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	<title>Comments on: Clicker Gets $11M to Become Brand Name for Finding Web TV</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think OVGuide will have a problem if the industry gets shaken up. I could be wrong but I suspect their main bread and butter is porn anyways. Take away their porn and I think the traffic would be quite a bit less.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Clicker may have a longer vision in mind. They mention that they stay away from illegal websites so maybe they have an idea of some upcoming drama.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is linking to sites with illegal content breaking the law? I mean how would one know what is legal on the site and what is not legal. I know some hosts forbid linking to sites like 10starmovies and the like. What about linking to http://www.Veoh.com or http://www.Youtube.com since they are also always in court. Or what about directories like http://www.OVDirectory.com or http://www.DMOZ.org ? that link to other sites from user submitted suggestions. If this was the case then anyone linking to any other site may have a lawsuit waiting or could be implicated. That would be quite the mess!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think OVGuide will have a problem if the industry gets shaken up. I could be wrong but I suspect their main bread and butter is porn anyways. Take away their porn and I think the traffic would be quite a bit less.</p>
<p>Clicker may have a longer vision in mind. They mention that they stay away from illegal websites so maybe they have an idea of some upcoming drama.</p>
<p>Is linking to sites with illegal content breaking the law? I mean how would one know what is legal on the site and what is not legal. I know some hosts forbid linking to sites like 10starmovies and the like. What about linking to <a href="http://www.Veoh.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Veoh.com</a> or <a href="http://www.Youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Youtube.com</a> since they are also always in court. Or what about directories like <a href="http://www.OVDirectory.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.OVDirectory.com</a> or <a href="http://www.DMOZ.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.DMOZ.org</a> ? that link to other sites from user submitted suggestions. If this was the case then anyone linking to any other site may have a lawsuit waiting or could be implicated. That would be quite the mess!</p>
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		<title>By: Clicker Adds Live Video to Its Programming Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clicker Adds Live Video to Its Programming Guide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 17:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] TV episodes. The startup, which officially launched its programming guide last November, recently raised an $11 million Series B round led by JAFCO Ventures and including previous investors Benchmark Capital and Redpoint [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TV episodes. The startup, which officially launched its programming guide last November, recently raised an $11 million Series B round led by JAFCO Ventures and including previous investors Benchmark Capital and Redpoint [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Anderssen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Anderssen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been researching the webtv field for a university project.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The developments are very interesting. There are 2 broad categories of websites/businesses in this field.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The first consists of what I call &quot;forerunners&quot;/&quot;visionares&quot;. These were the first to develop webtv, taking advantage of abunding piracy. In terms of audience, they have a broader reach than the &quot;legal&quot; category. Examples: Watch-Movies, TVShack, SurfTheChannel.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The second wave consists of (semi-)legal, mostly US entrerprises(LLCs): Yidio( abunding pirated content for tv shows), SideReel ( abunding pirated content for tv shows), OVGuide( linking to illegal content for movies/tv shows), TV-Links.eu ( tv shows), CastTV ( tv shows).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;US companies have an implicit high-risk due to the aggressive legal campaign against piracy that seems sometimes blind even to common sense.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are also a great number of lawsuits already open for the &quot;visionares&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I expect a lot of drama to follow ( see the latest Veoh bankruptcy).&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been researching the webtv field for a university project.</p>
<p>The developments are very interesting. There are 2 broad categories of websites/businesses in this field.</p>
<p>The first consists of what I call &#8220;forerunners&#8221;/&#8221;visionares&#8221;. These were the first to develop webtv, taking advantage of abunding piracy. In terms of audience, they have a broader reach than the &#8220;legal&#8221; category. Examples: Watch-Movies, TVShack, SurfTheChannel.</p>
<p>The second wave consists of (semi-)legal, mostly US entrerprises(LLCs): Yidio( abunding pirated content for tv shows), SideReel ( abunding pirated content for tv shows), OVGuide( linking to illegal content for movies/tv shows), TV-Links.eu ( tv shows), CastTV ( tv shows).</p>
<p>US companies have an implicit high-risk due to the aggressive legal campaign against piracy that seems sometimes blind even to common sense.</p>
<p>There are also a great number of lawsuits already open for the &#8220;visionares&#8221;.</p>
<p>I expect a lot of drama to follow ( see the latest Veoh bankruptcy).</p>
