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	<title>Comments on: Why No Love for Mac, Skype?</title>
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		<title>By: valeriy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/15/why-no-love-for-mac-skype/#comment-391929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valeriy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well with the fresh release of Facetime Beta, who needs Skype anymore?

Darrell, you are right in that Skype has missed the target and neglected the Apple user base. I personally thought Skype functioned much better on my MacBook Pro as opposed to my HP Windows laptop. There were less dropped calls and better video quality on my Mac with Skype. There may have been a few kinks with Skype on Facebook with Safari, but I&#039;m sure those will be worked out with time. I am an avid user of Skype since I travel much and those low international call rates are great. However, I do feel neglected now when Windows gets an upgrade, and Skype is &#039;still&#039; working on the Mac update. What is up with that? 

At the moment I&#039;m enjoying my newly installed Facetime Beta, so long Skype.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well with the fresh release of Facetime Beta, who needs Skype anymore?</p>
<p>Darrell, you are right in that Skype has missed the target and neglected the Apple user base. I personally thought Skype functioned much better on my MacBook Pro as opposed to my HP Windows laptop. There were less dropped calls and better video quality on my Mac with Skype. There may have been a few kinks with Skype on Facebook with Safari, but I&#8217;m sure those will be worked out with time. I am an avid user of Skype since I travel much and those low international call rates are great. However, I do feel neglected now when Windows gets an upgrade, and Skype is &#8216;still&#8217; working on the Mac update. What is up with that? </p>
<p>At the moment I&#8217;m enjoying my newly installed Facetime Beta, so long Skype.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff_R</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/15/why-no-love-for-mac-skype/#comment-391928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff_R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Larry, I have found the opposite to your experience. Just FYI, my background is over 15 years on Windows, building my own custom systems, and maintaining a mixed mainframe/Windows environment for one of the largest financial institutions in the country.

I was a Windows evangelist for years, then after using my financée&#039;s Mac for a while, switched to a Mac with Parallels to run whatever Windows apps I needed, and have finally managed to get rid of Parallels. I have never found any difficulty seeking out replacements for my software, and have usually found the replacements to be superior. Couple that with the fact that the OS is such a superior experience for me compared to any version of Windows (I have never had to reinstall Mac OS, whereas Windows was about every 3-6 months). 

It&#039;s a bit off-topic, but your facts are really only your experiences, not facts at all. Everyone&#039;s experience is different, and mine has made me very glad I could get away from Windows for good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Larry, I have found the opposite to your experience. Just FYI, my background is over 15 years on Windows, building my own custom systems, and maintaining a mixed mainframe/Windows environment for one of the largest financial institutions in the country.</p>
<p>I was a Windows evangelist for years, then after using my financée&#8217;s Mac for a while, switched to a Mac with Parallels to run whatever Windows apps I needed, and have finally managed to get rid of Parallels. I have never found any difficulty seeking out replacements for my software, and have usually found the replacements to be superior. Couple that with the fact that the OS is such a superior experience for me compared to any version of Windows (I have never had to reinstall Mac OS, whereas Windows was about every 3-6 months). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit off-topic, but your facts are really only your experiences, not facts at all. Everyone&#8217;s experience is different, and mine has made me very glad I could get away from Windows for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/15/why-no-love-for-mac-skype/#comment-391927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 04:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Umm this is not anything new.  I am a Mac user and a Widnows user.  I went all Mac in 2007 and tried very hard to stay that way.

Now I am slowyly moving back, and may become all Windows.  Fact there is WAY more software on Windows. Sure there is great software on the Mac.  

However us a Mac user you spend WAY to much time trying to find software to replace the Windows software you once used.  In many cases the software, even from the same vendor, is of less quality compared to the PC side.  Microsoft Office and Intuit products are great examples.  Quicken and Quickbooks on the Mac suck compared to the PC versions, and there are NOT any alternatives to really replace them.  Office 2010 blows away any Office package on the Mac, even Office 2011.

Like others have said, even at 10% market share, which is only in the US, software developers want to make money....not a statement about worshiping over priced hardware or another Linux distro with a fancy GUI (OS X).

If I were in the software money making business Windows version would roll first, and Mac version would only come if I thought I had a chance of breaking even on it.

