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	<title>Comments on: Note to Media: Don&#8217;t Fight Zite, Learn From It</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/31/note-to-media-dont-fight-zite-learn-from-it/#comment-615126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that media companies need to start following the lead of the Guardian in the UK. They allow their content to be distributed through other applications through their API licensing. NPR do the same thing. The BBC experimented with this also with backstage but have since shut it down.  As far as i know the condition is that if you scoop the full article you must 1)link to the website and 2) include their adverts. 

Hopefully we will see more companies follow this example. It time for them to start thinking about how they can extract value from single articles rather than through their site. 

There are tons of great content out there. If media companies dont want to promote their content through apps like Flipboard, Zite, Pulse and &amp; PressJack then they will lose more audience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that media companies need to start following the lead of the Guardian in the UK. They allow their content to be distributed through other applications through their API licensing. NPR do the same thing. The BBC experimented with this also with backstage but have since shut it down.  As far as i know the condition is that if you scoop the full article you must 1)link to the website and 2) include their adverts. </p>
<p>Hopefully we will see more companies follow this example. It time for them to start thinking about how they can extract value from single articles rather than through their site. </p>
<p>There are tons of great content out there. If media companies dont want to promote their content through apps like Flipboard, Zite, Pulse and &amp; PressJack then they will lose more audience.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/31/note-to-media-dont-fight-zite-learn-from-it/#comment-613906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would pay for the zite source code, complete a DIY, and gladly enjoy the app forever more. Those in opposition to zite definitely grasp the point and are going to need to come to terms with a loss in ad revenue from traditional traffic channels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would pay for the zite source code, complete a DIY, and gladly enjoy the app forever more. Those in opposition to zite definitely grasp the point and are going to need to come to terms with a loss in ad revenue from traditional traffic channels.</p>
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		<title>By: T.Petra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T.Petra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, but even though newspapers are losing money with their print entities, they are still paying salaries to transition to online, while also maintaining news rooms with reporters, etc ...

What Zite is doing is stealing the content that a news organization either creates through their own resources, or pays for as part of a syndication fee.

For example, if Gannett wants to us the AP news feed for Iowa, they pay an agreed upon $ per month.

Why should Zite be absolved of playing by the same rules?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but even though newspapers are losing money with their print entities, they are still paying salaries to transition to online, while also maintaining news rooms with reporters, etc &#8230;</p>
<p>What Zite is doing is stealing the content that a news organization either creates through their own resources, or pays for as part of a syndication fee.</p>
<p>For example, if Gannett wants to us the AP news feed for Iowa, they pay an agreed upon $ per month.</p>
<p>Why should Zite be absolved of playing by the same rules?</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points Ian. And I don&#039;t really think going after aggregators is productive. But notice that even you lapsed into vagueness when it was time to get prescriptive...

&quot;There’s an obvious third option, which is to embrace the new possibilities afforded by new form factors and reading habits, and to stop thinking about how to fit a 19th-century business model to the present. And of course, to do it well and charge for it.&quot;

We need to get beyond phrases like &quot;...embrace the new possibilities afforded by new form factors and reading habits...&quot; and start actually getting specific. More than anything, that&#039;s my point. If  I was a publisher reading that I&#039;d have no idea of what you think I should actually DO. Could a publisher create something like Flipboard or Zite? Sure. Publishers with a variety of media properties could do that and make it interesting even. Would people pay for it? Some would be something, yes. Would people pay enough to come close to current revenues? I doubt it. Aside from the structure of the payment scheme, look at how many people are saying that $35 for the top tier of the NYT subscription is too expensive. Mind you most of them pay more for their morning coffee... but it&#039;s too much. So, yes, people will pay, but not more than a nominal amount. Netflix? $8. HuluPlus? $5-10 last I checked. 

