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		<title>By: Peter Buytaert</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/08/11/future-of-cloud-computing-more-clouds-seriously/#comment-715256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Buytaert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@kdierc It exists and is called cloudbursting. http://t.co/mSLRqDQu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kdierc It exists and is called cloudbursting. <a href="http://t.co/mSLRqDQu" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/mSLRqDQu</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ofir Nachmani</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/08/11/future-of-cloud-computing-more-clouds-seriously/#comment-647120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ofir Nachmani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great comments .. Those actually prove that &#039;Cloud computing&#039; is now meaningless - http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/its-official-cloud-computing-now-meaningless-169416 ... Most of us talk about it as the IaaS layer some talk about it as the SaaS layer, the term is simply too general. I tend to say that the F report is pretty visionary and there is no doubt that there are no real standards in the market today.. But guys, hold on .. The cloud hype is almost behind us and we are heading to a world with standards .. You will probably ask what ?  Why ? .. 
I have a simple explanation starting with Amazon AWS who started the IaaS market and is a head doing a great job with guiding all the others (just like Apple did with the iPhone) The brokers and web developers should make sure to be create their cloud layer so eventually they will be able to plug &amp; play other IaaS vendor on demand.

Following other specific &quot;marketing comments&quot; I will make my own.. Check &quot;I Am OnDemand&quot; blog - http://www.iamondemand.com

Ofir.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments .. Those actually prove that &#8216;Cloud computing&#8217; is now meaningless &#8211; <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/its-official-cloud-computing-now-meaningless-169416" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/its-official-cloud-computing-now-meaningless-169416</a> &#8230; Most of us talk about it as the IaaS layer some talk about it as the SaaS layer, the term is simply too general. I tend to say that the F report is pretty visionary and there is no doubt that there are no real standards in the market today.. But guys, hold on .. The cloud hype is almost behind us and we are heading to a world with standards .. You will probably ask what ?  Why ? ..<br />
I have a simple explanation starting with Amazon AWS who started the IaaS market and is a head doing a great job with guiding all the others (just like Apple did with the iPhone) The brokers and web developers should make sure to be create their cloud layer so eventually they will be able to plug &amp; play other IaaS vendor on demand.</p>
<p>Following other specific &#8220;marketing comments&#8221; I will make my own.. Check &#8220;I Am OnDemand&#8221; blog &#8211; <a href="http://www.iamondemand.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.iamondemand.com</a></p>
<p>Ofir.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/08/11/future-of-cloud-computing-more-clouds-seriously/#comment-647065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are so many caveats right now of even running simple applications (Like effectively running MS Sequel quick enough through a Cloud Server) that this is a long way off....

Also with hacking on the rise, enterprise CIO&#039;s are very weary of even running a Cloud Server.  I hate to sound like a broken record... but this is the reality.  It&#039;s going to take some time for Private and Public Cloud Vendors to allow traffic to flow from each vendor... Right now it&#039;s very restrictive....  Maybe if standards were made, this could happen but it is going to take a long time...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many caveats right now of even running simple applications (Like effectively running MS Sequel quick enough through a Cloud Server) that this is a long way off&#8230;.</p>
<p>Also with hacking on the rise, enterprise CIO&#8217;s are very weary of even running a Cloud Server.  I hate to sound like a broken record&#8230; but this is the reality.  It&#8217;s going to take some time for Private and Public Cloud Vendors to allow traffic to flow from each vendor&#8230; Right now it&#8217;s very restrictive&#8230;.  Maybe if standards were made, this could happen but it is going to take a long time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Completely agree.  Fundamentally cloud is a service-oriented phenomenon where you are able to access specialised services externally to replace those you might traditionally operate in-house.  The services that businesses are interested in are actually, uh, applications, process templates or complete outsourced business services, however and not infrastructure (which is essentially worthless).  As a result I totally agree that the concept of a &#039;broker&#039; is not that I can take complex, heterogeneous assets with many environmental dependencies and somehow &#039;magically&#039; have them appear on a different infrastructure without losing all of their surrounding context but rather that I can access distributed business services in an integrated way to build extended value chains.  To do this I need companies who will help me select, integrate and operate the complex web of services that I will require to operate a business in the future and to provide me with a single point of support, billing, experience etc.  This much more valuable and business-oriented form of brokerage respects the diversity of services and their implementations and looks at integration at a much higher level of abstraction - avoiding the need to race towards the lowest common denominator of the &quot;VM&quot; for no purpose beyond a lack of imagination from the majority of technology companies and users.

