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	<title>Comments on: Why Apple Should End Its Fight Against iPhone Jailbreaking</title>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/08/28/why-apple-should-end-its-fight-against-iphone-jailbreaking/#comment-440773</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 18:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JB cost APL money, plain and simple.  They are not bound by restrictions placed on the store -- 30% of ads, 30% of paid apps.  It&#039;s the same argument about piracy you hear all the time -- Hollywood&#039;s &quot;losing&quot; billions and billions of dollars despite most of the downloaders wouldn&#039;t have bought the movie anyway.

To those who JB for additional software features / banned apps:   why are you supporting a company who wants to restrict these types of applications?  Companies move to where the money is, and the more money they can make, the better.  Now because of people like you, the Motorola DroidX is equipped with an eFuse where a custom OS cannot loaded.  That said, it still doesn&#039;t restrict you from loading any application you want, on any market.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB cost APL money, plain and simple.  They are not bound by restrictions placed on the store &#8212; 30% of ads, 30% of paid apps.  It&#8217;s the same argument about piracy you hear all the time &#8212; Hollywood&#8217;s &#8220;losing&#8221; billions and billions of dollars despite most of the downloaders wouldn&#8217;t have bought the movie anyway.</p>
<p>To those who JB for additional software features / banned apps:   why are you supporting a company who wants to restrict these types of applications?  Companies move to where the money is, and the more money they can make, the better.  Now because of people like you, the Motorola DroidX is equipped with an eFuse where a custom OS cannot loaded.  That said, it still doesn&#8217;t restrict you from loading any application you want, on any market.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wild</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/08/28/why-apple-should-end-its-fight-against-iphone-jailbreaking/#comment-440772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Wild]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mmmm Anyone remember the update that bricked the first iphone?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmm Anyone remember the update that bricked the first iphone?</p>
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		<title>By: John Wild</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/08/28/why-apple-should-end-its-fight-against-iphone-jailbreaking/#comment-440771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Wild]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya that&#039;s why you can&#039;t install anything on osx if it&#039;s not though the app store either. WTF IS MICROSOFT DOING IN REDMOND?! HURRY UP AND GET RID OF MY PERMISSIONS!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya that&#8217;s why you can&#8217;t install anything on osx if it&#8217;s not though the app store either. WTF IS MICROSOFT DOING IN REDMOND?! HURRY UP AND GET RID OF MY PERMISSIONS!</p>
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		<title>By: John Wild</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/08/28/why-apple-should-end-its-fight-against-iphone-jailbreaking/#comment-440770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Wild]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ughhh can somebody explain to scotty-boy that if the iPhone had an open file system there wouldn&#039;t be any problem with patching exploits?

Lets say you buy a car. You drive it around, you like it but the fact that it doesn&#039;t have an aux port drives you nuts. But you bought the car, you&#039;re free to do whatever you want with it. You can install one. Yay music!

Now lets say your car is produced by Apple. You will have to find a radio station you like instead.

Basically... it&#039;s your phone you&#039;re free to install whatever you want on it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ughhh can somebody explain to scotty-boy that if the iPhone had an open file system there wouldn&#8217;t be any problem with patching exploits?</p>
<p>Lets say you buy a car. You drive it around, you like it but the fact that it doesn&#8217;t have an aux port drives you nuts. But you bought the car, you&#8217;re free to do whatever you want with it. You can install one. Yay music!</p>
<p>Now lets say your car is produced by Apple. You will have to find a radio station you like instead.</p>
<p>Basically&#8230; it&#8217;s your phone you&#8217;re free to install whatever you want on it.</p>
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		<title>By: SmokinRuffas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/08/28/why-apple-should-end-its-fight-against-iphone-jailbreaking/#comment-440768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SmokinRuffas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple is a controlling bunch of wankers...

If you BUY an iPhone... you own the the thing... so if you want to jailbreak it who the fuck is apple to stop you..

