is your friend. And the whole thing about music not being recorded the way it should be... has anybody heard how awesome and cheat DIY recordings can be?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because record sales are the ONLY way for artists to make money. And I love how labels are spinning the whole &#8220;theres no income for artists.&#8221; What a crock of s**t. ARTISTS: CDBaby/Tunecore is your friend. And the whole thing about music not being recorded the way it should be&#8230; has anybody heard how awesome and cheat DIY recordings can be?</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Babitts</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-657333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard Babitts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s be honest. Spotify is great for consumers. Not so great for artitsts or indie labels. Don&#039;t try and rationalize it as &quot;promotion&quot; or &quot;like radio&quot; because it isn&#039;t. I will bet that most use of the service is not new music/artists (or about turning people on to new acts via direct promotion or quick sampling). And why should I buy the music if I can pay $10 for Spotify and gorge on all the music I want at any time and place?

Just because we like it as consumers doesn&#039;t make it smart business for artists or labels. Empathize with content creators and you&#039;ll understand their gripes. Not saying they&#039;re on the right side of history but no need to justify our upside by falsely claiming there&#039;s an upside for them.

Just another nail in the coffin of the traditional music business model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest. Spotify is great for consumers. Not so great for artitsts or indie labels. Don&#8217;t try and rationalize it as &#8220;promotion&#8221; or &#8220;like radio&#8221; because it isn&#8217;t. I will bet that most use of the service is not new music/artists (or about turning people on to new acts via direct promotion or quick sampling). And why should I buy the music if I can pay $10 for Spotify and gorge on all the music I want at any time and place?</p>
<p>Just because we like it as consumers doesn&#8217;t make it smart business for artists or labels. Empathize with content creators and you&#8217;ll understand their gripes. Not saying they&#8217;re on the right side of history but no need to justify our upside by falsely claiming there&#8217;s an upside for them.</p>
<p>Just another nail in the coffin of the traditional music business model.</p>
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		<title>By: oo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-657276</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In markets where Spotify has had a presence for years, there have popped up a number of independent playlist based social music discovery sites for Spotify. Some good, some bad. Expect more and better in the future. Do not assume the people at Spotify are unaware of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In markets where Spotify has had a presence for years, there have popped up a number of independent playlist based social music discovery sites for Spotify. Some good, some bad. Expect more and better in the future. Do not assume the people at Spotify are unaware of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Klaproth</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/20/indie-labels-quitting-spotify-trouble-in-paradise/#comment-657192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Klaproth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is 4 cents per album play any different then me buying your CD for $10 bucks on iTunes and then playing it 200 times?  Actually in the end, you make more money when I play your music on Spotify then if I had bought your album and played it hundreds of times, so why the whining and complaining?  You just want to make all that money up front selling cd&#039;s that people will probably only listen to a few times, that&#039;s all... Sorry I don&#039;t have any sympathy, and after all the money isn&#039;t in selling music any more any way, the money is in live performances, some of the most famous musicians like Lady Gaga have even come out and admitted that... So get your music out there, get a huge following and start making that money selling concert tickets and booking gigs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is 4 cents per album play any different then me buying your CD for $10 bucks on iTunes and then playing it 200 times?  Actually in the end, you make more money when I play your music on Spotify then if I had bought your album and played it hundreds of times, so why the whining and complaining?  You just want to make all that money up front selling cd&#8217;s that people will probably only listen to a few times, that&#8217;s all&#8230; Sorry I don&#8217;t have any sympathy, and after all the money isn&#8217;t in selling music any more any way, the money is in live performances, some of the most famous musicians like Lady Gaga have even come out and admitted that&#8230; So get your music out there, get a huge following and start making that money selling concert tickets and booking gigs.</p>
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