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	<title>Comments on: Google&#8217;s Victory is Not Apple&#8217;s Defeat</title>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/05/11/googles-victory-is-not-apples-defeat/#comment-624200</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dirk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These stats and projections are b.s. I am now reading predictions that Windows Phone 7 will beat them all (ha ha).

Just Google &quot;OS market share&quot; and look at netmarketshare.com and icrossing.com. These statistics are based on HUGE sample sizes without the paid bias of Gartner, Nielsen, and the CBS cabal.

The accurate studies show what anyone would expect -- iOS has 4 times the market share of Android. Why do the other studies lie? They are manufacturing consent... CBS, in particular, has a huge and obvious bias toward Android. They own CNET, Tech Republic, and Ziff Davis. They use these as agents of manufactured consent.

At the Google I/O conference, they said they sold a total of 100m Android phones. Apple has sold 200m -- just iPhones. Then you have to add iPod touch and iPad to those numbers, because they all run the same OS. This is just more solid proof that iOS has 4 times the market share...

More proof? Every article touting Droid domination has dozens of iOS users commenting on how this is obvious B.S. The Droid Axis can manufacture consent all they want... Consumers still buy iOS devices more than Droid. All other data is based on flawed sampling and intentional shilling for Google.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These stats and projections are b.s. I am now reading predictions that Windows Phone 7 will beat them all (ha ha).</p>
<p>Just Google &#8220;OS market share&#8221; and look at netmarketshare.com and icrossing.com. These statistics are based on HUGE sample sizes without the paid bias of Gartner, Nielsen, and the CBS cabal.</p>
<p>The accurate studies show what anyone would expect &#8212; iOS has 4 times the market share of Android. Why do the other studies lie? They are manufacturing consent&#8230; CBS, in particular, has a huge and obvious bias toward Android. They own CNET, Tech Republic, and Ziff Davis. They use these as agents of manufactured consent.</p>
<p>At the Google I/O conference, they said they sold a total of 100m Android phones. Apple has sold 200m &#8212; just iPhones. Then you have to add iPod touch and iPad to those numbers, because they all run the same OS. This is just more solid proof that iOS has 4 times the market share&#8230;</p>
<p>More proof? Every article touting Droid domination has dozens of iOS users commenting on how this is obvious B.S. The Droid Axis can manufacture consent all they want&#8230; Consumers still buy iOS devices more than Droid. All other data is based on flawed sampling and intentional shilling for Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnesota Steve</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/05/11/googles-victory-is-not-apples-defeat/#comment-624092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Minnesota Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 02:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chriet, what is the openness of Android that people see?  I know there are hard core users on the Apple and Android side who this matters to.  But for the average consumer, those who make up the vast majority of buyers, what helps them make a decision?  Openness?  It appears to be just a good &#039;ol rock-em sock-em market brawl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chriet, what is the openness of Android that people see?  I know there are hard core users on the Apple and Android side who this matters to.  But for the average consumer, those who make up the vast majority of buyers, what helps them make a decision?  Openness?  It appears to be just a good &#8216;ol rock-em sock-em market brawl.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hill</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/05/11/googles-victory-is-not-apples-defeat/#comment-623868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 02:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles, Android is already dropping in market share and is far from demonstrating it will crush iOS any time soon.

For the first time since Android began it&#039;s break-neck growth, NPD&#039;s most recent data shows that Android&#039;s share of the US smartphone market dropped quarter-to-quarter from 53% to 50% in Q1 2011.  That&#039;s a -6% growth rate for all those Android fans enamoured with &quot;growth rate&quot; percentages.  ;-)

In contrast Apple&#039;s iPhone grew 115% to capture 28% of all smartphone sales in the USA thanks to the launch of the iPhone on Verizon.  With upcoming rumoured CDMA iPhone launches in China and possible availability on T-Mobile in the USA and the release of the iPhone 5 later in the year, this will only increase.

So yes Android is doing well in smartphone unit sales, but in terms of the big picture it is not nearly so cut and dried and I think predictions of market dominance at this point are premature. 