Its like buying a car and being told that you not allowed to change the wheels or the radio... cant wait for 4.1 to come out so that I can totally ignore it and jailbreak my phone again..

screw apple and steve jobbie
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple is a controlling bunch of wankers&#8230;</p>
<p>If you BUY an iPhone&#8230; you own the the thing&#8230; so if you want to jailbreak it who the fuck is apple to stop you..</p>
<p>Its like buying a car and being told that you not allowed to change the wheels or the radio&#8230; cant wait for 4.1 to come out so that I can totally ignore it and jailbreak my phone again..</p>
<p>screw apple and steve jobbie</p>
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		<title>By: AMDKilla</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Apple makes a lot of money per user from the carrier (I believe they get part of the monthly fee – not sure if that is still true). Jail broken phones mean that you aren’t tied to your carrier anymore.&quot;

I still don&#039;t see why carrier unlocks aren&#039;t allowed. If you get your iPhone through subsidy from a carrier, it means you entered a contract, for which you will still be charged even if you don&#039;t use it. So why would anyone pay for two carriers at once and only use one?

Personally, the PDF patch is annoying, as it means I won&#039;t be able to jailbreak my iPad when it gets delivered, but Apple arent going to want all of their iDevices in their retail stores being jailbroken, as it means that they wont function as most users expect. Jailbreakers (me included) run their iDevices with a level of technical understanding, enough to know what is going on. Most people that pick up an iPhone in one of Apple&#039;s retail stores don&#039;t understand the extra features, and cry foul of Apple, who should be seen to be providing the best service they can.

Funny enough, I don&#039;t see why Apple doesn&#039;t offer an unlocking service. They could easily run it through iTunes, and they could run a check to see if your contract has ended. If Apple offered people an unlock, even charging for it, there would be less people going through the effort of jailbreaking just for the unlock.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apple makes a lot of money per user from the carrier (I believe they get part of the monthly fee – not sure if that is still true). Jail broken phones mean that you aren’t tied to your carrier anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t see why carrier unlocks aren&#8217;t allowed. If you get your iPhone through subsidy from a carrier, it means you entered a contract, for which you will still be charged even if you don&#8217;t use it. So why would anyone pay for two carriers at once and only use one?</p>
<p>Personally, the PDF patch is annoying, as it means I won&#8217;t be able to jailbreak my iPad when it gets delivered, but Apple arent going to want all of their iDevices in their retail stores being jailbroken, as it means that they wont function as most users expect. Jailbreakers (me included) run their iDevices with a level of technical understanding, enough to know what is going on. Most people that pick up an iPhone in one of Apple&#8217;s retail stores don&#8217;t understand the extra features, and cry foul of Apple, who should be seen to be providing the best service they can.</p>
<p>Funny enough, I don&#8217;t see why Apple doesn&#8217;t offer an unlocking service. They could easily run it through iTunes, and they could run a check to see if your contract has ended. If Apple offered people an unlock, even charging for it, there would be less people going through the effort of jailbreaking just for the unlock.</p>
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		<title>By: Kwadwo Siaw-Marfo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kwadwo Siaw-Marfo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are a million reasons to keep jailbreaking.
1. Even though i am still using a 2g when the PDF exploit was discovered APPLE decided not to patch up the 2g guess where i found the patch.
2.the 2g does not support mms says Apple. but jailbreakers told me i can and i finally go on CYdia and find the mms exploit too.
3. Jailbreaking is not abt illegal apps and all, yes its one advantage that was discovered but thats what u guys decide to do.
4.One of the iphone&#039;s downsides is the lack of themeing. And after downloading winterboard from Cydia.u get all that!

we can go on and on abt the advantages of jailbreaking, like multitasking on the 2g.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a million reasons to keep jailbreaking.<br />
1. Even though i am still using a 2g when the PDF exploit was discovered APPLE decided not to patch up the 2g guess where i found the patch.<br />
2.the 2g does not support mms says Apple. but jailbreakers told me i can and i finally go on CYdia and find the mms exploit too.<br />
3. Jailbreaking is not abt illegal apps and all, yes its one advantage that was discovered but thats what u guys decide to do.<br />
4.One of the iphone&#8217;s downsides is the lack of themeing. And after downloading winterboard from Cydia.u get all that!</p>
<p>we can go on and on abt the advantages of jailbreaking, like multitasking on the 2g&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The company has released a new firmware update for the sole purpose of patching a hole that was being used to jailbreak handsets running iOS 4 as well&quot;

