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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-578499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing wrong with doing research if it&#039;s public information, there are privacy settings.  And if people don&#039;t want to have their info used in research it shouldn&#039;t be posted.  I don&#039;t think anyone was wrong here...Just bored people looking for something to complain about...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong with doing research if it&#8217;s public information, there are privacy settings.  And if people don&#8217;t want to have their info used in research it shouldn&#8217;t be posted.  I don&#8217;t think anyone was wrong here&#8230;Just bored people looking for something to complain about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jessica</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-572499</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I soo I agree with you.. how patheric!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Facebook Draws a Map of the Connected World: Tech News &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-550077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Facebook Draws a Map of the Connected World: Tech News &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] between countries, and drew interactive maps based on the number of those connections. But Facebook threatened him with legal action and he was forced to delete the data, because his scraping of user profiles was against the site&#8217;s terms of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] between countries, and drew interactive maps based on the number of those connections. But Facebook threatened him with legal action and he was forced to delete the data, because his scraping of user profiles was against the site&#8217;s terms of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-290836</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People just dont understand what going on here, this is all about MONEY and clearly a demonstration of the &#039;ugly side&#039; to money and power. Money gives you power and power and money translate to nefarious intent or self-serving restrictions!

When facebook started there was none of the current restrictions and bullying that we see now, the restriction have even been extended to the actual users of facebook that ironically makes up facebook itself. 

When they started-off for instant you can have as many friends as possible but now users are been restricted as to the amount of friend requests they are permitted to make, which completely defeats the whole purpose of social networking. 

There are two aspects to social networking - ONE is networking with actual friends you already have and TWO making new friends. There some uppity people or users who would say this new stance of facebook is right in order to protect a users privacy but how many of the many current facebook users would raise their hands and honestly say they have never sent a facebook friend request to a stranger before? And if one things about it, how can a stranger who just wants to be your friend impinge on your privacy, all you have to do is not accept the request, their is no need for facebook to put in these restriction or any restriction for that matter, let the users decide if they want to accept friend requests from friends. I think the problem facebook has with this is just the increased traffic, which cost money to them. They would prefer you click on the adverts from complete likewise strangers instead of using the site to make new friends.  What some users dont realise is that in actuality facebook are the ones willfully infringing their rights, to privacy and to their personal content, be it written words or photos! They let developer use your data and content in anyway they chose and turn a blind eye because it brings in revenue! 

Its all about money and the more money facebook makes the more they want and the more they want the more they will try to control users and small business entrepreneurs who tries to use data openly available to other multimillion dollar companies.

In conclusion I believe that facebook has become too big even for themselves to manage their own intentions and wimps objectively and contructively and like everything that becomes too huge or too big or too tall, it will fall eventually, fall because of its own weight!

Going back to the original points in this thread - this is just another example of the &#039;big dog&#039; taking advantage of the &#039;small dogs&#039;, especially if the &#039;big dog&#039; see that the &#039;small dog&#039; is trying to threaten facebook&#039;s current monopoly position on social networking.

Facebook should own users data simply because they provide the space to store it or upload it no more so that the providers of free parking in cities dont own your cars if you decide to use their carparks.

Controlling people never works indefinitely, social networking and attitudes towards social networks is constantly evolving and facebook should evolve with it by giving its users what they want not what they think they needd or eventually users will become turned off with facebook, like they eventually got turned off hi5 or the many other now archaic social networking sites of yesteryears!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People just dont understand what going on here, this is all about MONEY and clearly a demonstration of the &#8216;ugly side&#8217; to money and power. Money gives you power and power and money translate to nefarious intent or self-serving restrictions!</p>
<p>When facebook started there was none of the current restrictions and bullying that we see now, the restriction have even been extended to the actual users of facebook that ironically makes up facebook itself. </p>
<p>When they started-off for instant you can have as many friends as possible but now users are been restricted as to the amount of friend requests they are permitted to make, which completely defeats the whole purpose of social networking. </p>
<p>There are two aspects to social networking &#8211; ONE is networking with actual friends you already have and TWO making new friends. There some uppity people or users who would say this new stance of facebook is right in order to protect a users privacy but how many of the many current facebook users would raise their hands and honestly say they have never sent a facebook friend request to a stranger before? And if one things about it, how can a stranger who just wants to be your friend impinge on your privacy, all you have to do is not accept the request, their is no need for facebook to put in these restriction or any restriction for that matter, let the users decide if they want to accept friend requests from friends. I think the problem facebook has with this is just the increased traffic, which cost money to them. They would prefer you click on the adverts from complete likewise strangers instead of using the site to make new friends.  What some users dont realise is that in actuality facebook are the ones willfully infringing their rights, to privacy and to their personal content, be it written words or photos! They let developer use your data and content in anyway they chose and turn a blind eye because it brings in revenue! </p>
<p>Its all about money and the more money facebook makes the more they want and the more they want the more they will try to control users and small business entrepreneurs who tries to use data openly available to other multimillion dollar companies.</p>
<p>In conclusion I believe that facebook has become too big even for themselves to manage their own intentions and wimps objectively and contructively and like everything that becomes too huge or too big or too tall, it will fall eventually, fall because of its own weight!</p>
<p>Going back to the original points in this thread &#8211; this is just another example of the &#8216;big dog&#8217; taking advantage of the &#8216;small dogs&#8217;, especially if the &#8216;big dog&#8217; see that the &#8216;small dog&#8217; is trying to threaten facebook&#8217;s current monopoly position on social networking.</p>
<p>Facebook should own users data simply because they provide the space to store it or upload it no more so that the providers of free parking in cities dont own your cars if you decide to use their carparks.</p>
<p>Controlling people never works indefinitely, social networking and attitudes towards social networks is constantly evolving and facebook should evolve with it by giving its users what they want not what they think they needd or eventually users will become turned off with facebook, like they eventually got turned off hi5 or the many other now archaic social networking sites of yesteryears!</p>
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		<title>By: papsyface</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-266166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[papsyface]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Last comment didn&#039;t seem to go through...]
Brain,

The post never mentioned the researcher having &#039;no money&#039;, but that he doesn&#039;t have the _required_ amount of money to be a test case. If he were to go up against a multi-billion dollar company on such a grey area like this, it could end up costing both sides millions of dollars when everything is said and done. There&#039;s no question that Facebook has that kind of money, but it&#039;s pretty unlikely that he does. 

