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	<title>Comments on: 20% of All Peak Traffic Due to 3.5M Netflix Data Hogs?</title>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-601340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3.5 million * 1.5mbits? Not 5 petabits, learn to math champ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.5 million * 1.5mbits? Not 5 petabits, learn to math champ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kandersen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-562954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kandersen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 05:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea makes sense, 20% sounds like a fair figure. thats over 5Petabits of data traffic considering that each netflix stream is 1.5Mbits stream. The fallacy that internet bandwidth is free will soon come to an end. it has really nothing to do that comcast also provides cable tv. Its all about bandwidth usage. there is a finite cost for commercial bandwidth connections. that price is spread across multiple end use customers per meg. if you have each customer using a full time 1.5Mbit stream yet only paying 15% of the cost of that bandwidth well it doesn&#039;t take many customers to plug the pipes and cause hate and discontent for everyone else. 

Get ready to see that 20% cause rate hikes in all ISP&#039;s or bandwidth caps to start to come down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea makes sense, 20% sounds like a fair figure. thats over 5Petabits of data traffic considering that each netflix stream is 1.5Mbits stream. The fallacy that internet bandwidth is free will soon come to an end. it has really nothing to do that comcast also provides cable tv. Its all about bandwidth usage. there is a finite cost for commercial bandwidth connections. that price is spread across multiple end use customers per meg. if you have each customer using a full time 1.5Mbit stream yet only paying 15% of the cost of that bandwidth well it doesn&#8217;t take many customers to plug the pipes and cause hate and discontent for everyone else. </p>
<p>Get ready to see that 20% cause rate hikes in all ISP&#8217;s or bandwidth caps to start to come down.</p>
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		<title>By: DrkSide</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-557213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DrkSide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cable television will NEVER get cheaper.  Due to the fact that you stated as people are going to start streaming shows and the cable companies are going to see this as a threat, therefore raise prices because of shrinking viewers.

Also, usage tiers might be a good solution on paper (not really) but I pay for a certain bandwidth.  Normally I don&#039;t even get this speed from my isp because of the fine print of UP TO 55Mbps.  They will only guarantee me ~2Mbps.  But they don&#039;t complain when I stream all day and night as well as bit torrent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cable television will NEVER get cheaper.  Due to the fact that you stated as people are going to start streaming shows and the cable companies are going to see this as a threat, therefore raise prices because of shrinking viewers.</p>
<p>Also, usage tiers might be a good solution on paper (not really) but I pay for a certain bandwidth.  Normally I don&#8217;t even get this speed from my isp because of the fine print of UP TO 55Mbps.  They will only guarantee me ~2Mbps.  But they don&#8217;t complain when I stream all day and night as well as bit torrent.</p>
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		<title>By: yonder</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-556953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yonder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kudos for the lowest-brow comment on the entire website.  You obviously have no clue what Netflix is.  You make it sound like a foreign concept.  People who watch Netflix are automatically &quot;hip&quot;?  What the heck?
And yeah... the most used content = &quot;junk nobody cares about&quot;... that&#039;s like saying pop music is junk cuz no one listens to it.
... and just when I was thinking to myself &quot;you know what... the comments here have so far been pretty smart!  I like this community&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos for the lowest-brow comment on the entire website.  You obviously have no clue what Netflix is.  You make it sound like a foreign concept.  People who watch Netflix are automatically &#8220;hip&#8221;?  What the heck?<br />
And yeah&#8230; the most used content = &#8220;junk nobody cares about&#8221;&#8230; that&#8217;s like saying pop music is junk cuz no one listens to it.<br />
&#8230; and just when I was thinking to myself &#8220;you know what&#8230; the comments here have so far been pretty smart!  I like this community&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 20% of All Peak Traffic Due to 3.5M Netflix Data Hogs? &#171; Godzgiftz&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-556495</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[20% of All Peak Traffic Due to 3.5M Netflix Data Hogs? &#171; Godzgiftz&#39;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-556492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t Comcast looking into a box recently??? kind of a double standard if you ask me... them netflix users eat up all the bandwidt but our box thats coming out will be ok to use and cheaper.... hmm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Comcast looking into a box recently??? kind of a double standard if you ask me&#8230; them netflix users eat up all the bandwidt but our box thats coming out will be ok to use and cheaper&#8230;. hmm</p>
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		<title>By: 20% of All Peak Traffic Due to 3.5M Netflix Data Hogs? - wehaveways's posterous</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-556487</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[20% of All Peak Traffic Due to 3.5M Netflix Data Hogs? - wehaveways's posterous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] We already knew that Netflix streams about 20 percent of peak data traffic. But you might be surprised just how few Netflix subscribers it takes to push that much data: One analyst estimates just 3.5 million users might be responsible for one-fifth of primetime data traffic.Source:http://gigaom.com/video/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We already knew that Netflix streams about 20 percent of peak data traffic. But you might be surprised just how few Netflix subscribers it takes to push that much data: One analyst estimates just 3.5 million users might be responsible for one-fifth of primetime data traffic.Source:<a href="http://gigaom.com/video/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/" rel="nofollow">http://gigaom.com/video/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: toast</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-556405</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peering has always meant traffic that ends in your network (or technically in your customers&#039; networks).  General rules of the road for settlement free peering have always been &#039;roughly balanced&#039; traffic, although certainly not all networks enforce that. Transit means traffic that traverses your network, and is rarely settlement free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peering has always meant traffic that ends in your network (or technically in your customers&#8217; networks).  General rules of the road for settlement free peering have always been &#8216;roughly balanced&#8217; traffic, although certainly not all networks enforce that. Transit means traffic that traverses your network, and is rarely settlement free.</p>
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		<title>By: LBalsam</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-556256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LBalsam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Streaming content to a single user at a time is a tremendous amount of usage as opposed to broadcasting shows and recording them on DVR&#039;s.

The logical solution is to reduce the price of cable television while increasing the price of broadband usage via tiers.

The problem with this is that popular cable channels are extorting larger and larger fees for popular channels.

While it is hard to be sympathetic to the cable companies, they are seeing internet usage patterns rise, declining revenue as customers leave to go broadband only and increased costs for channels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Streaming content to a single user at a time is a tremendous amount of usage as opposed to broadcasting shows and recording them on DVR&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The logical solution is to reduce the price of cable television while increasing the price of broadband usage via tiers.</p>
<p>The problem with this is that popular cable channels are extorting larger and larger fees for popular channels.</p>
<p>While it is hard to be sympathetic to the cable companies, they are seeing internet usage patterns rise, declining revenue as customers leave to go broadband only and increased costs for channels.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/17/netflix-bandwidth-hogs/#comment-556136</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of things here:

1. This &quot;math&quot; assumes that 1/3 of Netflix customers are streaming between 8 and 10pm.  That seems a bit excessive to me.  I know probably 20 people with Netflix, and they stream one movie every couple of days at most.

2. SandVine, the company that did the estimate, stands to DIRECTLY benefit financially if ISP&#039;s start charging content originators based on the amount of traffic going over their networks.  This article is *PROPAGANDA*.  And it&#039;s very likely PAID propaganda at that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things here:</p>
<p>1. This &#8220;math&#8221; assumes that 1/3 of Netflix customers are streaming between 8 and 10pm.  That seems a bit excessive to me.  I know probably 20 people with Netflix, and they stream one movie every couple of days at most.</p>
<p>2. SandVine, the company that did the estimate, stands to DIRECTLY benefit financially if ISP&#8217;s start charging content originators based on the amount of traffic going over their networks.  This article is *PROPAGANDA*.  And it&#8217;s very likely PAID propaganda at that.</p>
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