The author is either completely ignorant here, or he&#039;s being purposely misleading. I&#039;m a big fan of jailbreaking, but the PDF exploit (which is being used wonderfully by jailbreakme) is a massive security hole, exploitable by anyone for any purpose. To try to claim that this was some specific attack on jailbreaking is simply absurd.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The company has released a new firmware update for the sole purpose of patching a hole that was being used to jailbreak handsets running iOS 4 as well&#8221;</p>
<p>The author is either completely ignorant here, or he&#8217;s being purposely misleading. I&#8217;m a big fan of jailbreaking, but the PDF exploit (which is being used wonderfully by jailbreakme) is a massive security hole, exploitable by anyone for any purpose. To try to claim that this was some specific attack on jailbreaking is simply absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Fork</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fork]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s funny no one mentioned that Saurik actually released a fix to the same PDF exploit without it disabling your currently jailbroken software.

If it was really about the security issue, Apple would have done the same.  That&#039;s not to say Apple doesn&#039;t deserve credit for trying to fix the problem, they just did it in the most controlling way possible.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny no one mentioned that Saurik actually released a fix to the same PDF exploit without it disabling your currently jailbroken software.</p>
<p>If it was really about the security issue, Apple would have done the same.  That&#8217;s not to say Apple doesn&#8217;t deserve credit for trying to fix the problem, they just did it in the most controlling way possible.</p>
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		<title>By: nat130</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nat130]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jailbreakers make a tiny percentage of iDevice users. I&#039;d bet that a smaller percentage know how to get pirated games for iDevices. I doubt a hell of a lot that piracy of iApps will significantly destroy developers. If a developer actually makes a good game thats worth the money, they don&#039;t need to fear pirates, much like how only bad music artists need to be afraid of pirated songs. The good apps will still be bought by &gt;90% iDevice owners. So the piracy argument is a daft one, in my opinion.

I cannot think of a single reason (other than piracy) why jailbreaking should be fought against. Ok, so maybe Apple needs to distance itself from the &quot;shadier&quot; areas jailbreaks allow users to venture into, but that doesn&#039;t mean they should constantly be worried about the jailbreaks.

Besides, Jailbreakers were one step ahead of Apple since the beginning; the first game I played on my iTouch was a Pool game, from Installer.app, Summerboard and Winterboard actually made my device MINE with themes, and so many other additions that make the iDevices so much more.

And the PDF exploit? I bet Apple patched that up quickly due to embarrassment lol  Previously discovered exploits took awhile to surface, thanks to Apple&#039;s patches, and then the Dev&#039;s find a hole that jailbreaks via PDF, without a whole firmware re-install. Yeah, bet Apple wasn&#039;t impressed with that XD
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jailbreakers make a tiny percentage of iDevice users. I&#8217;d bet that a smaller percentage know how to get pirated games for iDevices. I doubt a hell of a lot that piracy of iApps will significantly destroy developers. If a developer actually makes a good game thats worth the money, they don&#8217;t need to fear pirates, much like how only bad music artists need to be afraid of pirated songs. The good apps will still be bought by &gt;90% iDevice owners. So the piracy argument is a daft one, in my opinion.</p>
<p>I cannot think of a single reason (other than piracy) why jailbreaking should be fought against. Ok, so maybe Apple needs to distance itself from the &#8220;shadier&#8221; areas jailbreaks allow users to venture into, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they should constantly be worried about the jailbreaks.</p>
<p>Besides, Jailbreakers were one step ahead of Apple since the beginning; the first game I played on my iTouch was a Pool game, from Installer.app, Summerboard and Winterboard actually made my device MINE with themes, and so many other additions that make the iDevices so much more.</p>
<p>And the PDF exploit? I bet Apple patched that up quickly due to embarrassment lol  Previously discovered exploits took awhile to surface, thanks to Apple&#8217;s patches, and then the Dev&#8217;s find a hole that jailbreaks via PDF, without a whole firmware re-install. Yeah, bet Apple wasn&#8217;t impressed with that XD</p>
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