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		<title>By: Luke Marsden</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-501344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke Marsden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are launching a PaaS LAMP offering called Hybrid Sites, based on our Hybrid Cluster product - watch this space!

And for now, check out our site at www.hybrid-cluster.com for more info on our platform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are launching a PaaS LAMP offering called Hybrid Sites, based on our Hybrid Cluster product &#8211; watch this space!</p>
<p>And for now, check out our site at <a href="http://www.hybrid-cluster.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hybrid-cluster.com</a> for more info on our platform.</p>
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		<title>By: rICh morrow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rICh morrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;We&#039;re (kinda) building the LAMP cloud...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our company, http://quicloud.com/products has been providing secure LAMP as a service installs for the last month, and it&#039;s been met with pretty good response so far.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By using the Rackspace Cloud offering, we build extremely secure, nicely configured full LAMP stacks for a one-time fee of $200 and a monthly ongoing fee of as low as $20. The security aspect of it is huge -- we only open up what you need, we secure every layer of the LAMP stack as much as humanly possible, and we run a Nessus-level scan over everything when we&#039;re done... delivering you a full report of vulnerabilities &amp; how we patched. We can also layer secured versions of Wordpress, Drupal, and Joomla! on top.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Essentially, the service does about 30-40 hours worth of Sr SysAd / Security Engineer work in just under an hour.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;re pricing it so that even independent Designers, Developers, and Bloggers can have a secure solution and not waste their time doing something they aren&#039;t trained to do -- getting a LAMP stack secured and properly configured for each and every client.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re (kinda) building the LAMP cloud&#8230;</p>
<p>Our company, <a href="http://quicloud.com/products" rel="nofollow">http://quicloud.com/products</a> has been providing secure LAMP as a service installs for the last month, and it&#8217;s been met with pretty good response so far.</p>
<p>By using the Rackspace Cloud offering, we build extremely secure, nicely configured full LAMP stacks for a one-time fee of $200 and a monthly ongoing fee of as low as $20. The security aspect of it is huge &#8212; we only open up what you need, we secure every layer of the LAMP stack as much as humanly possible, and we run a Nessus-level scan over everything when we&#8217;re done&#8230; delivering you a full report of vulnerabilities &amp; how we patched. We can also layer secured versions of WordPress, Drupal, and Joomla! on top.</p>
<p>Essentially, the service does about 30-40 hours worth of Sr SysAd / Security Engineer work in just under an hour.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re pricing it so that even independent Designers, Developers, and Bloggers can have a secure solution and not waste their time doing something they aren&#8217;t trained to do &#8212; getting a LAMP stack secured and properly configured for each and every client.</p>
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		<title>By: Thoughts on Open Source and Platform as a Service at Ted Leung on the Air</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thoughts on Open Source and Platform as a Service at Ted Leung on the Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 05:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] stack. An article on InfoQ gives the jumping off points to posts by Geva Perry and James Uruqhardt. There&#8217;s a lot of discussion which I&#8217;m not going to recapitulate, [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stack. An article on InfoQ gives the jumping off points to posts by Geva Perry and James Uruqhardt. There&#8217;s a lot of discussion which I&#8217;m not going to recapitulate, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: wllm</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wllm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Good point. I didn&#039;t specifically ask the Azure and GAE guys what their rationale for adding Java support was; I assumed based on their level of support WRT other technologies (mainly .Net working &lt;em&gt;way&lt;/em&gt; better than Java on Azure) and the priorities they assigned when they chose to implement first (mainly with Python launching well before Java for GAE).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To be clear, I&#039;m not knocking Java here. I was actually a Java engineer for 10 years before I took over Zend Framework; if I thought Java wasn&#039;t a great- if not the best- technology for a wide range of problems, I would have focussed my attention elsewhere sooner. I have no doubt that Google and MS added Java support to woo the very advanced- and very lucrative- Java crowd. And I think it&#039;s a win-win. But they obviously have to decide where to allocate resources, and every developer who&#039;s focussing on Java support in Azure is a developer who&#039;s not focussing on .Net.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All of that said, Java seems to be a much more strategic solution for GAE, if for no other reason than they aren&#039;t investing a ton of resources in building a full enterprise stack with all the bells and whistles like MS is with .Net.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope that clears up any confusion about what I wrote above. If I&#039;m not mistaken, we agree fully on this point. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the feedback in any case.
