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	<title>Comments on: India&#039;s Bharti Airtel to Enter Telecom&#039;s Top Five</title>
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		<title>By: Nikhil</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/15/indias-bharti-airtel-to-enter-telecoms-top-five/#comment-247781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nikhil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Why Singtel (273m subs) is not on your list of top 8 ?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Singtel (273m subs) is not on your list of top 8 ?</p>
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		<title>By: V.RAVICHANDER</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/15/indias-bharti-airtel-to-enter-telecoms-top-five/#comment-247780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[V.RAVICHANDER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 11:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Airtel has lost its trust in India, hence hey are expanding. The &#039;Phony  marketing&#039; techniques backed up cockroach approach to customer service, with Airtel having outsourced everything but to their waist strategy may not work in Africa!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In India, their fate would be known July 1,2010 after Mobile Number Portability(MNP) will be in operation.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Airtel has lost its trust in India, hence hey are expanding. The &#8216;Phony  marketing&#8217; techniques backed up cockroach approach to customer service, with Airtel having outsourced everything but to their waist strategy may not work in Africa!</p>
<p>In India, their fate would be known July 1,2010 after Mobile Number Portability(MNP) will be in operation.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhlesh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nikhlesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;That makes perfect sense, Thank you very much Will !!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes perfect sense, Thank you very much Will !!</p>
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		<title>By: gbp</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/15/indias-bharti-airtel-to-enter-telecoms-top-five/#comment-247778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gbp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Indian telecom sector needs another consolidation. The first consolidation between 1996-99 wasn&#039;t good enough. Half of the existing can be merged resulting in 4 - 6 major players.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian telecom sector needs another consolidation. The first consolidation between 1996-99 wasn&#8217;t good enough. Half of the existing can be merged resulting in 4 &#8211; 6 major players.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Croft</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/15/indias-bharti-airtel-to-enter-telecoms-top-five/#comment-247777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Croft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Ah, WordPress seems to have stripped some characters from that last link - you&#039;ll need to add square brackets around tt_news and backPid for it to work, like so:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;151.html?&amp;tx_ttnews[tt_news]=339&amp;tx_ttnews[backPid]=116&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, WordPress seems to have stripped some characters from that last link &#8211; you&#8217;ll need to add square brackets around tt_news and backPid for it to work, like so:</p>
<p>151.html?&amp;tx_ttnews[tt_news]=339&amp;tx_ttnews[backPid]=116</p>
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		<title>By: Will Croft</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/15/indias-bharti-airtel-to-enter-telecoms-top-five/#comment-247776</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Croft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Nikhlesh &amp; Chetan: the data is correct because we are looking at majority-owned markets here. There is a difference between Airtel Group and Bharti Group in that Bharti only owns about a third of Airtel itself (28.92% as of Q4).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If we were to take the parent, Bharti, as a group in this ranking, then they would appear far lower than Airtel on its own because none of India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh nor a potential Zain acquisition would register as a majority-owned subsidiary.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is why we show &lt;em&gt;Airtel&lt;/em&gt; as a group as they hold the direct ownership of the subsidiaries above.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The difference with the remaining markets - Seychelles, Jersey and Guernsey is that these are held directly by Bharti and not through Airtel and so aren&#039;t included in Airtel Group.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bharti itself then actually appears 369th with the majority (and full) ownership of just these three markets.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, a technicality, but a necessary one in this kind of analysis as you run the risk of double-counting a great many operators&#039; connections if you don&#039;t enforce a majority-ownership rule on a non-proportionate basis.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is all explained in the footnotes to the table in our PDF.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bharti themselves also concur on the 18 Airtel markets in their recent press release: http://www.bharti.com/151.html?&amp;tx_ttnews[tt_news]=339&amp;tx_ttnews[backPid]=116&amp;cHash=82e3712758&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikhlesh &amp; Chetan: the data is correct because we are looking at majority-owned markets here. There is a difference between Airtel Group and Bharti Group in that Bharti only owns about a third of Airtel itself (28.92% as of Q4).</p>
<p>If we were to take the parent, Bharti, as a group in this ranking, then they would appear far lower than Airtel on its own because none of India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh nor a potential Zain acquisition would register as a majority-owned subsidiary.</p>
<p>This is why we show <em>Airtel</em> as a group as they hold the direct ownership of the subsidiaries above.</p>
<p>The difference with the remaining markets &#8211; Seychelles, Jersey and Guernsey is that these are held directly by Bharti and not through Airtel and so aren&#8217;t included in Airtel Group.</p>
<p>Bharti itself then actually appears 369th with the majority (and full) ownership of just these three markets.</p>
<p>So, a technicality, but a necessary one in this kind of analysis as you run the risk of double-counting a great many operators&#8217; connections if you don&#8217;t enforce a majority-ownership rule on a non-proportionate basis.</p>
<p>This is all explained in the footnotes to the table in our PDF.</p>
<p>Bharti themselves also concur on the 18 Airtel markets in their recent press release: <a href="http://www.bharti.com/151.html?&#038;tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=339&#038;tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=116&#038;cHash=82e3712758" rel="nofollow">http://www.bharti.com/151.html?&#038;tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=339&#038;tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=116&#038;cHash=82e3712758</a></p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/15/indias-bharti-airtel-to-enter-telecoms-top-five/#comment-247775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;In the largest ever telecom takeover by an Indian firm, Bharti Airtel on Tuesday signed a deal with Kuwait-based Zain Telecom to buy its African business for $10.7 billion. No wonder they are in top 10.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the largest ever telecom takeover by an Indian firm, Bharti Airtel on Tuesday signed a deal with Kuwait-based Zain Telecom to buy its African business for $10.7 billion. No wonder they are in top 10.</p>
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		<title>By: Hardik Vania</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/15/indias-bharti-airtel-to-enter-telecoms-top-five/#comment-247774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hardik Vania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Chetan, Though numbers of subscriber numbers might not get converted in big revenue numbers(ARPU) in emerging markets currently, However it opens up big opportunities to grow revenues in future. I think that&#039;s why - Vodafone brough Hutch&#039;s india business and if i am not incorrect - It contributes significantly to Vodafone&#039;s Profits.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And it&#039;s worth noticing here - Even with 1 cent/min. call rate - Most of the telcos in india are making decent profit. So they can export this business model to conquer other markets too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My 2 cents.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;Hardik&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chetan, Though numbers of subscriber numbers might not get converted in big revenue numbers(ARPU) in emerging markets currently, However it opens up big opportunities to grow revenues in future. I think that&#8217;s why &#8211; Vodafone brough Hutch&#8217;s india business and if i am not incorrect &#8211; It contributes significantly to Vodafone&#8217;s Profits.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s worth noticing here &#8211; Even with 1 cent/min. call rate &#8211; Most of the telcos in india are making decent profit. So they can export this business model to conquer other markets too.</p>
<p>My 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: iamanshul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/15/indias-bharti-airtel-to-enter-telecoms-top-five/#comment-247773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iamanshul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;If only we could show ARPU on the list. It would be a more complete view.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only we could show ARPU on the list. It would be a more complete view.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The number of Bharti Airtel markets post Zain purchase will be 18 as Jersey, Guernsey and Seychelles are held by Bharti Group outside of Bharti Airtel.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of Bharti Airtel markets post Zain purchase will be 18 as Jersey, Guernsey and Seychelles are held by Bharti Group outside of Bharti Airtel.</p>
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