Anyway, how is the amount of money he has at all relevant to your comment? The amount of money someone has doesn&#039;t define what they&#039;re capable of. More often than not, it&#039;s the opposite of that. 

In response to the actual post:

I don&#039;t think the guy did anything wrong. I also don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair that he&#039;s being singled out. Do you really think that Yahoo, Google, Bing, AOL, HotBot, AllTheWeb or ANY of the other major search engines went to Facebook and asked for permission before indexing their site?

I highly doubt it. I don&#039;t remember any of them asking me if they could index MY site. Even if I had the same exact agreement as Facebook does, my site would still be crawled to fetch that agreement. There&#039;s no way that the owners of SEs manually read every single site&#039;s agreement that they index, they simply follow robots.txt and that&#039;s that. 

There&#039;s something very wrong here. IF all major search engines were required to fully read Facebook&#039;s terms of service and contact Facebook to get permission, the site very likely wouldn&#039;t have even half of the users that it does.

What is it that he did that was so wrong? The fact that he was honest about it? What if he intended to create his own search engine? I&#039;m sure if he had the money to fund it (or the support of someone who does), he&#039;d have a damn good chance of winning.

I do think it&#039;s interesting that the same company who retains your data indefinitely after you&#039;ve &quot;deleted&quot; your account has a problem with him keeping the data he collected.]]></description>
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Brain,</p>
<p>The post never mentioned the researcher having &#8216;no money&#8217;, but that he doesn&#8217;t have the _required_ amount of money to be a test case. If he were to go up against a multi-billion dollar company on such a grey area like this, it could end up costing both sides millions of dollars when everything is said and done. There&#8217;s no question that Facebook has that kind of money, but it&#8217;s pretty unlikely that he does. </p>
<p>Anyway, how is the amount of money he has at all relevant to your comment? The amount of money someone has doesn&#8217;t define what they&#8217;re capable of. More often than not, it&#8217;s the opposite of that. </p>
<p>In response to the actual post:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the guy did anything wrong. I also don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair that he&#8217;s being singled out. Do you really think that Yahoo, Google, Bing, AOL, HotBot, AllTheWeb or ANY of the other major search engines went to Facebook and asked for permission before indexing their site?</p>
<p>I highly doubt it. I don&#8217;t remember any of them asking me if they could index MY site. Even if I had the same exact agreement as Facebook does, my site would still be crawled to fetch that agreement. There&#8217;s no way that the owners of SEs manually read every single site&#8217;s agreement that they index, they simply follow robots.txt and that&#8217;s that. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s something very wrong here. IF all major search engines were required to fully read Facebook&#8217;s terms of service and contact Facebook to get permission, the site very likely wouldn&#8217;t have even half of the users that it does.</p>
<p>What is it that he did that was so wrong? The fact that he was honest about it? What if he intended to create his own search engine? I&#8217;m sure if he had the money to fund it (or the support of someone who does), he&#8217;d have a damn good chance of winning.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s interesting that the same company who retains your data indefinitely after you&#8217;ve &#8220;deleted&#8221; your account has a problem with him keeping the data he collected.</p>
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		<title>By: Julez</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-245817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I think were missing the point.   This goes much farther then what people imagine.  The robots.txt file is just one of a few avenues that hackers have known for years.  The problem is though that its the basis of much of what is done on the net and the basis also for what just can&#039;t be changed on a whim.  The laws out there will limit us and as we all know, whom we can&#039;t control, we lock up or sue to death.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think were missing the point.   This goes much farther then what people imagine.  The robots.txt file is just one of a few avenues that hackers have known for years.  The problem is though that its the basis of much of what is done on the net and the basis also for what just can&#8217;t be changed on a whim.  The laws out there will limit us and as we all know, whom we can&#8217;t control, we lock up or sue to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Social Milestone &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UPDATED: Facebook Data Deleted After Lawsuit Threat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-245816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Social Milestone &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UPDATED: Facebook Data Deleted After Lawsuit Threat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/   Share and [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Three Easy Ways to Grow Your Mafia in Mafia Wars &#124; Mafia Wars Central</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-245815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Three Easy Ways to Grow Your Mafia in Mafia Wars &#124; Mafia Wars Central]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] UPDATED: Facebook Data Deleted After Lawsuit Threat [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: A Backdoor Business Model for the &#8216;New Economy&#8217; at Daniel&#8217;s Noodles</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-245814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Backdoor Business Model for the &#8216;New Economy&#8217; at Daniel&#8217;s Noodles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Additional Reading: A report on GigaOM by Matthew Ingram, Facebook Data Deleted After Lawsuit Threat, which I noticed subsequent to finishing this article, substantiates most of the assumptions I am [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Additional Reading: A report on GigaOM by Matthew Ingram, Facebook Data Deleted After Lawsuit Threat, which I noticed subsequent to finishing this article, substantiates most of the assumptions I am [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian S Hall</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/04/01/facebook-data-deleted-after-lawsuit-threat/#comment-245813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian S Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;So, a guy with no money was able to do this?
WTF Facebook.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, a guy with no money was able to do this?<br />
WTF Facebook.</p>
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