,Wil&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. I didn&#8217;t specifically ask the Azure and GAE guys what their rationale for adding Java support was; I assumed based on their level of support WRT other technologies (mainly .Net working <em>way</em> better than Java on Azure) and the priorities they assigned when they chose to implement first (mainly with Python launching well before Java for GAE).</p>
<p>To be clear, I&#8217;m not knocking Java here. I was actually a Java engineer for 10 years before I took over Zend Framework; if I thought Java wasn&#8217;t a great- if not the best- technology for a wide range of problems, I would have focussed my attention elsewhere sooner. I have no doubt that Google and MS added Java support to woo the very advanced- and very lucrative- Java crowd. And I think it&#8217;s a win-win. But they obviously have to decide where to allocate resources, and every developer who&#8217;s focussing on Java support in Azure is a developer who&#8217;s not focussing on .Net.</p>
<p>All of that said, Java seems to be a much more strategic solution for GAE, if for no other reason than they aren&#8217;t investing a ton of resources in building a full enterprise stack with all the bells and whistles like MS is with .Net.</p>
<p>I hope that clears up any confusion about what I wrote above. If I&#8217;m not mistaken, we agree fully on this point. :)</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback in any case.<br />
,Wil</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Lukasik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Lukasik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 03:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Your statement that &quot;Both Google and Microsoft saw Java support as a necessary evil to get their platforms off the ground.&quot; is based on what.. your biased opinion?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Banks, hospitals and multi-billion dollar enterprises don&#039;t run on LAMP -- they run on Java based platforms like IBM and Oracle.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s more reasonable to assume that Google wanted to attract seasoned enterprise developers than to suggest that they added Java support against their will.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;TJL&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your statement that &#8220;Both Google and Microsoft saw Java support as a necessary evil to get their platforms off the ground.&#8221; is based on what.. your biased opinion?</p>
<p>Banks, hospitals and multi-billion dollar enterprises don&#8217;t run on LAMP &#8212; they run on Java based platforms like IBM and Oracle.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more reasonable to assume that Google wanted to attract seasoned enterprise developers than to suggest that they added Java support against their will.</p>
<p>TJL</p>
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		<title>By: Who wants a PHP Cloud? Users of OSS that&#8217;s who. - Ideas&#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Who wants a PHP Cloud? Users of OSS that&#8217;s who. - Ideas&#8230;.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 20:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] week Geva Perry wrote a post published on GigaOm called Who Will Build the LAMP Cloud.  In it he speculated on current cloud providers that may be interested in building a PaaS [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] week Geva Perry wrote a post published on GigaOm called Who Will Build the LAMP Cloud.  In it he speculated on current cloud providers that may be interested in building a PaaS [...]</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 16:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;CloudIgniter is currently in beta as a forthcoming Heroku style cloud service for CodeIgniter php MVC framework. As Heroku only deals with Ruby apps, Cloudigniter will only handle Codeigniter framework. I believe hosting is at Engine Yard too.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CloudIgniter is currently in beta as a forthcoming Heroku style cloud service for CodeIgniter php MVC framework. As Heroku only deals with Ruby apps, Cloudigniter will only handle Codeigniter framework. I believe hosting is at Engine Yard too.</p>
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		<title>By: wllm</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wllm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s no doubt that PHP is a bit late to the party. Maybe precisely because of the strong hosting support you mention.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;If there are already hundreds of PHP hosters and our apps work perfectly fine on them, why switch?&quot; is the thinking. And this is a perfectly reasonable take on the cloud when you have customers and clients clambering for features and bugfixes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What PHPers are missing, on the whole, is the value proposition of the cloud beyond hosting. Scalability, availability, dead simple image and instance management. . . the list goes on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The PHPers I&#039;ve met who have tried cloud solutions are hooked. But how do we get the rest of the PHPers to try it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;,Wil&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that PHP is a bit late to the party. Maybe precisely because of the strong hosting support you mention.</p>
<p>&#8220;If there are already hundreds of PHP hosters and our apps work perfectly fine on them, why switch?&#8221; is the thinking. And this is a perfectly reasonable take on the cloud when you have customers and clients clambering for features and bugfixes.</p>
<p>What PHPers are missing, on the whole, is the value proposition of the cloud beyond hosting. Scalability, availability, dead simple image and instance management. . . the list goes on.</p>
<p>The PHPers I&#8217;ve met who have tried cloud solutions are hooked. But how do we get the rest of the PHPers to try it?</p>
<p>,Wil</p>
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		<title>By: wllm</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wllm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I meant in this list:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;Salesforce.com and VMware recently unveiled a Java-focused platform-as-a-service offering, VMForce.com. Meanwhile, Microsoft has Azure, a PaaS offering focused on the .Net stack, and startups Heroku and Engine Yard both deliver Ruby-on-Rails cloud platforms. But who’s going to offer a PaaS for LAMP?&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think you&#039;re right on with this list of PaaS providers for specific technologies, and I just wanted to point out that Google could be put down for Python in the same breath.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;,Wil&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant in this list:</p>
<p>&#8216;Salesforce.com and VMware recently unveiled a Java-focused platform-as-a-service offering, VMForce.com. Meanwhile, Microsoft has Azure, a PaaS offering focused on the .Net stack, and startups Heroku and Engine Yard both deliver Ruby-on-Rails cloud platforms. But who’s going to offer a PaaS for LAMP?&#8217;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right on with this list of PaaS providers for specific technologies, and I just wanted to point out that Google could be put down for Python in the same breath.</p>
<p>,Wil</p>
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		<title>By: Geva Perry</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/05/22/who-will-build-the-lamp-cloud/#comment-252114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geva Perry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 21:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I did mention GAE supports Python&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did mention GAE supports Python</p>
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