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		<title>By: HP/Palm Deal Final &#8212; Time to Get Busy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/29/microsoft-and-intel-are-the-biggest-losers-in-hp-palm%c2%a0deal/#comment-249797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HP/Palm Deal Final &#8212; Time to Get Busy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Android, and HP should prove that with its first effort. With Palm, HP&#8217;s can do this without input from Intel or Microsoft. HP [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Android, and HP should prove that with its first effort. With Palm, HP&#8217;s can do this without input from Intel or Microsoft. HP [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Schneider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;HP needs to follow lessons of a master.  Tablet Wars: http://goo.gl/fb/8gcjq&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP needs to follow lessons of a master.  Tablet Wars: <a href="http://goo.gl/fb/8gcjq" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/fb/8gcjq</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Johnson (CyKiller)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Johnson (CyKiller)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I agree that most up to this date have done a bad job but I am not talking about your implementation - I am talking about reinventing webOS for the PC space to only allow for software stack to replace HP&#039;s touchsmart and mediasmart. HP has always put effort into the touch-friendly MediaSmart and TouchSmart software layers to compensate for Windows&#039; deficiencies. This will improve their windows offering by killing the deficiencies of windows, using the skeletal system only and coupling it with the new created webOS UI layer for their x86+MS WinOS units. You can look at the Lenovo iDeaPad offering, HP explained software layers above, wePad, bumptop licensing their software for this purpose – all failing. HP using webOS as a software stack windows (techy devices)…..adds a lot of ease of usage for users and gives Palm webOS chance to gain notability for the platform by creating a frame for developers to transition their windows applications into card view.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;webOS is already so great, I think HP’s R&amp;D resources will produce and incorporate the platform in so many different ways to improve their line of products. In my opinion Intel and Microsoft can be kept happy by simply treating webOS for x86 not as a full OS but as a software stack to windows. When you think of it this way you start to understand why this will not affect any relationship or business in the PC space at all. In the mobile space – HP just made itself stronger…..they owned only one tenth of 1% of the market with their iPaq line. It is not like they were doing any justice in mobile OS selection or sales by only selling 100K units over its lifetime. It is an enhancement to the company in so many different ways and if implemented correctly it can be a game changer for HP+Palm…..all while keep current relationships solid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;CyKiller&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that most up to this date have done a bad job but I am not talking about your implementation &#8211; I am talking about reinventing webOS for the PC space to only allow for software stack to replace HP&#8217;s touchsmart and mediasmart. HP has always put effort into the touch-friendly MediaSmart and TouchSmart software layers to compensate for Windows&#8217; deficiencies. This will improve their windows offering by killing the deficiencies of windows, using the skeletal system only and coupling it with the new created webOS UI layer for their x86+MS WinOS units. You can look at the Lenovo iDeaPad offering, HP explained software layers above, wePad, bumptop licensing their software for this purpose – all failing. HP using webOS as a software stack windows (techy devices)…..adds a lot of ease of usage for users and gives Palm webOS chance to gain notability for the platform by creating a frame for developers to transition their windows applications into card view.</p>
<p>webOS is already so great, I think HP’s R&amp;D resources will produce and incorporate the platform in so many different ways to improve their line of products. In my opinion Intel and Microsoft can be kept happy by simply treating webOS for x86 not as a full OS but as a software stack to windows. When you think of it this way you start to understand why this will not affect any relationship or business in the PC space at all. In the mobile space – HP just made itself stronger…..they owned only one tenth of 1% of the market with their iPaq line. It is not like they were doing any justice in mobile OS selection or sales by only selling 100K units over its lifetime. It is an enhancement to the company in so many different ways and if implemented correctly it can be a game changer for HP+Palm…..all while keep current relationships solid.</p>
<p>CyKiller</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Johnson (Cykiller)</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/29/microsoft-and-intel-are-the-biggest-losers-in-hp-palm%c2%a0deal/#comment-249794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Johnson (Cykiller)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I agree that most up to this date have done a bad job but I am not talking about your implementation - I am talking about reinventing webOS for the PC space to only allow for software stack to replace HP&#039;s touchsmart and mediasmart. HP has always put effort into the touch-friendly MediaSmart and TouchSmart software layers to compensate for Windows&#039; deficiencies. This will improve their windows offering by killing the deficiencies of windows, using the skeletal system only and coupling it with the new created webOS UI layer for their x86+MS WinOS units. You can look at the Lenovo iDeaPad offering, HP explained software layers above, wePad, bumptop licensing their software for this purpose – all failing. HP using webOS as a software stack windows (techy devices)…..adds a lot of ease of usage for users and gives Palm webOS chance to gain notability for the platform by creating a frame for developers to transition their windows applications into card view.