-Mart]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, Android is already dropping in market share and is far from demonstrating it will crush iOS any time soon.</p>
<p>For the first time since Android began it&#8217;s break-neck growth, NPD&#8217;s most recent data shows that Android&#8217;s share of the US smartphone market dropped quarter-to-quarter from 53% to 50% in Q1 2011.  That&#8217;s a -6% growth rate for all those Android fans enamoured with &#8220;growth rate&#8221; percentages.  ;-)</p>
<p>In contrast Apple&#8217;s iPhone grew 115% to capture 28% of all smartphone sales in the USA thanks to the launch of the iPhone on Verizon.  With upcoming rumoured CDMA iPhone launches in China and possible availability on T-Mobile in the USA and the release of the iPhone 5 later in the year, this will only increase.</p>
<p>So yes Android is doing well in smartphone unit sales, but in terms of the big picture it is not nearly so cut and dried and I think predictions of market dominance at this point are premature. </p>
<p>-Mart</p>
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		<title>By: ricazoid</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ricazoid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 13:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[actually the nexus one and nexus s are made by google, so google did sell phones but nexuses aren&#039;t very popular(i may be wrong)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually the nexus one and nexus s are made by google, so google did sell phones but nexuses aren&#8217;t very popular(i may be wrong)</p>
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		<title>By: Chriet Titulaer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/05/11/googles-victory-is-not-apples-defeat/#comment-623692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chriet Titulaer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 09:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple does seem to have dropped the ball on the HTML5 front though. While MS is working really hard to prove HTML5 works best in IE9, it&#039;s Google that is really taking HTML5 to new levels. Combined with the fact that people are starting to see how much more open Android is, this might very well result in a huge popularity loss for Apple&#039;s devices and iOS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple does seem to have dropped the ball on the HTML5 front though. While MS is working really hard to prove HTML5 works best in IE9, it&#8217;s Google that is really taking HTML5 to new levels. Combined with the fact that people are starting to see how much more open Android is, this might very well result in a huge popularity loss for Apple&#8217;s devices and iOS.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Jade</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/05/11/googles-victory-is-not-apples-defeat/#comment-623607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Jade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 01:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the correction on the iPhone total, and I admit to &quot;squishing&quot; momentary rates of activation for Android in with Apple&#039;s quarterly totals for iOS, but only because the trend is clear. Not even impossible quarters for Apple and iOS going forward can stop Android from leaving iOS behind. Apple just can&#039;t keep up with Google by itself, though perhaps combined with other competitors Android can be stopped from achieving the kind of market share dominance on mobile devices that Microsoft Windows has with traditional computers. According to IDC, Windows Phone, iOS, and BlackBerry OS will account for half the world smartphone market by 2015 and be ranked in that order after Android, but I&#039;m skeptical on what would cause Android to falter between now and then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction on the iPhone total, and I admit to &#8220;squishing&#8221; momentary rates of activation for Android in with Apple&#8217;s quarterly totals for iOS, but only because the trend is clear. Not even impossible quarters for Apple and iOS going forward can stop Android from leaving iOS behind. Apple just can&#8217;t keep up with Google by itself, though perhaps combined with other competitors Android can be stopped from achieving the kind of market share dominance on mobile devices that Microsoft Windows has with traditional computers. According to IDC, Windows Phone, iOS, and BlackBerry OS will account for half the world smartphone market by 2015 and be ranked in that order after Android, but I&#8217;m skeptical on what would cause Android to falter between now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hill</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/05/11/googles-victory-is-not-apples-defeat/#comment-623589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 00:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a few corrections on your figures Charles.

Apple sold 18.7 million iPhones last quarter not 16.2 and 61% of iPods sold are now iPod touches so that makes 6.1 million. 

As a result, Apple sold 29.5 million iOS devices last quarter or 317,000 per day on average in Q1.  Apple actually sold 400,000 iOS devices per day during November and December last year thanks to the Christmas surge.

Also, note that Google&#039;s figure of 400,000 per day is the current rate, not averaged over the whole quarter so you are on thin ice making too many direct comparisons.

Apple also has an installed base of 187 million iOS devices against Google&#039;s 100 million Android devices.  ComScore confirmed this fact when it reported a week or so ago that Apple&#039;s iOS market share is 59% larger than Android in the USA and 116% larger in Europe. 

In addition comparing the ramp-up of Android to iOS is also fraught with issues considering Apple was establishing and legitimizing the market while Google was filling in the staggering hunger of iphone-less carriers for an iPhone substitute. 

-Mart]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few corrections on your figures Charles.</p>
<p>Apple sold 18.7 million iPhones last quarter not 16.2 and 61% of iPods sold are now iPod touches so that makes 6.1 million. </p>
<p>As a result, Apple sold 29.5 million iOS devices last quarter or 317,000 per day on average in Q1.  Apple actually sold 400,000 iOS devices per day during November and December last year thanks to the Christmas surge.</p>
<p>Also, note that Google&#8217;s figure of 400,000 per day is the current rate, not averaged over the whole quarter so you are on thin ice making too many direct comparisons.</p>
<p>Apple also has an installed base of 187 million iOS devices against Google&#8217;s 100 million Android devices.  ComScore confirmed this fact when it reported a week or so ago that Apple&#8217;s iOS market share is 59% larger than Android in the USA and 116% larger in Europe. </p>
<p>In addition comparing the ramp-up of Android to iOS is also fraught with issues considering Apple was establishing and legitimizing the market while Google was filling in the staggering hunger of iphone-less carriers for an iPhone substitute. </p>
<p>-Mart</p>
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		<title>By: Mart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 23:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes but Microsoft also actually got paid for each copy sold and made megabucks in the process.  Google makes nothing on each Android device sold. Ad revenue doesn&#039;t make up the difference particularly with carriers like Verizon replacing google search with Bing.

-Mart]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but Microsoft also actually got paid for each copy sold and made megabucks in the process.  Google makes nothing on each Android device sold. Ad revenue doesn&#8217;t make up the difference particularly with carriers like Verizon replacing google search with Bing.</p>
<p>-Mart</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Jade</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Jade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 23:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without cloud syncing for documents through iWork.com or some other means, I&#039;ll be disappointed even if iWork &#039;12 is there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without cloud syncing for documents through iWork.com or some other means, I&#8217;ll be disappointed even if iWork &#8217;12 is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Jade</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/05/11/googles-victory-is-not-apples-defeat/#comment-623578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Jade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 23:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Microsoft never sold a single PC, and we all know how that worked out for the Mac in the late 90&#039;s. It&#039;s not that history is repeating itself, exactly, in that this time iOS has reached the point where it can be self-sustaining despite Android&#039;s market share dominance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft never sold a single PC, and we all know how that worked out for the Mac in the late 90&#8242;s. It&#8217;s not that history is repeating itself, exactly, in that this time iOS has reached the point where it can be self-sustaining despite Android&#8217;s market share dominance.</p>
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