Facetime for OS X....if BFD.  AIM, Microsoft, Yahoo, and Skype have had FACE TIME for a long time on computers, even on the Mac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm this is not anything new.  I am a Mac user and a Widnows user.  I went all Mac in 2007 and tried very hard to stay that way.</p>
<p>Now I am slowyly moving back, and may become all Windows.  Fact there is WAY more software on Windows. Sure there is great software on the Mac.  </p>
<p>However us a Mac user you spend WAY to much time trying to find software to replace the Windows software you once used.  In many cases the software, even from the same vendor, is of less quality compared to the PC side.  Microsoft Office and Intuit products are great examples.  Quicken and Quickbooks on the Mac suck compared to the PC versions, and there are NOT any alternatives to really replace them.  Office 2010 blows away any Office package on the Mac, even Office 2011.</p>
<p>Like others have said, even at 10% market share, which is only in the US, software developers want to make money&#8230;.not a statement about worshiping over priced hardware or another Linux distro with a fancy GUI (OS X).</p>
<p>If I were in the software money making business Windows version would roll first, and Mac version would only come if I thought I had a chance of breaking even on it.</p>
<p>Facetime for OS X&#8230;.if BFD.  AIM, Microsoft, Yahoo, and Skype have had FACE TIME for a long time on computers, even on the Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Thib</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/15/why-no-love-for-mac-skype/#comment-391926</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think Darrell’s main point is still relevant – why release an update for one platform and not the other? It doesn’t matter if Mac enhancements come first and then Windows follows or vice-versa…Skype should release the updates for all platforms simultaneously&quot;

That&#039;s silly. It&#039;s silly because we cannot expect companies to simultaneously release applications for all platforms that they have market shares in. Even Apple doesn&#039;t do that! Look at the iPod touch and iPhone versus the iPad. iPad is running an older iOS version right now than the iPod touch and iPhone. Does that mean Apple has &quot;no love&quot; for iPad?

To wait but a few weeks is not a big deal at all and in fact should be expected.

If you expect simultaneous release for all platforms then you&#039;re simply being unrealistic and maybe a bit naïve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think Darrell’s main point is still relevant – why release an update for one platform and not the other? It doesn’t matter if Mac enhancements come first and then Windows follows or vice-versa…Skype should release the updates for all platforms simultaneously&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s silly. It&#8217;s silly because we cannot expect companies to simultaneously release applications for all platforms that they have market shares in. Even Apple doesn&#8217;t do that! Look at the iPod touch and iPhone versus the iPad. iPad is running an older iOS version right now than the iPod touch and iPhone. Does that mean Apple has &#8220;no love&#8221; for iPad?</p>
<p>To wait but a few weeks is not a big deal at all and in fact should be expected.</p>
<p>If you expect simultaneous release for all platforms then you&#8217;re simply being unrealistic and maybe a bit naïve.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 07:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Darrell&#039;s main point is still relevant - why release an update for one platform and not the other? It doesn&#039;t matter if Mac enhancements come first and then Windows follows or vice-versa...Skype should release the updates for all platforms simultaneously. But I will also say that this is not 1997, when Apple had very little market share. Today Apple may have increased marketshare to 10%, but it is also way out in front in terms of mindshare. If companies like Skype want to keep the early adopters and - dare I say it, the intelligent tech commentators - on board, then they are going to have to pay a lot more attention to what Apple is doing and what the technorati are saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Darrell&#8217;s main point is still relevant &#8211; why release an update for one platform and not the other? It doesn&#8217;t matter if Mac enhancements come first and then Windows follows or vice-versa&#8230;Skype should release the updates for all platforms simultaneously. But I will also say that this is not 1997, when Apple had very little market share. Today Apple may have increased marketshare to 10%, but it is also way out in front in terms of mindshare. If companies like Skype want to keep the early adopters and &#8211; dare I say it, the intelligent tech commentators &#8211; on board, then they are going to have to pay a lot more attention to what Apple is doing and what the technorati are saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/15/why-no-love-for-mac-skype/#comment-391924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because, let&#039;s say, &quot;I am&quot; the only one who are using Mac, while my other families using PC and without iPhone/iPad. 