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;webOS is already so great, I think HP’s R&amp;D resources will produce and incorporate the platform in so many different ways to improve their line of products. In my opinion Intel and Microsoft can be kept happy by simply treating webOS for x86 not as a full OS but as a software stack to windows. When you think of it this way you start to understand why this will not effect any relationship or business in the PC space at all. In the mobile space – HP just made itself stronger…..they owned only a tenth of 1% of the market with their iPaq line. It is not they were doing any justice to the mobile OS selection only selling 100K units over its lifetime. It is an enhancement to the company in so many different ways and if implemented correctly it can be a game changer for HP+Palm…..all while keep current relationships solid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;CyKiller&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that most up to this date have done a bad job but I am not talking about your implementation &#8211; I am talking about reinventing webOS for the PC space to only allow for software stack to replace HP&#8217;s touchsmart and mediasmart. HP has always put effort into the touch-friendly MediaSmart and TouchSmart software layers to compensate for Windows&#8217; deficiencies. This will improve their windows offering by killing the deficiencies of windows, using the skeletal system only and coupling it with the new created webOS UI layer for their x86+MS WinOS units. You can look at the Lenovo iDeaPad offering, HP explained software layers above, wePad, bumptop licensing their software for this purpose – all failing. HP using webOS as a software stack windows (techy devices)…..adds a lot of ease of usage for users and gives Palm webOS chance to gain notability for the platform by creating a frame for developers to transition their windows applications into card view.</p>
<p>webOS is already so great, I think HP’s R&amp;D resources will produce and incorporate the platform in so many different ways to improve their line of products. In my opinion Intel and Microsoft can be kept happy by simply treating webOS for x86 not as a full OS but as a software stack to windows. When you think of it this way you start to understand why this will not effect any relationship or business in the PC space at all. In the mobile space – HP just made itself stronger…..they owned only a tenth of 1% of the market with their iPaq line. It is not they were doing any justice to the mobile OS selection only selling 100K units over its lifetime. It is an enhancement to the company in so many different ways and if implemented correctly it can be a game changer for HP+Palm…..all while keep current relationships solid.</p>
<p>CyKiller</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re expecting a Linux shell made for ARM to run atop Windows in x86? Just making sure I understand.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Top layering the OS, or putting a touch friendly UI over Windows has been tried many times, and has failed the same number of times. Microsoft themselves tried twice with two Origami Experience software packages for Windows slate UMPC&#039;s. It doesn&#039;t work. No desktop operating system crammed into a mobile device has.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re expecting a Linux shell made for ARM to run atop Windows in x86? Just making sure I understand.</p>
<p>Top layering the OS, or putting a touch friendly UI over Windows has been tried many times, and has failed the same number of times. Microsoft themselves tried twice with two Origami Experience software packages for Windows slate UMPC&#8217;s. It doesn&#8217;t work. No desktop operating system crammed into a mobile device has.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Johnson (CyKiller)</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/29/microsoft-and-intel-are-the-biggest-losers-in-hp-palm%c2%a0deal/#comment-249792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Johnson (CyKiller)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I think most are missing the point with what can be done with the webOS operating system. Concerning MS and Intel - it isn&#039;t getting any worst for them at all. HP will use webOS as a platform in the mobile touch space and then top layer it on touchscreens PC marktet with MICROSOFT WINDOWS using INTEL CHIPS. Currently netbook &#092; slate devices using windows 7 do a pad job comparing to a consumer electronic when its full techy (learning curve) device. Top layering the UI differiates big netbook tablet makers like Lenovo &#092; Bumptop option for ideapad, HP slate, or WePad etc... all try to couple Win 7 with good touch scheme to manipulate windows for the market. All have failed in my opinion and Bumptop is more of a show off layer than productive and innovative UI couple to Win 7 nettablets &#092; slates. WebOS is a different story and is a blend for prospering for HP, Intel, and MS - believe me - nothing changes at all for either of the companies. Change the articles heading please!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;CyKiller&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most are missing the point with what can be done with the webOS operating system. Concerning MS and Intel &#8211; it isn&#8217;t getting any worst for them at all. HP will use webOS as a platform in the mobile touch space and then top layer it on touchscreens PC marktet with MICROSOFT WINDOWS using INTEL CHIPS. Currently netbook &#092; slate devices using windows 7 do a pad job comparing to a consumer electronic when its full techy (learning curve) device. Top layering the UI differiates big netbook tablet makers like Lenovo &#092; Bumptop option for ideapad, HP slate, or WePad etc&#8230; all try to couple Win 7 with good touch scheme to manipulate windows for the market. All have failed in my opinion and Bumptop is more of a show off layer than productive and innovative UI couple to Win 7 nettablets &#092; slates. WebOS is a different story and is a blend for prospering for HP, Intel, and MS &#8211; believe me &#8211; nothing changes at all for either of the companies. Change the articles heading please!!</p>
<p>CyKiller</p>
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		<title>By: Hamsm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hamsm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 04:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m pretty sure Windows 7 was designed with touchscreen devices in mind:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://cnettv.cnet.com/touch-screen-features-windows-7/9742-1_53-50074521.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s not like MS wasn&#039;t aware that tablets were the future and that Vista wasn&#039;t meeting the needs of Tablet PC users. They went back to the drawing board with Windows 7 and made sure that multitouch controls were built into the OS. They even included a &quot;touch pack&quot; for Tablet PCs. Touch Screen controls was one of the biggest upgrades of Windows 7 over Vista.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When you look at Surface, Windows 7, Zune HD, Courier, Phone 7 and even Project Natal you realize that Microsoft has been obsessed with touch based controls for the past 18 months on all of their devices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBtEhQqS1dw&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Windows 7 was designed with touchscreen devices in mind:</p>