To sum up - I&#039;m not arguing that publishers are doing the right things. I&#039;m arguing that commentators and analysts who decry what they are doing need to stop talking in vague terms or that we all need to admit that the next step isn&#039;t, in fact, all that easy or obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Ian. And I don&#8217;t really think going after aggregators is productive. But notice that even you lapsed into vagueness when it was time to get prescriptive&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;There’s an obvious third option, which is to embrace the new possibilities afforded by new form factors and reading habits, and to stop thinking about how to fit a 19th-century business model to the present. And of course, to do it well and charge for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>We need to get beyond phrases like &#8220;&#8230;embrace the new possibilities afforded by new form factors and reading habits&#8230;&#8221; and start actually getting specific. More than anything, that&#8217;s my point. If  I was a publisher reading that I&#8217;d have no idea of what you think I should actually DO. Could a publisher create something like Flipboard or Zite? Sure. Publishers with a variety of media properties could do that and make it interesting even. Would people pay for it? Some would be something, yes. Would people pay enough to come close to current revenues? I doubt it. Aside from the structure of the payment scheme, look at how many people are saying that $35 for the top tier of the NYT subscription is too expensive. Mind you most of them pay more for their morning coffee&#8230; but it&#8217;s too much. So, yes, people will pay, but not more than a nominal amount. Netflix? $8. HuluPlus? $5-10 last I checked. </p>
<p>To sum up &#8211; I&#8217;m not arguing that publishers are doing the right things. I&#8217;m arguing that commentators and analysts who decry what they are doing need to stop talking in vague terms or that we all need to admit that the next step isn&#8217;t, in fact, all that easy or obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Tjj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tjj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to worry anything I click on that takes me to a web site I immediately click a finger down. So web sites that I MAY have gone to independently will not see me nor get any revenue. I hope they are happy with this business model!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to worry anything I click on that takes me to a web site I immediately click a finger down. So web sites that I MAY have gone to independently will not see me nor get any revenue. I hope they are happy with this business model!</p>
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		<title>By: Roman Karachinsky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roman Karachinsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that everyone saw this coming once they realized Zite was using the full text of the articles in their app. The current situation is a little ridiculous - the publishers &quot;tolerate&quot; a certain amount of infringement, but once you step over this unspoken line, you get a c&amp;d letter in the mail. The changing times force them to be more and more tolerant (remember how everyone sued Google News back in 2005 for excerpts and thumbnails?), but there is no model emerging for them to fall back on as they keep giving more and more content away.

I wrote a blog post on this yesterday to examine the problem in more detail, and explain how News360 is addressing this - http://blog.news360app.com/?p=22

I think the fact that nobody has had any success creating a way to work with the publishers to create a better less-cluttered reading experience that still monetizes well goes to show that there is no &quot;easy&quot; solution. Partnering with specific publishers, as Flipboard is doing, may work short-term, but the large media are still very reluctant to give up control of their content and readers this easily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that everyone saw this coming once they realized Zite was using the full text of the articles in their app. The current situation is a little ridiculous &#8211; the publishers &#8220;tolerate&#8221; a certain amount of infringement, but once you step over this unspoken line, you get a c&amp;d letter in the mail. The changing times force them to be more and more tolerant (remember how everyone sued Google News back in 2005 for excerpts and thumbnails?), but there is no model emerging for them to fall back on as they keep giving more and more content away.</p>
<p>I wrote a blog post on this yesterday to examine the problem in more detail, and explain how News360 is addressing this &#8211; <a href="http://blog.news360app.com/?p=22" rel="nofollow">http://blog.news360app.com/?p=22</a></p>
<p>I think the fact that nobody has had any success creating a way to work with the publishers to create a better less-cluttered reading experience that still monetizes well goes to show that there is no &#8220;easy&#8221; solution. Partnering with specific publishers, as Flipboard is doing, may work short-term, but the large media are still very reluctant to give up control of their content and readers this easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Freishtat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/31/note-to-media-dont-fight-zite-learn-from-it/#comment-613534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg Freishtat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. However, I think there is a model which will be essential for the reassembly of the dislocated publishing business model. Publishers (news and others) need to quite literally become the point of discovery for their consumers. By allowing Google, Facebook, Twitter and others to be the &quot;point of discover&quot; publishers are relegated to brief visits with the consumer eventually hitting the &quot;back button&quot; to fly out and then into multiple sites to discover what they want. Sites like Zite, Flipboard, HuffPo, etc change this paradigm because they present a far greater selection of content and deploy algorithms to determine how to organize and present it. These new sites are better at being the point of discovery b/c they are not limited by the quantity of content they can afford to produce organically.

