Comments on: Is Cisco on the Outs With EMC, VMware? http://gigaom.com/2011/05/19/is-cisco-on-the-outs-with-emc-vmware/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:04:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: CCIEx2 http://gigaom.com/2011/05/19/is-cisco-on-the-outs-with-emc-vmware/#comment-647989 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:09:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=347579#comment-647989 VA, It’s called cleaning house of the bottom percentages needed. There is no place for folks with narrow minded opinions such as yourself. Using one subject/discussion as a platform to inject your worthless statement that’s without merit. I’m sorry if you’re bitter because you fell within that 4000, but it’s always been known for Cisco to “clean house” to ensure they only employ the best in the business. Aside from normal house cleaning, this is a very tough economy like no other times, they still have no debt, and make investments with CASH, investing is risky business, some fail, because of your statement, cisco will not loose a dollar. No VA, not one dollar, your attempt failed. Send resume to HP, some of their internal FUD doc’s lack about the same merit.

]]> By: Jason http://gigaom.com/2011/05/19/is-cisco-on-the-outs-with-emc-vmware/#comment-628465 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:58:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=347579#comment-628465 You’re a wise man Markus and have hit the nail on the head exactly…

]]> By: Markus http://gigaom.com/2011/05/19/is-cisco-on-the-outs-with-emc-vmware/#comment-628272 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:20:52 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=347579#comment-628272 Hi Derrick,
I agree on Stu that Cisco is targeting as much as possible Routes to market. The Cisco Strategy is since ever to become one of the Top 3 in each Market segment they enter, that was always John Chambers directive.
The invest in VCE that is a Joint Venture for Cisco means only one part of the strategy, as it is with Flexpod. Also with Flexpod they don’t sell more Servers. They only leverage more people arguing for their products.
Cisco also has invested in Vmware and holds a minimal stake.
Nothing new to me as Cisco always acted in that way, look at theri different technology Areas. They always built that strong eco system with co-opetition.
The clear battleground is to push Dell, HP and IBM Servers by side and become Nr.1 in the Server Business. They always tried to be everybodys darling in that perspective.

]]> By: VA http://gigaom.com/2011/05/19/is-cisco-on-the-outs-with-emc-vmware/#comment-628212 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 00:31:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=347579#comment-628212 Cisco entered last year with 30 market adjacencies and acquired companies in video, cable etc. etc. all across the globe. Obviously they didnt manange it very well and as a result they are laying off some 4000 people plus dumping few of their recent acquisitions.

]]> By: kosh http://gigaom.com/2011/05/19/is-cisco-on-the-outs-with-emc-vmware/#comment-628198 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:21:36 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=347579#comment-628198 It’s simpler than that. EMC are on the east coast, whilst NetApp and Cisco are 10 minutes down the street from each other. Moreover, their engineers get on better with one another since they have similar internal cultures (Unix/Internet/Open systems & protocols).

To put it simply, Cisco and EMC were a fake couple from the outset. Like a Hollywood marriage, it was only the PR/marketing people who cared about it.

Cisco’s biggest tech wart right now is the reliance on Windows for their Contact Centre systems, which causes severe deployment headaches. VMware is only valuable because Windows stinks at multiple application hosting.

]]> By: Derrick Harris http://gigaom.com/2011/05/19/is-cisco-on-the-outs-with-emc-vmware/#comment-625420 Thu, 19 May 2011 22:31:01 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=347579#comment-625420 Stu,

Thanks for the comment. I think you’re right that coopetition is the name of the game overall, but when it comes to the servers and storage, Cisco has an advantage in that it doesn’t have years of history selling either. If it really is upset with the revenue split in VCE, and if it really is eyeing a storage or virtualization acquisition, like I’ve been told, I think Cisco would be happy to sell its own VCE-style architecture. It shouldn’t be too difficult to absorb into an almost-equally-as-new server business.

Whatever happens, I think you’re right that everyone realizes they need each other to maximize sales.

]]> By: Stuart Miniman http://gigaom.com/2011/05/19/is-cisco-on-the-outs-with-emc-vmware/#comment-625397 Thu, 19 May 2011 21:00:39 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=347579#comment-625397 Derrick,
I’m sure you’re familiar with the term co-opetition. Cisco (and NetApp) are heavily invested in VMware. Sure they (and even EMC) will work with Hyper-V and Xen, just as VMW works with other networking and storage vendors. FlexPod is doing well, so is VCE and Cisco is heavily leveraging both storage company’s direct sales forces and channels to help sell servers. I wrote more here: http://wikibon.org/wiki/v/Convergence_Moves_Up_the_Stack_to_Applications_and_Greater_IT_Efficiency
Cheers,
Stu
Wikibon.org
Twitter: @stu

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