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	<title>Comments on: The Race to Build a PageRank for the Social Web Continues</title>
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		<title>By: Enrico Montana</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-604582</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Enrico Montana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 03:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mathew—

Thanks for the great article.  I’ll be interested to watch where these approaches evolve.  Media channels have different purposes, and cater to audiences in very different ways.  Influence in any one channel may not equate or support influence in another.  For example, having well informed answers on a Q&amp;A site doesn’t automatically give that user recommendation power on where to go or what to buy.   Behaviorally, having an advocacy Influence is not the same as being a message Propagator or information Sharer.   Should we be building complexity into what we all have been calling Influence, or is it time we start tailoring different measures to the outcomes we need, as well as separating these active behaviors from the segmentation aspects of finding people in the right context?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathew—</p>
<p>Thanks for the great article.  I’ll be interested to watch where these approaches evolve.  Media channels have different purposes, and cater to audiences in very different ways.  Influence in any one channel may not equate or support influence in another.  For example, having well informed answers on a Q&amp;A site doesn’t automatically give that user recommendation power on where to go or what to buy.   Behaviorally, having an advocacy Influence is not the same as being a message Propagator or information Sharer.   Should we be building complexity into what we all have been calling Influence, or is it time we start tailoring different measures to the outcomes we need, as well as separating these active behaviors from the segmentation aspects of finding people in the right context?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine S</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-604302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristine S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with Klout and not sure about Peer Index is they only look at positive measures, but not outliers. IE they do not know how to differentiate scammers. If you Google &quot;Twitter Twerps&quot; these guys are known scammers when it comes to their Klout scores, they bot, they create accounts to rt themselves, they rt each other constantly. The created hash tags to hide the bots and they even talk to the bots that mention them (on one day you could see two bots say the exact same thing inc ~ and ^^ in the tweet and yet they have a Klout score of over 60. 

People have reported them to Klout, Klout has done nothing. Why does this matter? Because they get free stuff. Lots of free stuff because of this. Free rooms at 5 star hotel chains. Free food, free cruises, free shows, free this and free that because of this score. 

So, I think unfortunately until these companies can start accounting for the scammers (ie profiles that seem to good to be true and this one has definite indicators such as gaining 20k followers in a month with no public reason for that to be so) They have limited capability. 

Also they are too sensitive. If I get sick, or in one case went to China with no access, or Twitter does no feed data (my RTs and Mentions for 2 weeks) my score has know seeming knowledge of the last year and it drops dramatically. There should be a score this X timeframe and an average over X time frame. 

So until these companies get better at IDing the spam, the scam and offer some method of dealing w short periods of time where info is not typical I fear they are limited in their capability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Klout and not sure about Peer Index is they only look at positive measures, but not outliers. IE they do not know how to differentiate scammers. If you Google &#8220;Twitter Twerps&#8221; these guys are known scammers when it comes to their Klout scores, they bot, they create accounts to rt themselves, they rt each other constantly. The created hash tags to hide the bots and they even talk to the bots that mention them (on one day you could see two bots say the exact same thing inc ~ and ^^ in the tweet and yet they have a Klout score of over 60. </p>
<p>People have reported them to Klout, Klout has done nothing. Why does this matter? Because they get free stuff. Lots of free stuff because of this. Free rooms at 5 star hotel chains. Free food, free cruises, free shows, free this and free that because of this score. </p>
<p>So, I think unfortunately until these companies can start accounting for the scammers (ie profiles that seem to good to be true and this one has definite indicators such as gaining 20k followers in a month with no public reason for that to be so) They have limited capability. </p>
<p>Also they are too sensitive. If I get sick, or in one case went to China with no access, or Twitter does no feed data (my RTs and Mentions for 2 weeks) my score has know seeming knowledge of the last year and it drops dramatically. There should be a score this X timeframe and an average over X time frame. </p>
<p>So until these companies get better at IDing the spam, the scam and offer some method of dealing w short periods of time where info is not typical I fear they are limited in their capability.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Eldridge</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-604235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Eldridge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do like the concept of social PR and this is going to be an interesting area to watch. Klout currently has the most visibility, but I express doubts as to the relevancy of it&#039;s algorithm. Test&#039;s have been conducted by RAAK which add fuel to the fire that if you tweet a lot then Klout will reward you http://www.wewillraakyou.com/2010/12/klout-is-broken/

