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		<title>By: Big Data presents a Big Opportunity? - semanticweb.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Data presents a Big Opportunity? - semanticweb.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Driscoll gave a presentation early in the event, loosely paraphrased in this post he and Roger Ehrenberg submitted to GigaOM. In it, he drew an analogy with Alberta&#8217;s Tar [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Driscoll gave a presentation early in the event, loosely paraphrased in this post he and Roger Ehrenberg submitted to GigaOM. In it, he drew an analogy with Alberta&#8217;s Tar [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is &#039;big data&#039; indifferent to the semantic web, i.e. linked data? - Quora</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is &#039;big data&#039; indifferent to the semantic web, i.e. linked data? - Quora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Ardire, &#039;Merchant of Light&#039; see this post Mining the Tar Sands of Big Data http://gigaom.com/2011/02/01/min... and discussion of semantic web in comments.Insert a dynamic date hereView All 0 CommentsCannot add [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ardire, &#039;Merchant of Light&#039; see this post Mining the Tar Sands of Big Data <a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/02/01/min" rel="nofollow">http://gigaom.com/2011/02/01/min</a>&#8230; and discussion of semantic web in comments.Insert a dynamic date hereView All 0 CommentsCannot add [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Connell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Connell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another industry that will be vital in the coming age of data is graphic design / data visualization; It is going to become very important to be able to make all that data not only understandable and digestible, but also beautiful and well designed. Things like infographics, charts and graphs can make data a pain or a pleasure to look at and comprehend, depending how well they are designed. Have a look at the work of Nicholas Feltron — http://feltron.com/ — who meticulously documents seemingly mundane statistics of his everyday life and then designs an Annual Report from his last years worth of data. Imagine having an iPhone app that tracks and presents your personal data in a similar fashion. We&#039;re already starting to see this with things like Nike+ and Klout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another industry that will be vital in the coming age of data is graphic design / data visualization; It is going to become very important to be able to make all that data not only understandable and digestible, but also beautiful and well designed. Things like infographics, charts and graphs can make data a pain or a pleasure to look at and comprehend, depending how well they are designed. Have a look at the work of Nicholas Feltron — <a href="http://feltron.com/" rel="nofollow">http://feltron.com/</a> — who meticulously documents seemingly mundane statistics of his everyday life and then designs an Annual Report from his last years worth of data. Imagine having an iPhone app that tracks and presents your personal data in a similar fashion. We&#8217;re already starting to see this with things like Nike+ and Klout.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re prediction no. 1 above:
indeed, see
http://www.parkparadigm.com/2008/06/14/one-word-data/
(wish I had the a/v skills to remix dialog in this classic Graduate moment...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re prediction no. 1 above:<br />
indeed, see<br />
<a href="http://www.parkparadigm.com/2008/06/14/one-word-data/" rel="nofollow">http://www.parkparadigm.com/2008/06/14/one-word-data/</a><br />
(wish I had the a/v skills to remix dialog in this classic Graduate moment&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: JohnBrian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnBrian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 23:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The missing semtech component is not so surpising in that semantic and lingusitic data mining, and applicable commercial value-generation (ROI)is still bound up by our lack of an alignment/agreement within a complex of cognitive, meta-cognitive neuropsych and neuro-linguistic models. Until we can agree on the direct role of the human brain and mind n data-modeling, aggregation, generation and derived meaning and as that role relates to making money the semantic space will languish in relative degree behind sensors, ML and collective-intelligence movements. 

I think the predictive analytics and attempts to represent/visualize 1) our (a) unique (human) &quot;Self&quot; in real-time; and 2) fine vs. current course-grain human-connectity (applying such visualizations) in the form of efficacious and value-rich (read: Self-Evolving) prescriptions of &quot;Hu-synergies and Hu-synchrocities&quot;(applied to socnet data clouds) will be one of the best proving grounds for semtech as it adds direct value to AI-ML and sensor efforts.