In fact one piece of advice on my blog recently was to:

&quot;Think of IaaS as a tax on delivering value outcomes and try not to let it distract you as people look to make it more complex for no reason (public/private/hybrid/cross hypervisor/VM management/cloud bursting/etc).  It generates so much mental effort for so little business value&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree.  Fundamentally cloud is a service-oriented phenomenon where you are able to access specialised services externally to replace those you might traditionally operate in-house.  The services that businesses are interested in are actually, uh, applications, process templates or complete outsourced business services, however and not infrastructure (which is essentially worthless).  As a result I totally agree that the concept of a &#8216;broker&#8217; is not that I can take complex, heterogeneous assets with many environmental dependencies and somehow &#8216;magically&#8217; have them appear on a different infrastructure without losing all of their surrounding context but rather that I can access distributed business services in an integrated way to build extended value chains.  To do this I need companies who will help me select, integrate and operate the complex web of services that I will require to operate a business in the future and to provide me with a single point of support, billing, experience etc.  This much more valuable and business-oriented form of brokerage respects the diversity of services and their implementations and looks at integration at a much higher level of abstraction &#8211; avoiding the need to race towards the lowest common denominator of the &#8220;VM&#8221; for no purpose beyond a lack of imagination from the majority of technology companies and users.</p>
<p>In fact one piece of advice on my blog recently was to:</p>
<p>&#8220;Think of IaaS as a tax on delivering value outcomes and try not to let it distract you as people look to make it more complex for no reason (public/private/hybrid/cross hypervisor/VM management/cloud bursting/etc).  It generates so much mental effort for so little business value&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: George Hadjiyanis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/08/11/future-of-cloud-computing-more-clouds-seriously/#comment-646766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Hadjiyanis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stacey,  

I would love to chat with your about cloud bursting and the fact that it is available today.  

enStratus has a cloud bursting solution including bursting between any of the 18 private and public clouds we support. 

For example, you can create an automated deployment and have first 100 VMs for your application begin in the private cloud and the 101st VM and beyond burst into the public cloud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacey,  </p>
<p>I would love to chat with your about cloud bursting and the fact that it is available today.  </p>
<p>enStratus has a cloud bursting solution including bursting between any of the 18 private and public clouds we support. </p>
<p>For example, you can create an automated deployment and have first 100 VMs for your application begin in the private cloud and the 101st VM and beyond burst into the public cloud.</p>
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		<title>By: wanda</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/08/11/future-of-cloud-computing-more-clouds-seriously/#comment-646758</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wanda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are sure this could really happen. what a twist in cloud computing trends this would be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are sure this could really happen. what a twist in cloud computing trends this would be.</p>
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		<title>By: Razi Sharir</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/08/11/future-of-cloud-computing-more-clouds-seriously/#comment-646757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Razi Sharir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cloud brokerage assumes that all the services are cloud agnostic.  While in theory this could happen (if all adopt the same APIs and standards), this is still somewhat distant…
At Xeround we offer a cloud agnostic Database-as-a-Service for MySQL based applications on Amazon, Rackspace and other will follow shortly.  
Unfortunately, even the pay-per-use pricing model is far from being supported; world is still behind with image-based service, tiered based pricing, let anone brokerage of anything, anywhere, anytime...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud brokerage assumes that all the services are cloud agnostic.  While in theory this could happen (if all adopt the same APIs and standards), this is still somewhat distant…<br />
At Xeround we offer a cloud agnostic Database-as-a-Service for MySQL based applications on Amazon, Rackspace and other will follow shortly.<br />
Unfortunately, even the pay-per-use pricing model is far from being supported; world is still behind with image-based service, tiered based pricing, let anone brokerage of anything, anywhere, anytime&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/08/11/future-of-cloud-computing-more-clouds-seriously/#comment-646687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cloud computing sounds unsecure to enterprise ear&#039;s... I am sorry to tell that, but this article and the nice graphs it is just another try to keep the wheel turning. A marketer with no idea just got a couple of concepts from a technician pushed to something &quot;new&quot; and ended maken a photoshop. Great job!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud computing sounds unsecure to enterprise ear&#8217;s&#8230; I am sorry to tell that, but this article and the nice graphs it is just another try to keep the wheel turning. A marketer with no idea just got a couple of concepts from a technician pushed to something &#8220;new&#8221; and ended maken a photoshop. Great job!!</p>
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		<title>By: victor shi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[victor shi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pretty good! my company have planned to establish a cloud computing center in a second-tier city of china PR. too much IT service providers thought there is no boundaries to cloud computing, in a sense, it do have no technical boundaries, but it do has saleservice boundaries. it is hard for a service provider to cover much more Accounter although its IDC has enough resource and capabilities. as an International corporation ， how to make your China strategy is more important than technical application. in front of you , is  a huge blue ocean market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pretty good! my company have planned to establish a cloud computing center in a second-tier city of china PR. too much IT service providers thought there is no boundaries to cloud computing, in a sense, it do have no technical boundaries, but it do has saleservice boundaries. it is hard for a service provider to cover much more Accounter although its IDC has enough resource and capabilities. as an International corporation ， how to make your China strategy is more important than technical application. in front of you , is  a huge blue ocean market.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/08/11/future-of-cloud-computing-more-clouds-seriously/#comment-646608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn`t this interoperability fix what VMware have been trying to do with vCloud and vCloud Director? i.e. it is a reality already, albeit in early days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn`t this interoperability fix what VMware have been trying to do with vCloud and vCloud Director? i.e. it is a reality already, albeit in early days.</p>
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