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		<title>By: TiVo, switched video, Clicker and irony &#171; Endeavour Partners</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TiVo, switched video, Clicker and irony &#171; Endeavour Partners]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] a few days earlier, Clicker, a service that in some ways appears inspired by TiVo, aiming to bring a TiVo-like experience to web TV garnered $11m in funding [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a few days earlier, Clicker, a service that in some ways appears inspired by TiVo, aiming to bring a TiVo-like experience to web TV garnered $11m in funding [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shakir Razak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shakir Razak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Clicker has a better competitor for quicker and more intuitive results in the form of boot-strapped start-up www.Setjam.com .&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;re looking for something to watch and just want to watch it, it&#039;ll just get you there (like Google) in the minimum of clicks and across free streaming, download or integrated with netflix, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They&#039;ve also got a cool TV Anywhere-compatible widget.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, while there&#039;s definitely a market here, I&#039;m wondering if it might be too early or too late at this specific point in time in terms of &#039;normal&#039; users who are used to all the other branding touch-point opportunities of networks promoting their sites, established tv guides promoting themselves and extending functionality, the larger aggregators such as tv.com, youtube, hulu and the potential of IMDB/Amazon, and then the fall-back of Google/Bing?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just thinking aloud.........&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Shakir Razak&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Clicker has a better competitor for quicker and more intuitive results in the form of boot-strapped start-up <a href="http://www.Setjam.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Setjam.com</a> .</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for something to watch and just want to watch it, it&#8217;ll just get you there (like Google) in the minimum of clicks and across free streaming, download or integrated with netflix, etc.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve also got a cool TV Anywhere-compatible widget.</p>
<p>However, while there&#8217;s definitely a market here, I&#8217;m wondering if it might be too early or too late at this specific point in time in terms of &#8216;normal&#8217; users who are used to all the other branding touch-point opportunities of networks promoting their sites, established tv guides promoting themselves and extending functionality, the larger aggregators such as tv.com, youtube, hulu and the potential of IMDB/Amazon, and then the fall-back of Google/Bing?</p>
<p>Just thinking aloud&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Shakir Razak</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Freeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;It really amazes me how OVGuide goes under the radar in stories like this... they have mounds of traffic, and one of the few profitable companies in the space... They are impressive- yet, given little credit because they don&#039;t give into the PR cash cows,&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really amazes me how OVGuide goes under the radar in stories like this&#8230; they have mounds of traffic, and one of the few profitable companies in the space&#8230; They are impressive- yet, given little credit because they don&#8217;t give into the PR cash cows,</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Baron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Gosh, even our half-built Magma site with no funding and no PR effort and has more traffic than Clicker.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, even our half-built Magma site with no funding and no PR effort and has more traffic than Clicker.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Gannes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Gannes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Davis and Alan - I don&#039;t disagree with you at all. Where Clicker is the kind of company that gets tons of meetings at CES just a month after it launches, OVGuide and Yidio are pulling in great actual numbers. That&#039;s a disparity where Clicker will have to prove itself, and VC dollars alone are not going to do it. But both kinds of assets have value.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Davis and Alan &#8211; I don&#8217;t disagree with you at all. Where Clicker is the kind of company that gets tons of meetings at CES just a month after it launches, OVGuide and Yidio are pulling in great actual numbers. That&#8217;s a disparity where Clicker will have to prove itself, and VC dollars alone are not going to do it. But both kinds of assets have value.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Warms</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Warms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Davis - Great point. It&#039;s not about the raise, it&#039;s about the reach and profitability, right?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I commented on NewTeeVee&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;- Liz – great write up! I think your readers would be interested in hearing about Yidio.com in the context of this raise –&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We agree the online tv space is heating up – Yidio.com , whose funding you covered back in November (I am on BOD), has also been growing like a weed. Compared to the 750K users mentioned above they are doing about 11 million visits a month, 45MM or so page views, and are very profitable. &quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;–Al&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davis &#8211; Great point. It&#8217;s not about the raise, it&#8217;s about the reach and profitability, right?</p>
<p>As I commented on NewTeeVee</p>
<p>&#8220;- Liz – great write up! I think your readers would be interested in hearing about Yidio.com in the context of this raise –</p>
<p>We agree the online tv space is heating up – Yidio.com , whose funding you covered back in November (I am on BOD), has also been growing like a weed. Compared to the 750K users mentioned above they are doing about 11 million visits a month, 45MM or so page views, and are very profitable. &#8220;</p>
<p>–Al</p>
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		<title>By: Davis Freeberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davis Freeberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;in terms of branding and industry recognition, Clicker is doing the best job so far of being a television guide for the web.&quot; - I&#039;m not sure that I agree with this statement.  According to Quancast Clicker.com is getting 26,000 unique visitors a month while OVGuide.com brings in 11.5 million.  That&#039;s a pretty large discrepancy to be declaring Clicker the winner.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;in terms of branding and industry recognition, Clicker is doing the best job so far of being a television guide for the web.&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure that I agree with this statement.  According to Quancast Clicker.com is getting 26,000 unique visitors a month while OVGuide.com brings in 11.5 million.  That&#8217;s a pretty large discrepancy to be declaring Clicker the winner.</p>
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