New models and technologies (infrastructure really) are emerging to solve these issues for publishers. In this emerging paradigm, publishers can frictionlessly bring in content (full length article, photo and video) from a limitless number of sites across the web. This curation can be fully automated or completely manual depending up the business model and brand goals of a site. This mean that consumers can now explore or discover a potion of the web through the lens of the publisher rather than having to leave the publisher to find all they want. The other side of this coin is that publishers can make the economics of the new digital world work by only monetizing their content from those consumers they can coax to their site at any one time. Publishers must monetize their content where that content is in demand and there is someone willing to both pay for it and follow the guidelines established by any publisher. To accomplish all this two things are required a Digital Curation Platform (enable publishers to curate content in and authorize content out) and a Partner Management Platfrom (enables publishers to fire up or wind down partnerships regarding the use of content with the same ease as accepting a friend on Facebook.

In full disclosure, this is exactly what we have been working on for the past two years with some rather shocking success.... We call it Content Logistix.

Gregg Freishtat
CEO, Vertical Acuity]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. However, I think there is a model which will be essential for the reassembly of the dislocated publishing business model. Publishers (news and others) need to quite literally become the point of discovery for their consumers. By allowing Google, Facebook, Twitter and others to be the &#8220;point of discover&#8221; publishers are relegated to brief visits with the consumer eventually hitting the &#8220;back button&#8221; to fly out and then into multiple sites to discover what they want. Sites like Zite, Flipboard, HuffPo, etc change this paradigm because they present a far greater selection of content and deploy algorithms to determine how to organize and present it. These new sites are better at being the point of discovery b/c they are not limited by the quantity of content they can afford to produce organically.</p>
<p>New models and technologies (infrastructure really) are emerging to solve these issues for publishers. In this emerging paradigm, publishers can frictionlessly bring in content (full length article, photo and video) from a limitless number of sites across the web. This curation can be fully automated or completely manual depending up the business model and brand goals of a site. This mean that consumers can now explore or discover a potion of the web through the lens of the publisher rather than having to leave the publisher to find all they want. The other side of this coin is that publishers can make the economics of the new digital world work by only monetizing their content from those consumers they can coax to their site at any one time. Publishers must monetize their content where that content is in demand and there is someone willing to both pay for it and follow the guidelines established by any publisher. To accomplish all this two things are required a Digital Curation Platform (enable publishers to curate content in and authorize content out) and a Partner Management Platfrom (enables publishers to fire up or wind down partnerships regarding the use of content with the same ease as accepting a friend on Facebook.</p>
<p>In full disclosure, this is exactly what we have been working on for the past two years with some rather shocking success&#8230;. We call it Content Logistix.</p>
<p>Gregg Freishtat<br />
CEO, Vertical Acuity</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/31/note-to-media-dont-fight-zite-learn-from-it/#comment-613438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew Ingram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And we appreciate that, John  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we appreciate that, John  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/31/note-to-media-dont-fight-zite-learn-from-it/#comment-613437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew Ingram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said, Ian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Ian.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/31/note-to-media-dont-fight-zite-learn-from-it/#comment-613414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew Ingram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You could well be right, although that distinction seems so arcane as to make no legal sense whatsoever. I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re wrong, by the way -- just saying those two approaches are fundamentally identical in every way that matters (unless you are a lawyer).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could well be right, although that distinction seems so arcane as to make no legal sense whatsoever. I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re wrong, by the way &#8212; just saying those two approaches are fundamentally identical in every way that matters (unless you are a lawyer).</p>
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