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	<title>Comments on: Why Apple Buddies Up to Frenemy Netflix</title>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crusader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never had a single popup window from Netflix running under Windows 7 or OS X.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never had a single popup window from Netflix running under Windows 7 or OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is probably a thought way out there in left field but who knows. Apple has been on a purchasing spree as of late.  Maybe they have the thoughts of purchasing netflix at some point?

I know I know probably way out in left field just a thought or food for thought :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably a thought way out there in left field but who knows. Apple has been on a purchasing spree as of late.  Maybe they have the thoughts of purchasing netflix at some point?</p>
<p>I know I know probably way out in left field just a thought or food for thought :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to like NetFlix.  But as long as they keep bombarding me with those infuriating popup windows (all over the web), I&#039;ll refrain from looking too deeply at them.  I just won&#039;t reward that type of behavior.  Sometimes, I worry myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to like NetFlix.  But as long as they keep bombarding me with those infuriating popup windows (all over the web), I&#8217;ll refrain from looking too deeply at them.  I just won&#8217;t reward that type of behavior.  Sometimes, I worry myself.</p>
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		<title>By: pb1994</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pb1994]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah those studios that hate apple are delusional.  they may be particular about how they like to do things, but they single handedly saved the music industry.  If it weren&#039;t for apple and their 99 cent a track model, we&#039;d all be still stealing stuff using napster.  

You can&#039;t blame Apple for other company&#039;s failures in the online music sales market.  All they have to do is cut a deal with the labels (which they apparently are willing to do, even better deals than with apple) and offer a compelling selection/price.  They have to market the service well (make it cool/hip) and make it easy to get the music onto portable devices.

So why does Amazon not do as well as Apple selling music?  They don&#039;t market it well and its not that easy to use/get onto portable devices.  This is why almost all of Apple&#039;s competitors in the music space have failed... they haven&#039;t made it simple and they haven&#039;t make it &quot;cool&quot;.  Its not because people want some magical subscription pricing model that nobody has stumbled upon yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah those studios that hate apple are delusional.  they may be particular about how they like to do things, but they single handedly saved the music industry.  If it weren&#8217;t for apple and their 99 cent a track model, we&#8217;d all be still stealing stuff using napster.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t blame Apple for other company&#8217;s failures in the online music sales market.  All they have to do is cut a deal with the labels (which they apparently are willing to do, even better deals than with apple) and offer a compelling selection/price.  They have to market the service well (make it cool/hip) and make it easy to get the music onto portable devices.</p>
<p>So why does Amazon not do as well as Apple selling music?  They don&#8217;t market it well and its not that easy to use/get onto portable devices.  This is why almost all of Apple&#8217;s competitors in the music space have failed&#8230; they haven&#8217;t made it simple and they haven&#8217;t make it &#8220;cool&#8221;.  Its not because people want some magical subscription pricing model that nobody has stumbled upon yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Galley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391007</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Galley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 02:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Apple has any kind of monopoly on the sales of digital downloads, it&#039;s because the record labels insisted on DRM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Apple has any kind of monopoly on the sales of digital downloads, it&#8217;s because the record labels insisted on DRM.</p>
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		<title>By: James Gardiner</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Gardiner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee guys, you couldn&#039;t be so WRONG!

The Studios and TV producers are NEVER going to let Apple get into a position of power like they are with music.

I am SURE Apple WANTS to offer all these services, but the producers are likely putting a very high price tag on it to make sure other services exist and are competitive.  APple is not likely to agree to this unless they can get a DEAL (Like the 99 rentals, then letting Amazon do 99 cent PURCHASE to make that great deal Steve just did seem second rate.  Steve probably jumped through hoops to get that.  Got he must have been pissed.)

AppleTV was a hobby as he was trying to get the content model in position.  That never happened and never will.  Right now Apple is being left behind.  Every other BOX has video and better then Apple.
Apple to get around this has had to push down a Wall in the Walled garden and let Netflix in as it is the only way that content would be able to get in...

Lets get it straight, and REAL media companies all see Apple is a dangerous, evil competitor that will turn on you if they see fit, and use the zealot following to f-u-up.

As consumers you may love Apple.  As a media business, Apples track record is evil and no company in Media wants anything to do with them.

Look at Amazon and books history.  Again another failing area for the same reasons.

Netflix is a MASSIVE failure for Apple.  Apple wanted to be what they are for music.. for Video.