Big data was created for a reason. It exists, not via the blind and sheer momentum of technology use behavior; but for a reason we have not yet grasped. Human and human-systems &quot;Autopoiesis&quot; will become a valuable data reality for the consuming marketplace within the next 25 years (imho) and begin to be seen as such in this generation. I write to this a bit here: http://imonad.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/weme-metrics/

Best,
Brian

P.S. I am an ex-neuropsych grad stu out of Karl H. Pribram&#039;s lab at Stanford - Mr. &quot;Holographic Hypothesis of Memory and Perception&quot; (... there at the exciting time of - David Bohm + Karl Pribram... and all that)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The missing semtech component is not so surpising in that semantic and lingusitic data mining, and applicable commercial value-generation (ROI)is still bound up by our lack of an alignment/agreement within a complex of cognitive, meta-cognitive neuropsych and neuro-linguistic models. Until we can agree on the direct role of the human brain and mind n data-modeling, aggregation, generation and derived meaning and as that role relates to making money the semantic space will languish in relative degree behind sensors, ML and collective-intelligence movements. </p>
<p>I think the predictive analytics and attempts to represent/visualize 1) our (a) unique (human) &#8220;Self&#8221; in real-time; and 2) fine vs. current course-grain human-connectity (applying such visualizations) in the form of efficacious and value-rich (read: Self-Evolving) prescriptions of &#8220;Hu-synergies and Hu-synchrocities&#8221;(applied to socnet data clouds) will be one of the best proving grounds for semtech as it adds direct value to AI-ML and sensor efforts.</p>
<p>Big data was created for a reason. It exists, not via the blind and sheer momentum of technology use behavior; but for a reason we have not yet grasped. Human and human-systems &#8220;Autopoiesis&#8221; will become a valuable data reality for the consuming marketplace within the next 25 years (imho) and begin to be seen as such in this generation. I write to this a bit here: <a href="http://imonad.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/weme-metrics/" rel="nofollow">http://imonad.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/weme-metrics/</a></p>
<p>Best,<br />
Brian</p>
<p>P.S. I am an ex-neuropsych grad stu out of Karl H. Pribram&#8217;s lab at Stanford &#8211; Mr. &#8220;Holographic Hypothesis of Memory and Perception&#8221; (&#8230; there at the exciting time of &#8211; David Bohm + Karl Pribram&#8230; and all that)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ardire</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2011/02/01/mining-the-tar-sands-of-big-data/#comment-585220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Ardire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Michael - it&#039;s perfectly fine and healthy to be skeptical about semtech because it needs to be &#039;interleaved&#039; into existing information management solutions ( web, enterprise, real time streams ) and sold much better than what most vendors do these days ;)

My main point was the continuing advances already address and overlap what you discuss here in article i.e. advances in sensor networks, cloud computing, and machine learning.

Finally I&#039;ve seen the 2011 Semtech Conf program and it&#039;s quite good !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael &#8211; it&#8217;s perfectly fine and healthy to be skeptical about semtech because it needs to be &#8216;interleaved&#8217; into existing information management solutions ( web, enterprise, real time streams ) and sold much better than what most vendors do these days ;)</p>
<p>My main point was the continuing advances already address and overlap what you discuss here in article i.e. advances in sensor networks, cloud computing, and machine learning.</p>
<p>Finally I&#8217;ve seen the 2011 Semtech Conf program and it&#8217;s quite good !</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Driscoll</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Driscoll]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Steve - I confess I&#039;m one of the skeptics when it comes to semantic technologies, and the ontologies and mark-ups they require (I&#039;ve written about this here:  http://www.dataspora.com/blog/xml-and-big-data/ ).

@Cole - Speaking of semantics... &#039;tar sands&#039; is the popular term favored by the likes of The Economist and even the Wikipedia entry you cite.  But point taken.