Rather going forward its relevancy and quality of our online transactions which will be of value. In that respect I like the approach of Peerindex which is not isolated to any particular social channel, and takes a broad spectrum to build it&#039;s interest graph.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like the concept of social PR and this is going to be an interesting area to watch. Klout currently has the most visibility, but I express doubts as to the relevancy of it&#8217;s algorithm. Test&#8217;s have been conducted by RAAK which add fuel to the fire that if you tweet a lot then Klout will reward you <a href="http://www.wewillraakyou.com/2010/12/klout-is-broken/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wewillraakyou.com/2010/12/klout-is-broken/</a></p>
<p>Rather going forward its relevancy and quality of our online transactions which will be of value. In that respect I like the approach of Peerindex which is not isolated to any particular social channel, and takes a broad spectrum to build it&#8217;s interest graph.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-603795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really interesting point about the gender implications. Do you happen to know what the split is on Quora?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting point about the gender implications. Do you happen to know what the split is on Quora?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Salmon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-603748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Salmon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article, Mathew. Building PageRank for the social web will be subjective at best. As you have mentioned in the article, each company seems to rate different aspects of a social media user.

Much like PageRank with Google today, if one is assigned to the social web, people will try different methods of creating a better rank for their online persona. This may lead to abuse of the system, which won&#039;t help any of the social networks.

It will also be interesting to see if Google uses, or creates, a similar system to help in it&#039;s rankings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article, Mathew. Building PageRank for the social web will be subjective at best. As you have mentioned in the article, each company seems to rate different aspects of a social media user.</p>
<p>Much like PageRank with Google today, if one is assigned to the social web, people will try different methods of creating a better rank for their online persona. This may lead to abuse of the system, which won&#8217;t help any of the social networks.</p>
<p>It will also be interesting to see if Google uses, or creates, a similar system to help in it&#8217;s rankings.</p>
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		<title>By: Azeem</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-603716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azeem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 10:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey

There are couple of privacy levels you can set :
a. default - public 
b. private - hide your profile

If you want further privacy, you can set your Twitter stream to private, and not authorise Facebook or LinkedIn or, indeed, anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey</p>
<p>There are couple of privacy levels you can set :<br />
a. default &#8211; public<br />
b. private &#8211; hide your profile</p>
<p>If you want further privacy, you can set your Twitter stream to private, and not authorise Facebook or LinkedIn or, indeed, anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake S</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-603603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I discovered this tool which seems to do PageRank for content instead of users. Powerful combo with the services you mention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered this tool which seems to do PageRank for content instead of users. Powerful combo with the services you mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaya</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-603567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 01:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article on the relationship between social capital, authority, and the future of Q&amp;A sites like Quora. As questions become increasingly answered by real authorities on a subject rather than the Justin Biebers of the Internet, the information is more worth reading. One way to build your own social capital and authority is to track your favorite topics on Quora by using YourVersion&#039;s free iPad app.  It is the easiest way to quickly see the latest questions and answers by only the topics you care about.  Give the YourVersion app a try at http://bit.ly/yv-hd]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article on the relationship between social capital, authority, and the future of Q&amp;A sites like Quora. As questions become increasingly answered by real authorities on a subject rather than the Justin Biebers of the Internet, the information is more worth reading. One way to build your own social capital and authority is to track your favorite topics on Quora by using YourVersion&#8217;s free iPad app.  It is the easiest way to quickly see the latest questions and answers by only the topics you care about.  Give the YourVersion app a try at <a href="http://bit.ly/yv-hd" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/yv-hd</a></p>
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		<title>By: jonpincus</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-603561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonpincus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 01:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article, Mathew.  Do you think the seven guys on PeerIndex&#039; team have thought through the gender implications of including Quora information?

I decided to check myself out on PeerIndex.  I signed in with Twitter.  Then they wanted by email because ... um, I don&#039;t know why.  Then I went to connect my Facebook account and they asked for the following permissions http://flic.kr/p/9nnPKn  

Yeah, right.

So PeerIndex has built in a bias against people who care about their privacy.  Disappointing.  I wonder if they&#039;ve thought about the gender implications of that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, Mathew.  Do you think the seven guys on PeerIndex&#8217; team have thought through the gender implications of including Quora information?</p>
<p>I decided to check myself out on PeerIndex.  I signed in with Twitter.  Then they wanted by email because &#8230; um, I don&#8217;t know why.  Then I went to connect my Facebook account and they asked for the following permissions <a href="http://flic.kr/p/9nnPKn" rel="nofollow">http://flic.kr/p/9nnPKn</a>  </p>
<p>Yeah, right.</p>
<p>So PeerIndex has built in a bias against people who care about their privacy.  Disappointing.  I wonder if they&#8217;ve thought about the gender implications of that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/03/02/peerindex-quora-pagerank-socialweb/#comment-603510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew Ingram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points, Chris -- thanks for the comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Chris &#8212; thanks for the comment.</p>
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