<p><a href="http://cnettv.cnet.com/touch-screen-features-windows-7/9742-1_53-50074521.html" rel="nofollow">http://cnettv.cnet.com/touch-screen-features-windows-7/9742-1_53-50074521.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like MS wasn&#8217;t aware that tablets were the future and that Vista wasn&#8217;t meeting the needs of Tablet PC users. They went back to the drawing board with Windows 7 and made sure that multitouch controls were built into the OS. They even included a &#8220;touch pack&#8221; for Tablet PCs. Touch Screen controls was one of the biggest upgrades of Windows 7 over Vista.</p>
<p>When you look at Surface, Windows 7, Zune HD, Courier, Phone 7 and even Project Natal you realize that Microsoft has been obsessed with touch based controls for the past 18 months on all of their devices.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBtEhQqS1dw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBtEhQqS1dw</a></p>
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		<title>By: Block</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Block]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 04:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;HP is not pulling the plug on the Slate. That is pure nonsense. People are so silly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Courier was a rendered concept video. The HP Slate is a very real product that is coming to market within the next few months. Microsoft pulled the plug on Courier before investing the money to make it a real product. HP has already spent 5 years developing the HP Slate software and hardware with many partners. Microsoft never even confirmed the Courier&#039;s existence while HP has spent the last few months marketing the HP Slate. There is no way that HP is going to stop making the Slate. A webOS tablet will take at least a year to get to market.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Courier would have been dumb because it didn&#039;t run Windows 7 or Windows Phone 7. It would have been a 3rd operating system for Microsoft to support and Microsoft would have had to make the hardware themselves. Courier didn&#039;t fit into Microsoft&#039;s plans. It makes more sense for MS to be promoting Windows Phone and Windows 7 tablets that other companies are making the hardware for.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP is not pulling the plug on the Slate. That is pure nonsense. People are so silly.</p>
<p>The Courier was a rendered concept video. The HP Slate is a very real product that is coming to market within the next few months. Microsoft pulled the plug on Courier before investing the money to make it a real product. HP has already spent 5 years developing the HP Slate software and hardware with many partners. Microsoft never even confirmed the Courier&#8217;s existence while HP has spent the last few months marketing the HP Slate. There is no way that HP is going to stop making the Slate. A webOS tablet will take at least a year to get to market.</p>
<p>The Courier would have been dumb because it didn&#8217;t run Windows 7 or Windows Phone 7. It would have been a 3rd operating system for Microsoft to support and Microsoft would have had to make the hardware themselves. Courier didn&#8217;t fit into Microsoft&#8217;s plans. It makes more sense for MS to be promoting Windows Phone and Windows 7 tablets that other companies are making the hardware for.</p>
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		<title>By: gbp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gbp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Kevin, are you sure you heard it right about pulling the plug on slate ? Hmm, that is one big decision. Probably makes sense. Win7 is not made for a touchscreen device. Period.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, are you sure you heard it right about pulling the plug on slate ? Hmm, that is one big decision. Probably makes sense. Win7 is not made for a touchscreen device. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: gbp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gbp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 03:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;You have a valid point about dealing with partners. HP has to deal with both Intel and Microsoft in the PC world. The mobile and Tablet business is different. They have risk loosing the mobile and tablet market if they wait for Microsoft and Intel to deliver. While Apple did not create the segment, they perfected it. HP doesn&#039;t want to sit on the bench while Apple sells millions of these. Besides HP realized that marrying hardware and software is the only way to give customers superior experience.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Intel is the biggest loser.For all its brainy power, Intel is missing on many things lately ( last few years). They totally screwed up that mobile division before selling to Marvell. Somehow they got Steve Jobs to let their chips on the Macs. Now they are having good time with Atom processor but no compelling offering from them in mobile market.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With Apple doing its own processors, Google working with ARM,nVidia and Samsung , Intel has only Nokia who are still figuring out how to write a decent operating system. So the big loser is Intel.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a valid point about dealing with partners. HP has to deal with both Intel and Microsoft in the PC world. The mobile and Tablet business is different. They have risk loosing the mobile and tablet market if they wait for Microsoft and Intel to deliver. While Apple did not create the segment, they perfected it. HP doesn&#8217;t want to sit on the bench while Apple sells millions of these. Besides HP realized that marrying hardware and software is the only way to give customers superior experience.</p>
<p>Intel is the biggest loser.For all its brainy power, Intel is missing on many things lately ( last few years). They totally screwed up that mobile division before selling to Marvell. Somehow they got Steve Jobs to let their chips on the Macs. Now they are having good time with Atom processor but no compelling offering from them in mobile market.</p>
<p>With Apple doing its own processors, Google working with ARM,nVidia and Samsung , Intel has only Nokia who are still figuring out how to write a decent operating system. So the big loser is Intel.</p>
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