@David - How important ML is as a competitive advantage depends on how propriety the data is.  For the widely available data in the financial markets, ML is the differentiating factor.  For other spaces, like traffic prediction from mobile phones, if you can get access to proprietary cell tower data - for example - then, to use a phrase, more data beats better algorithms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve &#8211; I confess I&#8217;m one of the skeptics when it comes to semantic technologies, and the ontologies and mark-ups they require (I&#8217;ve written about this here:  <a href="http://www.dataspora.com/blog/xml-and-big-data/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dataspora.com/blog/xml-and-big-data/</a> ).</p>
<p>@Cole &#8211; Speaking of semantics&#8230; &#8216;tar sands&#8217; is the popular term favored by the likes of The Economist and even the Wikipedia entry you cite.  But point taken.</p>
<p>@David &#8211; How important ML is as a competitive advantage depends on how propriety the data is.  For the widely available data in the financial markets, ML is the differentiating factor.  For other spaces, like traffic prediction from mobile phones, if you can get access to proprietary cell tower data &#8211; for example &#8211; then, to use a phrase, more data beats better algorithms.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cole Cooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting commentary on the parallels in bitumen refining and data refining. However, I must take exception to your characterization of the Bitumen as &quot;Tar Sands&quot;. They are not. It is more accurate to call them &quot;Oil Sands&quot;. 
Tar is a product of pitch which is derived from pine trees.  Calling the Oil Sands Tar sands is a mis-identification.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athabasca_oil_sands]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting commentary on the parallels in bitumen refining and data refining. However, I must take exception to your characterization of the Bitumen as &#8220;Tar Sands&#8221;. They are not. It is more accurate to call them &#8220;Oil Sands&#8221;.<br />
Tar is a product of pitch which is derived from pine trees.  Calling the Oil Sands Tar sands is a mis-identification.  </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athabasca_oil_sands" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athabasca_oil_sands</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Famolari</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Famolari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 01:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great piece and totally agree with the rise of data startups.  

I see ML algorithms as less of a source of competitive advantage than the exploration of new and/or alternative data sources. 

In my view, what ultimately determines the wildcatters success is not building better drills but staking smarter claims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece and totally agree with the rise of data startups.  </p>
<p>I see ML algorithms as less of a source of competitive advantage than the exploration of new and/or alternative data sources. </p>
<p>In my view, what ultimately determines the wildcatters success is not building better drills but staking smarter claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ardire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Ardire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 01:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK article and sorry to be critical but your Tar Sands of Big Data analogy is EXACTLY what semantic web,  semantic enterprise, semantic sensor networks: ( like W3C SSN-XG ontology and how to semantically enable real time sensor feeds ) and next gen cloud computing is addressing.

This trumps what you say in this article i.e. &quot;These are hints of the promise of big data, which will mature in the coming decade, driven by advances in three principal areas: sensor networks, cloud computing, and machine learning&quot;.

GigaOM’s Structure: Big Data conference on March 23 in New York City is good stuff but if you want know more per above then come to 2011 Semtech Conf http://semtech2011.semanticweb.com ( the program will be posted soon )

Cheers....Steve

PS - I&#039;m also an ex geologist ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK article and sorry to be critical but your Tar Sands of Big Data analogy is EXACTLY what semantic web,  semantic enterprise, semantic sensor networks: ( like W3C SSN-XG ontology and how to semantically enable real time sensor feeds ) and next gen cloud computing is addressing.</p>
<p>This trumps what you say in this article i.e. &#8220;These are hints of the promise of big data, which will mature in the coming decade, driven by advances in three principal areas: sensor networks, cloud computing, and machine learning&#8221;.</p>
<p>GigaOM’s Structure: Big Data conference on March 23 in New York City is good stuff but if you want know more per above then come to 2011 Semtech Conf <a href="http://semtech2011.semanticweb.com" rel="nofollow">http://semtech2011.semanticweb.com</a> ( the program will be posted soon )</p>
<p>Cheers&#8230;.Steve</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I&#8217;m also an ex geologist ;)</p>
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