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		<title>By: 5 Problems with Gartner&#8217;s Tablet Forecast: Mobile Technology News &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[5 Problems with Gartner&#8217;s Tablet Forecast: Mobile Technology News &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] early to predict what the tablet market will look like several device iterations from now due to powerful new processors on the way, faster mobile broadband in wider coverage areas and improvements in mobile software and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Apple&#8217;s iPad2 Makes Dual-Core Mainstream: Tech News and Analysis &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple&#8217;s iPad2 Makes Dual-Core Mainstream: Tech News and Analysis &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Renu Raman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

Intel has to addaress 3 problems to address.

1) PRoblem #1: The smartphones and tablets value communication and media, processor is an afterthought. That puts value to QCOM who is innovating on the &#039;connector&#039; and Nvidia who is innovating on the &#039;media&#039;. 
2) Problem #2: Leadership. Paul would retire anyday. Sean got into a medical problem. Rest of the leadership is not strong to take Intel to the next level. Moreover. Intel has always grown leadership form within and that style is no longer viable in the new era. Need aggressive, fast turn around SoC with innovatin on both hardware and software.
3) Problem #3: Smartphones and tablets are eco-system plays. Not just Processor, or operating system. Like what happened to Alpha (2X over others), with SPARC (2X over other for throughput), the architectural wind has moved to eco-system and Intel is not just on the wrong side of architecture,  but on the platform and eco-system.

How to address all 3 of them?

Buy Nvidia

1) Buying Nvidia addresses the Hardware (ARM/SOC, media processing).
2) Buying Nvidia addresses leadership. The culture of Nvidia bring the right CEO (Jensun Huang - hard knocking driven given) and a culture of aggressively beating out competition. Nvidia came from #27 in graphics to #1. That is its culture. Intel&#039;s culture is win around its defensible turf (x86 and process). Intel needs an outsider CEO.  The inside leadership don&#039;t cut it
3)  Anand Chandrasekhar despite having had success with Centrino, failed on a number of things with Atom, Smartphones, tablets. Bet on Mobilin, on Meego. Too much NIH.  Intel has all the assets with Nvidia acquisition including leadership and everything non-apple (Windows eco-system and Android). They can take a pole position in tablet outside of iPAD and work their way. 

The ARM vs x86 is a pointless arguement. In my mind its a religious argument. There is no hard evidence to say that ARM is anything greater than 1.25X over any x86 w.r.t power/performance. Intel has lost the marketing war on this war.  ANycase, its no longer the ISA wars. Its media, connectors and eco-system. If you don&#039;t have it, you loose. QCOM lacks the media and both Intel and QCOM are even keel on eco-system.

An Nvidia acquisition will make this a 2 horse race with QCOM. Otherwise expect QCOM to overtake INTC market cap within 18 months. Time is now. I am sure Jensen will take the offer if he is the CEO and that is the right thing for both companies.  It also bolsters Intel&#039;s Server/HPC/graphics. Its no longer an FTC issue. (AMD has ATI)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Intel has to addaress 3 problems to address.</p>
<p>1) PRoblem #1: The smartphones and tablets value communication and media, processor is an afterthought. That puts value to QCOM who is innovating on the &#8216;connector&#8217; and Nvidia who is innovating on the &#8216;media&#8217;.<br />
2) Problem #2: Leadership. Paul would retire anyday. Sean got into a medical problem. Rest of the leadership is not strong to take Intel to the next level. Moreover. Intel has always grown leadership form within and that style is no longer viable in the new era. Need aggressive, fast turn around SoC with innovatin on both hardware and software.<br />
3) Problem #3: Smartphones and tablets are eco-system plays. Not just Processor, or operating system. Like what happened to Alpha (2X over others), with SPARC (2X over other for throughput), the architectural wind has moved to eco-system and Intel is not just on the wrong side of architecture,  but on the platform and eco-system.</p>
<p>How to address all 3 of them?</p>
<p>Buy Nvidia</p>
<p>1) Buying Nvidia addresses the Hardware (ARM/SOC, media processing).<br />
2) Buying Nvidia addresses leadership. The culture of Nvidia bring the right CEO (Jensun Huang &#8211; hard knocking driven given) and a culture of aggressively beating out competition. Nvidia came from #27 in graphics to #1. That is its culture. Intel&#8217;s culture is win around its defensible turf (x86 and process). Intel needs an outsider CEO.  The inside leadership don&#8217;t cut it<br />
3)  Anand Chandrasekhar despite having had success with Centrino, failed on a number of things with Atom, Smartphones, tablets. Bet on Mobilin, on Meego. Too much NIH.  Intel has all the assets with Nvidia acquisition including leadership and everything non-apple (Windows eco-system and Android). They can take a pole position in tablet outside of iPAD and work their way. </p>
<p>The ARM vs x86 is a pointless arguement. In my mind its a religious argument. There is no hard evidence to say that ARM is anything greater than 1.25X over any x86 w.r.t power/performance. Intel has lost the marketing war on this war.  ANycase, its no longer the ISA wars. Its media, connectors and eco-system. If you don&#8217;t have it, you loose. QCOM lacks the media and both Intel and QCOM are even keel on eco-system.</p>
<p>An Nvidia acquisition will make this a 2 horse race with QCOM. Otherwise expect QCOM to overtake INTC market cap within 18 months. Time is now. I am sure Jensen will take the offer if he is the CEO and that is the right thing for both companies.  It also bolsters Intel&#8217;s Server/HPC/graphics. Its no longer an FTC issue. (AMD has ATI)</p>
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		<title>By: Agree</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow - seeing AG&#039;s name after a long time gave me a (happy) pause. he was the greatest - true visionary and an execution machine. rare combo of everything. my hat tip to him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow &#8211; seeing AG&#8217;s name after a long time gave me a (happy) pause. he was the greatest &#8211; true visionary and an execution machine. rare combo of everything. my hat tip to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-tegra-3-benchmark-inte/#comment-595221</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Core 2 Duo T7200 is produced 3 (yes.. three) years ago, has 34 TDP envelope while Tegra 3 will have at max 4 watts TDP for tablet/smartbook systems and a much lower TDP for smartphones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Core 2 Duo T7200 is produced 3 (yes.. three) years ago, has 34 TDP envelope while Tegra 3 will have at max 4 watts TDP for tablet/smartbook systems and a much lower TDP for smartphones.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-tegra-3-benchmark-inte/#comment-595149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d imagine any benchmark test can be simulated and faked, although as a public company, Nvidia has an obligation to its shareholders that certainly should help prevent that. Regardless, instead of focusing on the benchmarks -- which I&#039;ve already said are one of many performance indicators -- why not turn the conversation into something constructive with opinions on the actual demonstration results shown in the video or the ability for the reference design to pipe 1440p to an external monitor and integrated display at the same time?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d imagine any benchmark test can be simulated and faked, although as a public company, Nvidia has an obligation to its shareholders that certainly should help prevent that. Regardless, instead of focusing on the benchmarks &#8212; which I&#8217;ve already said are one of many performance indicators &#8212; why not turn the conversation into something constructive with opinions on the actual demonstration results shown in the video or the ability for the reference design to pipe 1440p to an external monitor and integrated display at the same time?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-tegra-3-benchmark-inte/#comment-595144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you looked into the fact that the so called Coremark benchmark from the said consortium is so great that, anybody can post any scores on any platforms? You can make up Coremark scores! Let me say it right, &quot;You can simulate the benchmark test in your head and come up with the score and post it on the Coremark website!&quot;. Based on my mood today, I can make tegra a shitty platform today or put it on par with Supercomputers and post the scores on Coremark website! No authentification needed! Have fun!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked into the fact that the so called Coremark benchmark from the said consortium is so great that, anybody can post any scores on any platforms? You can make up Coremark scores! Let me say it right, &#8220;You can simulate the benchmark test in your head and come up with the score and post it on the Coremark website!&#8221;. Based on my mood today, I can make tegra a shitty platform today or put it on par with Supercomputers and post the scores on Coremark website! No authentification needed! Have fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-tegra-3-benchmark-inte/#comment-595097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Intel stayed ahead in the semiconductor market because Andy Grove always paid attention to market trends before they were apparent to the rest of the chip makers.  Under his leadership, the company made numerous bold moves that were seen as high risk yet resulted in major steps forward.

