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		<title>By: This Week in Review: Who’s responsible for local news, and Google plays hardball with China &#124; Mark Coddington</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[This Week in Review: Who’s responsible for local news, and Google plays hardball with China &#124; Mark Coddington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] up with commentary on this move, so suffice it to say I’m only scratching the surface here. (GigaOm has a nice starter for opinions outside of the usual tech-blog suspects.) Many Google- and [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up with commentary on this move, so suffice it to say I’m only scratching the surface here. (GigaOm has a nice starter for opinions outside of the usual tech-blog suspects.) Many Google- and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review: Who&#8217;s responsible for local news, and Google plays hardball with China » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[This Week in Review: Who&#8217;s responsible for local news, and Google plays hardball with China » Nieman Journalism Lab]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] up with commentary on this move, so suffice it to say I&#8217;m only scratching the surface here. (GigaOm has a nice starter for opinions outside of the usual tech-blog suspects.) Many Google- and [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up with commentary on this move, so suffice it to say I&#8217;m only scratching the surface here. (GigaOm has a nice starter for opinions outside of the usual tech-blog suspects.) Many Google- and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Das</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Das]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems China has a system that mixes Communistic ideas (Top heavy controls) with that of Capitalism (open and free market). This bad mix does not do justice to either one of them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My simple principle (Idiot&#039;s guide?) on transfer of wealth is that you can suck it one way only to a certain limit and then the system itself collapses. Asia or Europe ... it does not matter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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<p>It seems China has a system that mixes Communistic ideas (Top heavy controls) with that of Capitalism (open and free market). This bad mix does not do justice to either one of them.</p>
<p>My simple principle (Idiot&#8217;s guide?) on transfer of wealth is that you can suck it one way only to a certain limit and then the system itself collapses. Asia or Europe &#8230; it does not matter.</p>
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		<title>By: deware</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deware]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Overall, the announcement is much more problematic for China than for Google. This is the first time that a Western company admit publicly that business condition in China renders operations unprofitable, I&#039;ll bet that after that investors in the internet industry in China will think twice before pouring millions in the market without prospect of ROI.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall, the announcement is much more problematic for China than for Google. This is the first time that a Western company admit publicly that business condition in China renders operations unprofitable, I&#8217;ll bet that after that investors in the internet industry in China will think twice before pouring millions in the market without prospect of ROI.</p>
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		<title>By: jayko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Contrary to the poster that China is going to collapse, China will be fine without google.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reason why Google is losing to Baidu is that Google is a western company and does business with western mentality.  Instead of serving what the local customer wants by developing custom products for the market, like most american companies (ie. serving boat cars like the Bel Air to Asian and European tiny roads in the 50s) Google make the mistakes of other american companies that is drowned to extinction in foreign markets.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Contrary to the knowledge of Americans, Google is being used as a political tool by the NED.  It is through facebook and twitter that created the ensemble protest in Iran, the riots in China are also caused by US stirring the pot via these networks.  China just had enough of the US causing disturbance in its internal politics.  China after all isnt causing rebellion among US populace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2010 will be the nadir of US and Chinese relations.  We will see a return to cold war relations unseen before, if the US keeps continue this intransigence, this may escalate into dangerous territory.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;War between China and US may go hot if Obama isnt careful.  Economic war usually evolves to something that in the result to a hot physical war.  If the US thinks China is easy to bomb, be careful with what you wish for.  A country that cannot pacify Iraq, Afghanistan will launch a war with China is all the more idiocy.  A war with China will be suicide, as like the USSR, China does have a doomsday device as well.  Humanity must be prepared to survive in nuclear winter that will cover most of earth if trigger happy americans decide this is the only way out for them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The US should be careful with what they wish for, pissing off the Chinese will only hasten the collapse of the US economy.  There are emergency talks now in China about unloading treasury bonds some time this year to coincide with big reserve gold purchases as well as the floating of the OPEC currency gulfo.  Once the treasury bonds are unleashed, Americans have to be prepared to have long line ups at the gas pumps as the petro dollar dies.  The death of the petro dollar will be the death nail to the US military.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to the poster that China is going to collapse, China will be fine without google.</p>
<p>The reason why Google is losing to Baidu is that Google is a western company and does business with western mentality.  Instead of serving what the local customer wants by developing custom products for the market, like most american companies (ie. serving boat cars like the Bel Air to Asian and European tiny roads in the 50s) Google make the mistakes of other american companies that is drowned to extinction in foreign markets.</p>
<p>Contrary to the knowledge of Americans, Google is being used as a political tool by the NED.  It is through facebook and twitter that created the ensemble protest in Iran, the riots in China are also caused by US stirring the pot via these networks.  China just had enough of the US causing disturbance in its internal politics.  China after all isnt causing rebellion among US populace.</p>
<p>2010 will be the nadir of US and Chinese relations.  We will see a return to cold war relations unseen before, if the US keeps continue this intransigence, this may escalate into dangerous territory.</p>
