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MeeGo Preview Shows Why Nokia Embraced WP7: Tech News and Analysis « — Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:31:12 +0000

[...] little while back when rumors of a Nokia-Microsoft partnership bubbled up, I wondered why Nokia wouldn’t wait to see how MeeGo, its high-end platform for smartphones and tablets, performed. Well, after Nokia’s [...]

By: Shaun

Shaun — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:44:21 +0000

MeeGo is an open source project overseen by the Linux Foundation. Qt is also open source.

Apart from this weeks closure of the Qt Components MeeGo source for competitive reasons, presumably as they don’t want to announce the UI look before MWC, Nokia couldn’t be MORE open about the development of MeeGo.

By: gerald

gerald — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 01:00:37 +0000

Nokia is not just a dumb phone maker to which it loads a third party OS. Once it loses the control over the value chain, end-to-end, its phones would become just another Android commodity, like all those basically faceless and exchangeable HTCs, Motorolas, ZTEs, LGs or Samsungs…

By: Harald

Harald — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 17:44:00 +0000

Microsoft is the only phone OS provider who is losing market share in absolute numbers. Nokia is losing market share but still growing with absolute numbers of sold smartphones. So how Microsoft can be a help with its market share of below 3%. That is not a healthy ecosystem after 10 years market presence. Choosing Android now would be a move of desperation only. Nokia has no choice, they need to get MeeGo working. If this will fail the market dominance of Nokia will be history soon. But QT is great so Nokia has still a good change to manage a turn-over. So more healthy competition so better for us consumers.

By: Ricegf

Ricegf — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:31:06 +0000

Most likely because Android is now the market share leader across the entire planet. And no, in the long run, profits are definitely NOT all that matter; if they were, we’d all using OS/2 on our desktops. :-D

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110131-714981.html

By: Ricegf

Ricegf — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:17:25 +0000

Dalvik is Google’s to license until Oracle prove otherwise. The legal wheels have just begun to churn, and could easily run for 10 years or longer. Nor is an Oracle victory nearly as likely as you believe, and an Android death sentence is *very* unlikely given the outcome of similar cases in the past. And even given a worst case scenario, pulling Dalvik from MeeGo would be no more difficult than, say, Microsoft pulling Java from Windows. The minor risks easily worth the major gain.

So. I take it you really hate Android? :-D

By: Hamranhansenhansen

Hamranhansenhansen — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:10:44 +0000

Different phone models are not an ecosystem. Apps and content delivery and cloud services and accessories and retail stores and in-person support and loyal customers are an ecosystem.

We have full-face touch screens now. Every one of Apple’s 400,000 apps turns the iPhone into a different model of phone. Every case dramatically alters its appearance. There is much more variety in just the iPhone 4 than all phones Nokia ever made in it’s entire history. Today, the buttons and displays change app to app, not model to model.

Every iPhone also has a very different set of apps, because the users choose them, not carriers. Tremendous variety.

There is no money in Android for handset makers. Motorola made no money from Verizon Droid. All the Android makers combined make less than 20% of what Nokia makes right now in profit. Motorola and Sony Ericsson are on a deathwatch. Even if Nokia really loved Android, waiting a year will mean less competition, not more, because a couple of the current Android makers will go out of business. As bad as you may think Nokia is doing, the Android handset makers are doing worse, except possibly Samsung. The money in Android is for advertisers and carriers, not handset makers, who are interchangeable commodities.

By: Hamranhansenhansen

Hamranhansenhansen — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:54:01 +0000

It’s true. Windows and Android are anti-competitive. They destroy the industries they are in.

By: Hamranhansenhansen

Hamranhansenhansen — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:52:15 +0000

Basically, Dalvik is not Google’s to license. If Nokia uses Dalvik, they could become part of the Oracle suit, which Oracle is likely to win, and in which they ask for the remedy to be the destruction of all copies of Dalvik.

By: Hamranhansenhansen

Hamranhansenhansen — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:46:46 +0000

Profits are all that matter:

• Apple 50%
• Nokia 25%
• RIM 15%
• Other 10%

Why would Nokia want to move into “Other” with Android, which makes like 3-4% of the profits combined? Over the next couple of years, we are going to lose a few Android handset makers. They are the endangered species, not Nokia.