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		<title>By: Petri Aukia</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-773952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Petri Aukia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RT @cloud_dennis: Reading: The great debate: Windows Azure vs. Amazon Web Services — Cloud Computing News:  http://t.co/d7qps7Kr]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT @cloud_dennis: Reading: The great debate: Windows Azure vs. Amazon Web Services — Cloud Computing News:  <a href="http://t.co/d7qps7Kr" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/d7qps7Kr</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Plucinik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-773929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Plucinik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading: The great debate: Windows Azure vs. Amazon Web Services — Cloud Computing News:  http://t.co/d7qps7Kr]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading: The great debate: Windows Azure vs. Amazon Web Services — Cloud Computing News:  <a href="http://t.co/d7qps7Kr" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/d7qps7Kr</a></p>
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		<title>By: yolando pereira</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-717129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yolando pereira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AWS Vs Azure Interesting read: http://t.co/rgk0UNYg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AWS Vs Azure Interesting read: <a href="http://t.co/rgk0UNYg" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/rgk0UNYg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Sabesan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Sabesan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The great debate: Windows Azure vs. Amazon Web Services http://t.co/jG83Iaz0]]></description>
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		<title>By: Kurt Heiz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-710363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt Heiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-653495</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you care about vendor locking you should consider a new solution from GigaSpaces called Cloudify. It&#039;s currently in  its beta phase but you start experiencing it.  In a sense it helps you decouple your application from the IaaS vendor, so can easily move your application from AWS to Azure or even private cloud like CloudStack.
Check out - http://www.gigaspaces.com/azure]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you care about vendor locking you should consider a new solution from GigaSpaces called Cloudify. It&#8217;s currently in  its beta phase but you start experiencing it.  In a sense it helps you decouple your application from the IaaS vendor, so can easily move your application from AWS to Azure or even private cloud like CloudStack.<br />
Check out &#8211; <a href="http://www.gigaspaces.com/azure" rel="nofollow">http://www.gigaspaces.com/azure</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Fellows</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-653333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Fellows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You been living in a cave?]]></description>
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		<title>By: Bryan J.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-653320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me start by agreeing with some of the commenters that it’s unfair to make sweeping claims about the .net tools and languages being ill-suited for large scale applications. It seems to me, one would have to be unfamiliar with the .net tools to make a statement like that.

One thing I thought was important that they didn&#039;t touch on is why IaaS matters for some scenarios.
Richardson only really talks about how IaaS can be more flexible and have less lock-in (because you can install any OS or software).
but thats not the whole story..
IaaS is particularilly useful if you are planning to virtualize an existing server infrastructure to the cloud
which is where it really shines.
Knowing that, the key point to selection really should be about what level of abstraction you can deal with. If you need control of the OS and installed applications, you need IaaS (AWS).
If you don&#039;t need control of the OS, you should chose PaaS (Azure) because it reduces the number of things you are responsible for maintaining.
No OS software updates or configuration to worry about (fewer moving parts). 

Both platforms have similar levels of lock-in (which was a big topic)
If you stick to just creating virtual instances in AWS and don&#039;t use any of the data storage services, you have essentially no lock-in (assuming you aren&#039;t using their web services for scaling the number of servers either).
Same with azure, if you only use the web modules, worker modules, and SQL server, you can pretty much take your app back to IIS any time
Once you start using the blob storage and app fabric services, you are somewhat tied to azure
I think they put too much weight on that issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me start by agreeing with some of the commenters that it’s unfair to make sweeping claims about the .net tools and languages being ill-suited for large scale applications. It seems to me, one would have to be unfamiliar with the .net tools to make a statement like that.</p>
<p>One thing I thought was important that they didn&#8217;t touch on is why IaaS matters for some scenarios.<br />
Richardson only really talks about how IaaS can be more flexible and have less lock-in (because you can install any OS or software).<br />
but thats not the whole story..<br />
IaaS is particularilly useful if you are planning to virtualize an existing server infrastructure to the cloud<br />
which is where it really shines.<br />
Knowing that, the key point to selection really should be about what level of abstraction you can deal with. If you need control of the OS and installed applications, you need IaaS (AWS).<br />
If you don&#8217;t need control of the OS, you should chose PaaS (Azure) because it reduces the number of things you are responsible for maintaining.<br />
No OS software updates or configuration to worry about (fewer moving parts). </p>
<p>Both platforms have similar levels of lock-in (which was a big topic)<br />
If you stick to just creating virtual instances in AWS and don&#8217;t use any of the data storage services, you have essentially no lock-in (assuming you aren&#8217;t using their web services for scaling the number of servers either).<br />
Same with azure, if you only use the web modules, worker modules, and SQL server, you can pretty much take your app back to IIS any time<br />
Once you start using the blob storage and app fabric services, you are somewhat tied to azure<br />
I think they put too much weight on that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-653107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 03:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We compared Azure and AWS and choose Azure because the .NET tools (such as Visual Studio 2010) are much better than anything in the open source and Java world. The costs are comparable, you don&#039;t have to manage the platform with Azure, just build your application. Also, .NET has evolved a lot better than the Java world (and I don&#039;t believe for a moment that Java is open source. It was never open source, Sun had full control over it and now that Oracle has bought it, they want to monetize it).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We compared Azure and AWS and choose Azure because the .NET tools (such as Visual Studio 2010) are much better than anything in the open source and Java world. The costs are comparable, you don&#8217;t have to manage the platform with Azure, just build your application. Also, .NET has evolved a lot better than the Java world (and I don&#8217;t believe for a moment that Java is open source. It was never open source, Sun had full control over it and now that Oracle has bought it, they want to monetize it).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrey C.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/09/04/the-great-debate-windows-azure-vs-amazon-web-services/#comment-653026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrey C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MSFT probably didn&#039;t commission this article but this is GigaOm&#039;s way to try to learn more by using people to see what insightful comments they can collect in their comments fish net (in other words, its more of a fishing expedition, don&#039;t be fooled otherwise).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSFT probably didn&#8217;t commission this article but this is GigaOm&#8217;s way to try to learn more by using people to see what insightful comments they can collect in their comments fish net (in other words, its more of a fishing expedition, don&#8217;t be fooled otherwise).</p>
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