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	<title>Comments on: Mobile Operators Want to Charge Based on Time and Apps</title>
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		<title>By: Mobile Operators Want Netflix to Pay for Their Networks : Broadband News and Analysis &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-607097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mobile Operators Want Netflix to Pay for Their Networks : Broadband News and Analysis &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] also making sure they don&#8217;t go crazy while using them. To that end I&#8217;ve written about personalized pricing plans being introduced in Europe as well as the promise of congestion-based pricing [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also making sure they don&#8217;t go crazy while using them. To that end I&#8217;ve written about personalized pricing plans being introduced in Europe as well as the promise of congestion-based pricing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Dream of Mobile Content Delivered via HQME &#124; NotifyMDM Mobile Device Management in Canada</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-604619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dream of Mobile Content Delivered via HQME &#124; NotifyMDM Mobile Device Management in Canada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 05:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is frightening enough that the industry is trying to find new ways of building out their networks, selling new data plans, and even pushing forward with open standards in an effort to keep their networks afloat. Even if [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is frightening enough that the industry is trying to find new ways of building out their networks, selling new data plans, and even pushing forward with open standards in an effort to keep their networks afloat. Even if [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Dream of Mobile Content Delivered at HQME: Tech News and Analysis &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-604395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dream of Mobile Content Delivered at HQME: Tech News and Analysis &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is frightening enough that the industry is trying to find new ways of building out their networks, selling new data plans and even pushing forward with open standards in an effort to keep their networks afloat. Even if [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is frightening enough that the industry is trying to find new ways of building out their networks, selling new data plans and even pushing forward with open standards in an effort to keep their networks afloat. Even if [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-600395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 06:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[for th ekey to whether such a pricing model would be acceptable is that the current big data buckets available across Europe not be eliminated when the new &#039;application limited&#039; ones get releases.

give the option of a 10GB or larger monthly bucket at a reasonable price or let users save a bit with a cheaper but more limited plan. as long as the big bucket don&#039;t go away or get more expensive i don&#039;t have a problem with it.

but also about things like VPN or SSH tunnels? will there be a ban on finding workarounds to get full data from the limited plans?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for th ekey to whether such a pricing model would be acceptable is that the current big data buckets available across Europe not be eliminated when the new &#8216;application limited&#8217; ones get releases.</p>
<p>give the option of a 10GB or larger monthly bucket at a reasonable price or let users save a bit with a cheaper but more limited plan. as long as the big bucket don&#8217;t go away or get more expensive i don&#8217;t have a problem with it.</p>
<p>but also about things like VPN or SSH tunnels? will there be a ban on finding workarounds to get full data from the limited plans?</p>
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		<title>By: LTE Will Grow. It Just Needs Hot Devices : Mobile Technology News &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-599927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LTE Will Grow. It Just Needs Hot Devices : Mobile Technology News &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] video on their iPad, I also think that the spread of cheap and ubiquitous Wi-Fi, as well as newer pricing models for cellular data will end up playing a large role in driving adoption too. According to TeleGeography Analyst Peter [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] video on their iPad, I also think that the spread of cheap and ubiquitous Wi-Fi, as well as newer pricing models for cellular data will end up playing a large role in driving adoption too. According to TeleGeography Analyst Peter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MetroPCS LTE Plans Charge More For Skype and Streaming: Tech News and Analysis &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-566332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MetroPCS LTE Plans Charge More For Skype and Streaming: Tech News and Analysis &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the beginning of a possible price war. It represented a long-talked about tactic of wireless ISPs charging for content at different rates and potentially favoring their own services while charging more for access to rivals. The new LTE [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the beginning of a possible price war. It represented a long-talked about tactic of wireless ISPs charging for content at different rates and potentially favoring their own services while charging more for access to rivals. The new LTE [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Net Neutrality Rules May Signal A Change in Wireless Pricing: Tech News &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-557630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Net Neutrality Rules May Signal A Change in Wireless Pricing: Tech News &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] written before about how European operators are using innovative pricing plans to charge users based on their applications and the time of day. In almost every conversation I&#8217;ve had with the companies that enable such pricing, network [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] written before about how European operators are using innovative pricing plans to charge users based on their applications and the time of day. In almost every conversation I&#8217;ve had with the companies that enable such pricing, network [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wait! Unlimited Mobile Broadband May Not Doom Operators: Tech News &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-552126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wait! Unlimited Mobile Broadband May Not Doom Operators: Tech News &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the tide of other operators who are trying to both manage network congestion and squeeze out more profits from subscribers itching to consume gigabytes of mobile data. Readers may recall that 3 was one of the first to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the tide of other operators who are trying to both manage network congestion and squeeze out more profits from subscribers itching to consume gigabytes of mobile data. Readers may recall that 3 was one of the first to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: @tkanet</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/12/14/mobile-operators-want-to-charge-based-on-time-and-apps/#comment-551015</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 06:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[app aware charging will likely appear, typically if 
1) apps start to &quot;signal&quot; their data profile ( ususal average consumption, average network reliability required, etc ...) which drastically differs from an app to another

2) operators can integrate this to their own price plans and start to subsidize some as a cheaper way (cheaper than handset subsidy) to keep some subscribers. Imagine if you could get Netflix on your iPad but all consumed data free of charge (against few more months of loyalty). 

I think it would work really if it comes to subsidy rather than trying to take more money from subs on particular apps...as the DPI vendor is trying to set. 
Also, generally speaking, DPI would be useless in this scenario as apps would simply provide their profile explicitly. No need for complex &quot;guessing&quot; on which apps a subscriber is using.

last, all these data restrictions ...mean just there is a crucial need for innovation on the pure network side to come with other types of digital transmissions over wireless spectrum. This point does not seem to be addressed anywhere today ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>app aware charging will likely appear, typically if<br />
1) apps start to &#8220;signal&#8221; their data profile ( ususal average consumption, average network reliability required, etc &#8230;) which drastically differs from an app to another</p>
<p>2) operators can integrate this to their own price plans and start to subsidize some as a cheaper way (cheaper than handset subsidy) to keep some subscribers. Imagine if you could get Netflix on your iPad but all consumed data free of charge (against few more months of loyalty). </p>
<p>I think it would work really if it comes to subsidy rather than trying to take more money from subs on particular apps&#8230;as the DPI vendor is trying to set.<br />
Also, generally speaking, DPI would be useless in this scenario as apps would simply provide their profile explicitly. No need for complex &#8220;guessing&#8221; on which apps a subscriber is using.</p>
<p>last, all these data restrictions &#8230;mean just there is a crucial need for innovation on the pure network side to come with other types of digital transmissions over wireless spectrum. This point does not seem to be addressed anywhere today &#8230;</p>
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