Since Grove left, Intel has been led by people who don&#039;t have the vision or insight that Grove always provided.  The bland leadership has made Intel just another semiconductor company that will bounce around in the market looking for a place to recoup its huge investment in advanced manufacturing.

It is this change in the company dynamic that has resulted in a complete fail on the mobile market and will continue to dog it until there is new leadership.  That&#039;s not to say that any of the other processor manufacturers have the kind of visionary leadership that is necessary to be more than a commodity manufacturer - different companies will look strong at different times with nobody sitting on top.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intel stayed ahead in the semiconductor market because Andy Grove always paid attention to market trends before they were apparent to the rest of the chip makers.  Under his leadership, the company made numerous bold moves that were seen as high risk yet resulted in major steps forward.</p>
<p>Since Grove left, Intel has been led by people who don&#8217;t have the vision or insight that Grove always provided.  The bland leadership has made Intel just another semiconductor company that will bounce around in the market looking for a place to recoup its huge investment in advanced manufacturing.</p>
<p>It is this change in the company dynamic that has resulted in a complete fail on the mobile market and will continue to dog it until there is new leadership.  That&#8217;s not to say that any of the other processor manufacturers have the kind of visionary leadership that is necessary to be more than a commodity manufacturer &#8211; different companies will look strong at different times with nobody sitting on top.</p>
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		<title>By: Haresh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-tegra-3-benchmark-inte/#comment-595075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Haresh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well put. Intel has completely missed the boat on Smartphones. It&#039;s a classic dilemma faced by many established companies (read Microsoft) 0 do you continue on the path that made you successful for many years or take a risk in moving to newer path. 

Intel still may have a chance to succeed - not on its own; but buying into this market. What do you think about them buying Nvidia. It not only gives them entry into ARM based chips; but also nice graphics functionality - two areas that will see more and more action in the coming years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put. Intel has completely missed the boat on Smartphones. It&#8217;s a classic dilemma faced by many established companies (read Microsoft) 0 do you continue on the path that made you successful for many years or take a risk in moving to newer path. </p>
<p>Intel still may have a chance to succeed &#8211; not on its own; but buying into this market. What do you think about them buying Nvidia. It not only gives them entry into ARM based chips; but also nice graphics functionality &#8211; two areas that will see more and more action in the coming years.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed that benchmarks aren&#039;t the &quot;end-all, be-all&quot; of performance claims - I noted in the post that there are many other factors involved. I consider benchmarks to be a high-level indicator of what to expect, but real-world usage is ultimately what matters. As far as the validity of the benchmark, it was created by the Embedded Microprocessor Benchmark Consortium and is considered by some to be a standard tool to compare core performances of chips.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that benchmarks aren&#8217;t the &#8220;end-all, be-all&#8221; of performance claims &#8211; I noted in the post that there are many other factors involved. I consider benchmarks to be a high-level indicator of what to expect, but real-world usage is ultimately what matters. As far as the validity of the benchmark, it was created by the Embedded Microprocessor Benchmark Consortium and is considered by some to be a standard tool to compare core performances of chips.</p>
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