Then there is the backflip on the ULA for developers. Again, EU was going to sue them, all big developers  where starting to hate Apple for pure evil reasons for the restriction.
He had to flip on the ULA eventually.

Then the iPod nano, what a disaster that will be.


You know its great to see Steve fail, he needs some grounding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee guys, you couldn&#8217;t be so WRONG!</p>
<p>The Studios and TV producers are NEVER going to let Apple get into a position of power like they are with music.</p>
<p>I am SURE Apple WANTS to offer all these services, but the producers are likely putting a very high price tag on it to make sure other services exist and are competitive.  APple is not likely to agree to this unless they can get a DEAL (Like the 99 rentals, then letting Amazon do 99 cent PURCHASE to make that great deal Steve just did seem second rate.  Steve probably jumped through hoops to get that.  Got he must have been pissed.)</p>
<p>AppleTV was a hobby as he was trying to get the content model in position.  That never happened and never will.  Right now Apple is being left behind.  Every other BOX has video and better then Apple.<br />
Apple to get around this has had to push down a Wall in the Walled garden and let Netflix in as it is the only way that content would be able to get in&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets get it straight, and REAL media companies all see Apple is a dangerous, evil competitor that will turn on you if they see fit, and use the zealot following to f-u-up.</p>
<p>As consumers you may love Apple.  As a media business, Apples track record is evil and no company in Media wants anything to do with them.</p>
<p>Look at Amazon and books history.  Again another failing area for the same reasons.</p>
<p>Netflix is a MASSIVE failure for Apple.  Apple wanted to be what they are for music.. for Video.</p>
<p>Then there is the backflip on the ULA for developers. Again, EU was going to sue them, all big developers  where starting to hate Apple for pure evil reasons for the restriction.<br />
He had to flip on the ULA eventually.</p>
<p>Then the iPod nano, what a disaster that will be.</p>
<p>You know its great to see Steve fail, he needs some grounding.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Apple will get rid of Netflix from the Apple TV if they decide to do a streaming movie service.  It was a natural progression of Netflix on the iPad and then iPhone and foretells the future of apps on Apple TV.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Apple will get rid of Netflix from the Apple TV if they decide to do a streaming movie service.  It was a natural progression of Netflix on the iPad and then iPhone and foretells the future of apps on Apple TV.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisdpratt</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisdpratt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Netflix&#039;s instant selection isn&#039;t that sparse. It&#039;s actually grown by leaps and bounds, and now that they have a deal with a couple major studios, it&#039;s only going to get better.

However, the Netflix streaming model is different than Apple&#039;s iTunes Store model. Instant streaming from Netflix will never (in its current state) see release-day streaming of titles. It&#039;ll take at least a month or so before new releases will be available that way. Additionally, unless Netflix can nail down some sort of Jesus-contract with all the majors studios out there, there selection will never include *everything*. Just as people with Netflix subscriptions don&#039;t cancel their subscriptions to services like HBO, there&#039;s room for both an iTunes subscription service and Netflix. There&#039;s no reason for Apple to remove Netflix from the Apple TV.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netflix&#8217;s instant selection isn&#8217;t that sparse. It&#8217;s actually grown by leaps and bounds, and now that they have a deal with a couple major studios, it&#8217;s only going to get better.</p>
<p>However, the Netflix streaming model is different than Apple&#8217;s iTunes Store model. Instant streaming from Netflix will never (in its current state) see release-day streaming of titles. It&#8217;ll take at least a month or so before new releases will be available that way. Additionally, unless Netflix can nail down some sort of Jesus-contract with all the majors studios out there, there selection will never include *everything*. Just as people with Netflix subscriptions don&#8217;t cancel their subscriptions to services like HBO, there&#8217;s room for both an iTunes subscription service and Netflix. There&#8217;s no reason for Apple to remove Netflix from the Apple TV.</p>
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		<title>By: joe c</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/09/13/why-apple-made-netflix-an-ally/#comment-391003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe c]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True Netflix&#039;s instant selection is sparse, but it&#039;s bound to get better.

I think it&#039;s just that Apple has its sights on offering TV shows and movies almost immediately after they come out and Netflix hasn&#039;t really done much to show they want a piece of that space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Netflix&#8217;s instant selection is sparse, but it&#8217;s bound to get better.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s just that Apple has its sights on offering TV shows and movies almost immediately after they come out and Netflix hasn&#8217;t really done much to show they want a piece of that space.</p>
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