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	<title>Comments on: Apple Supplier Audit Reveals Child Labor, More Violations</title>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, wait, HP hasn&#039;t conducted a publicly-availble audit of their factory partners! I almost forgot. That&#039;s mighty.... convenient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, wait, HP hasn&#8217;t conducted a publicly-availble audit of their factory partners! I almost forgot. That&#8217;s mighty&#8230;. convenient.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2010/03/01/apple-supplier-audit-reveals-child-labor-more-violations/#comment-382147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really, the only way to truly solve this is to bring Apple&#039;s factories back under it&#039;s direct ownership. While I realize there is little I can do directly about this, I really have a problem with the idea that a company&#039;s entire manufacturing processes can be farmed out to still other companies. If Apple, and Apple directly, controlled these factories, this would not be an issue. That said I&#039;d also much rather that they built at least some of these machines in Canada or in the States, but then all of you would cry about the pricing. 

It&#039;s better than them doing nothing, however. If they cannot get an employer to play by the rules, they terminate the relationship. I&#039;d sure like to see HP&#039;s labour relations record.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, the only way to truly solve this is to bring Apple&#8217;s factories back under it&#8217;s direct ownership. While I realize there is little I can do directly about this, I really have a problem with the idea that a company&#8217;s entire manufacturing processes can be farmed out to still other companies. If Apple, and Apple directly, controlled these factories, this would not be an issue. That said I&#8217;d also much rather that they built at least some of these machines in Canada or in the States, but then all of you would cry about the pricing. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s better than them doing nothing, however. If they cannot get an employer to play by the rules, they terminate the relationship. I&#8217;d sure like to see HP&#8217;s labour relations record.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make it sound like Apple is employing children to work in sweatshops making iMacs. 

When whats really happening is a small factory in the far east, is hiring people a few weeks before they are of legal working age. and probably to support a family. 

It&#039;s really not the end of the world, or even close to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make it sound like Apple is employing children to work in sweatshops making iMacs. </p>
<p>When whats really happening is a small factory in the far east, is hiring people a few weeks before they are of legal working age. and probably to support a family. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really not the end of the world, or even close to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lava</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you even read the report? Apple TERMINATED the contract with a factory that was involved in repeated violation.

Here, let me do some of the work for you:

Page 18: &quot; When Apple investigated further, we uncovered additional records and conducted worker interviews that revealed excessive working hours and seven days of continuous work. When confronted with this information, the facility provided Apple with accurate timecards. Based on the repeat core violation and inadequate actions, Apple is TERMINATING all business with this facility.&quot;

Does that sound like consequences to you? Sure does to me.

How about this:

Page 4: &quot;As a result of our audits and corrective actions, foreign workers have been reimbursed $2.2 million in recruitment fee overcharges.&quot;

Page 12: &quot;Working with the consultant, the facility implemented a new payroll system to ensure proper wage calculations. Apple also required the facility to repay workers whose piece-rate pay had resulted in underpayment during the previous year—bringing their monthly pay up to the level of minimum wage.&quot;

I don&#039;t know how to say this politely, but RTF Report.

And get of your moral high horse where it&#039;s fashionable to act all superior while doing nothing and sacrificing nada. The report isn&#039;t about Apple merely investigating, it&#039;s about Apple investigating AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

/rant off]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you even read the report? Apple TERMINATED the contract with a factory that was involved in repeated violation.</p>
<p>Here, let me do some of the work for you:</p>
<p>Page 18: &#8221; When Apple investigated further, we uncovered additional records and conducted worker interviews that revealed excessive working hours and seven days of continuous work. When confronted with this information, the facility provided Apple with accurate timecards. Based on the repeat core violation and inadequate actions, Apple is TERMINATING all business with this facility.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that sound like consequences to you? Sure does to me.</p>
<p>How about this:</p>
<p>Page 4: &#8220;As a result of our audits and corrective actions, foreign workers have been reimbursed $2.2 million in recruitment fee overcharges.&#8221;</p>
<p>Page 12: &#8220;Working with the consultant, the facility implemented a new payroll system to ensure proper wage calculations. Apple also required the facility to repay workers whose piece-rate pay had resulted in underpayment during the previous year—bringing their monthly pay up to the level of minimum wage.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how to say this politely, but RTF Report.</p>
<p>And get of your moral high horse where it&#8217;s fashionable to act all superior while doing nothing and sacrificing nada. The report isn&#8217;t about Apple merely investigating, it&#8217;s about Apple investigating AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.</p>
<p>/rant off</p>
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		<title>By: Damnit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Damnit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was working a pretty shitty jobs when I was 13 or so here in Canada, so when I&#039;m reading that there are some 15 year olds working, I don&#039;t think child labour is the right term.  If Canada all of a sudden changed it&#039;s minimum working age to 33, that doesn&#039;t mean that every one under 33 is a child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was working a pretty shitty jobs when I was 13 or so here in Canada, so when I&#8217;m reading that there are some 15 year olds working, I don&#8217;t think child labour is the right term.  If Canada all of a sudden changed it&#8217;s minimum working age to 33, that doesn&#8217;t mean that every one under 33 is a child.</p>
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		<title>By: Vox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that it&#039;d be great if Apple did more...but...are we gonna put HP, Dell and all the rest of the US computer companies to the same wall? or is this just an &quot;apple has to do it because...it&#039;s apple&quot; thing? I&#039;ve never seen anything like this report from HP, for instance..have they ever done it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it&#8217;d be great if Apple did more&#8230;but&#8230;are we gonna put HP, Dell and all the rest of the US computer companies to the same wall? or is this just an &#8220;apple has to do it because&#8230;it&#8217;s apple&#8221; thing? I&#8217;ve never seen anything like this report from HP, for instance..have they ever done it?</p>
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