<p>War between China and US may go hot if Obama isnt careful.  Economic war usually evolves to something that in the result to a hot physical war.  If the US thinks China is easy to bomb, be careful with what you wish for.  A country that cannot pacify Iraq, Afghanistan will launch a war with China is all the more idiocy.  A war with China will be suicide, as like the USSR, China does have a doomsday device as well.  Humanity must be prepared to survive in nuclear winter that will cover most of earth if trigger happy americans decide this is the only way out for them.</p>
<p>The US should be careful with what they wish for, pissing off the Chinese will only hasten the collapse of the US economy.  There are emergency talks now in China about unloading treasury bonds some time this year to coincide with big reserve gold purchases as well as the floating of the OPEC currency gulfo.  Once the treasury bonds are unleashed, Americans have to be prepared to have long line ups at the gas pumps as the petro dollar dies.  The death of the petro dollar will be the death nail to the US military.</p>
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		<title>By: vidcrayzee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vidcrayzee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;A tongue in cheek update on the China situation from Google&#039;s Android, http://blog.beema.com.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tongue in cheek update on the China situation from Google&#8217;s Android, <a href="http://blog.beema.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.beema.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I live in China and I love Google. It is too sad to hear Google may exit China. But if this really happens, China will become an isolated territory again. Its economy will collaps and the country will bo back to 1960s.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in China and I love Google. It is too sad to hear Google may exit China. But if this really happens, China will become an isolated territory again. Its economy will collaps and the country will bo back to 1960s.</p>
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		<title>By: Kt D</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kt D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Kudos to Google for getting angry and threatening to go back to its original mission statement--&quot;do no evil.&quot;  For too long, has it changed around its basic purpose just to please the Chinese government.
Still, there may be some long-term implications for the king of all search engines.  Right now, the company can surely retain its powerful position, even if it loses a good majority of users.  But, as the years progress and the number of Chinese internet users grows, it could be missing out on the single largest market.
There is an interesting video on all of this at Newsy.com.  It summarizes conflicts between the company and the highly controlling and still rather centralized Chinese government.  Take a look:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.newsy.com/videos/google-and-china-face-off&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Google for getting angry and threatening to go back to its original mission statement&#8211;&#8221;do no evil.&#8221;  For too long, has it changed around its basic purpose just to please the Chinese government.<br />
Still, there may be some long-term implications for the king of all search engines.  Right now, the company can surely retain its powerful position, even if it loses a good majority of users.  But, as the years progress and the number of Chinese internet users grows, it could be missing out on the single largest market.<br />
There is an interesting video on all of this at Newsy.com.  It summarizes conflicts between the company and the highly controlling and still rather centralized Chinese government.  Take a look:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsy.com/videos/google-and-china-face-off" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsy.com/videos/google-and-china-face-off</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I have to wonder since Google was already making some core concessions on doing business in China and all the hurdles Poutine so kindly outlined, if the hacking wasnt a final straw in a tall pile, not because it was from China but because Google discovered WHO in China it initiated from.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wouldnt be surprised if it was someone blatantly flaunting whom they were in the Chinese technological landscape.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder since Google was already making some core concessions on doing business in China and all the hurdles Poutine so kindly outlined, if the hacking wasnt a final straw in a tall pile, not because it was from China but because Google discovered WHO in China it initiated from.</p>
<p>I wouldnt be surprised if it was someone blatantly flaunting whom they were in the Chinese technological landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: Das</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Das]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Eideard,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree with your intent. Our (US) engagement instead of opposition has helped China advance. In an oblique way, credit goes to Sam Walton (of Walmart), Texas Instruments (that produced the first chip) and oil technology (that was born in Texas) plus a whole lot more. Absolutely no doubt about that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is also another fact about the human brain that we have discovered. I will summarize it
It is that the number of connections/combinations  the neurons can make in an average brain is close to the number of known particles ! That means any person in any part of the world is a potential genius in whatever he/she chooses to focus upon. This idea is hard to sink in. While US is proud of certain things, India is proud of it&#039;s stuff and another country feels it is incapable of progress. Belief is reality to the believer. It is what we end up manifesting. It is about how we psyche ourselves !&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Eideard,</p>
<p>I agree with your intent. Our (US) engagement instead of opposition has helped China advance. In an oblique way, credit goes to Sam Walton (of Walmart), Texas Instruments (that produced the first chip) and oil technology (that was born in Texas) plus a whole lot more. Absolutely no doubt about that.</p>
<p>There is also another fact about the human brain that we have discovered. I will summarize it<br />
It is that the number of connections/combinations  the neurons can make in an average brain is close to the number of known particles ! That means any person in any part of the world is a potential genius in whatever he/she chooses to focus upon. This idea is hard to sink in. While US is proud of certain things, India is proud of it&#8217;s stuff and another country feels it is incapable of progress. Belief is reality to the believer. It is what we end up manifesting. It is about how we psyche ourselves !</p>
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