I don&#039;t think Windows/Linux will incorporate FaceTime application anywhere within one year either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because, let&#8217;s say, &#8220;I am&#8221; the only one who are using Mac, while my other families using PC and without iPhone/iPad. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Windows/Linux will incorporate FaceTime application anywhere within one year either.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Etherington</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darrell Etherington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You think FaceTime isn&#039;t coming in iOS 10.7? I don&#039;t need insider info or psychic abilities to see that one coming. And if Windows should get more playtime than OS X, you&#039;re clearly thinking only in the present. If companies thought that way, none of them would have a future at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think FaceTime isn&#8217;t coming in iOS 10.7? I don&#8217;t need insider info or psychic abilities to see that one coming. And if Windows should get more playtime than OS X, you&#8217;re clearly thinking only in the present. If companies thought that way, none of them would have a future at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Thib</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/15/why-no-love-for-mac-skype/#comment-391922</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 04:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you knew already that Skype is coming out with an update soon, why use the words &quot;why no love for Mac&quot;? That doesn&#039;t make any sense. The only time that phrase makes sense is if Skype is not planning to make a Mac update in the foreseeable future. But since you (and I) already know an update is coming within two weeks, &quot;why no love for Mac&quot; as a phrase is mis-used in this context.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you knew already that Skype is coming out with an update soon, why use the words &#8220;why no love for Mac&#8221;? That doesn&#8217;t make any sense. The only time that phrase makes sense is if Skype is not planning to make a Mac update in the foreseeable future. But since you (and I) already know an update is coming within two weeks, &#8220;why no love for Mac&#8221; as a phrase is mis-used in this context.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/15/why-no-love-for-mac-skype/#comment-391921</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article is complete fluff.

Yes, Mac share has finally increased to 10% in the USA, but that is still only 10%. That number alone disproves your entire argument, Windows should get a lot more playtime than MacOS.

Mentioning iPad at all is irrelevant, they&#039;re different operating systems and have very different requirements. Skype for iOS has seen quite a few updates (the addition of calling over 3G).

Then you go on to mention Apple being poised to introduce 10.7 and Face Time to iChat. Unless you&#039;ve been reading Steve Jobs&#039; diary, we won&#039;t know if this is true until next week. Even if it is, it&#039;ll be at least six months before anyone can get their hands on a release of 10.7 given that not a single beta has been sent to developers.

It&#039;s a good thing blog posts don&#039;t cost money to publish…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is complete fluff.</p>
<p>Yes, Mac share has finally increased to 10% in the USA, but that is still only 10%. That number alone disproves your entire argument, Windows should get a lot more playtime than MacOS.</p>
<p>Mentioning iPad at all is irrelevant, they&#8217;re different operating systems and have very different requirements. Skype for iOS has seen quite a few updates (the addition of calling over 3G).</p>
<p>Then you go on to mention Apple being poised to introduce 10.7 and Face Time to iChat. Unless you&#8217;ve been reading Steve Jobs&#8217; diary, we won&#8217;t know if this is true until next week. Even if it is, it&#8217;ll be at least six months before anyone can get their hands on a release of 10.7 given that not a single beta has been sent to developers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing blog posts don&#8217;t cost money to publish…</p>
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		<title>By: EB</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/15/why-no-love-for-mac-skype/#comment-391920</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t get your comment about a facebook app for the iPad. Facebook is a web based application. It is beautifully optimized for the iPad. The only reason for the native app in the iPhone was to allow things like uploading pictures and movies, things you cannot take on an iPad. Until there is a camera on the iPad, and even then, I don&#039;t see why the web app is not the best way to facebook on the iPad…. I&#039;ll often use the mobile web version of facebook over the application on my iPhone!
As for Skype, yeah I&#039;d love to see better support on the Mac, but one thing Skype does that Apple does NOT with things like iLife, etc., is support back to 10.3.9 and PPCs. It takes a little more time to bake in support going that far back, and allows me to skype with my friend in Africa who cannot afford to go out and get the latest and greatest hardware whenever it is released. Give &#039;em a break! Do you think Facetime will work with anything lower than Snow Leopard? With a PPC? I think not...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get your comment about a facebook app for the iPad. Facebook is a web based application. It is beautifully optimized for the iPad. The only reason for the native app in the iPhone was to allow things like uploading pictures and movies, things you cannot take on an iPad. Until there is a camera on the iPad, and even then, I don&#8217;t see why the web app is not the best way to facebook on the iPad…. I&#8217;ll often use the mobile web version of facebook over the application on my iPhone!<br />
As for Skype, yeah I&#8217;d love to see better support on the Mac, but one thing Skype does that Apple does NOT with things like iLife, etc., is support back to 10.3.9 and PPCs. It takes a little more time to bake in support going that far back, and allows me to skype with my friend in Africa who cannot afford to go out and get the latest and greatest hardware whenever it is released. Give &#8216;em a break! Do you think Facetime will work with anything lower than Snow Leopard? With a PPC? I think not&#8230;</p>
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