Comments on: Apple Misses Windows 7 Bootcamp Deadline, Apparently Everyone Except Me Really Cares

By: Will

Will — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:56:44 +0000

I have the same problem. You just HAVE to boot with a wired keyboard. I think it is because the system isnt looking for wireless hardware at this point in startup.Its annoying but you just have to pot up with it :(

By: Quimmy

Quimmy — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:42:25 +0000

^^
what a turd…

By: Brian

Brian — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:10:26 +0000

You jest, but I also have that same issue. I REALLY want to make some multi-touch apps, but Apple only really has support for it in their iPhone. They also don’t have as good a story for supporting it in web apps like you can with Silverlight. It’s killing me to have to make apps on Windows, but I’ve been craving this technology ever since I visited Perceptive Pixel and used one of Jeff Han’s wall sized screens that he made for CNN.

My first thought was that I wanted to use VMWare fusion to run Windows 7 to develop multi-touch apps, but my guess is that you’re right that the Mac won’t send the multi-touch info into the VM.

Did you ever get Windows 7 multi-touch apps working on your mac with Bootcamp?

By: Pita.O

Pita.O — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:38:36 +0000

nuff said:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1587789/apple-releases-bootcamp-windows

By: Triene

Triene — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:22:34 +0000

The only reason I care to boot in Windows is to run Windows-only games, because I am a big gamer and hate missing out on PC-only titles. So until more game devs get with the program, I’m stuck.

I got Windows 7 because I could get it for the $30 student price. Only reason. Truly.

Every other thing besides some games, I can do (and prefer to do) on my Mac.

By: HardwareRequirements

HardwareRequirements — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:59:18 +0000

Sure, you don’t need windows for pretty much anything you do. But then, most people don’t need a new computer (mac or not) for anything they do. Email, word processing, spreadsheets, can pretty much be done on very old hardware.
So let’s look at what does need good hardware (and can’t be done via virtualizaiton):
1) GAMES (many games simply don’t run on Macs, particularly newer games)
2) Professional Applications (there are both windows and mac exclusives)
While Mac’s do support both of these, it is limited. Games affect a far larger demographic of computer users. If you don’t play games, or use professional applications, then you really don’t need windows on a mac at all. But you can’t simply ignore the huge number of people who do play games – Apple didn’t, and bootcamp was born.

By: DJG

DJG — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:09:48 +0000

I bought my first Mac the other day, an iMac 27 i7. Very costly, but worth it. I use Macs and PCs at work on a regular basis editing and producing video and developing websites. I bought the Mac for my home use for two reasons; I always loved the Mac hardware and now it can run Windows 7. HURAAH! But wait, it can’t–well not yet without jury rigging it to work. Yeah, I could jury rig it, but for the kind of price I paid for an iMac, I shouldn’t have to. Apple – one last comment – get it done. The expansion of your sales will depend on how you handle this.

By: Pita.O

Pita.O — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:46:46 +0000

I read through a better 2/3 of these comments and also the well-written posts. I kinda admire Liam because he made it clear that he leans Mac. The only fault I find with Liam’s position is that he evaluates his usage pattern as normal and every other comment that gives reason for needing Windows is an extreme, minority user.

In the first place, Apple does knows the value of playing in the Intel processor world. Their bottom line makes that clear. From my point of view, for instance, I have 3 macs in use in my home. If they were Mac OS only, they’d be a mix of mac and windows computers. The fact that you can dual boot is good business for Apple.

Apple felt coy and even over-confident to support Windows dual boot until their research showed that Windows 7 is too compelling a competition. Let’s not be naive apologists. We are consumers. Don’t fool yourself with this Apple-fan-club-ishness and remember we are just consumers, not apologists for big businesses. We seem to be our worst enemies. Worse of all, don’t delude yourself into thinking that the slippage of that deadline has nothing to do with some trepidation around the immense success of Windows 7.

I notice that people feel that if you buy a hardware (Mac) made by a company we all love (Apple), we must be crazy to exercise a liberty to use any OS of our choice. Company love must really mean a lot. IBM tried to do this and got so badly hated for it. People felt really empowered by the introduction of clones that would allow you to install any OS you wanted. So, here’s my thought: I like Snow Leopard. I also like Windows 7. I should be free to pick up any hardware of my choice. For servers, my choice hardware is Dell; for laptops, it is MacBook Pro. The Apple business model requires you to buy a Mac OS for each MacBook Pro and that’s fine because I am getting the cutest piece of hardware I know. That business model also limits how to set up dual boots to a partition manager-type piece supplied by Apple itself, known as BootCamp. Like I already said, this flexibility (even if it’s just a psychological sense of not being locked into one minority OS) is good for Apple business.
People should be free to use whatever software they like. Most people that feel free to call people’s products names like ‘trash’ cannot write “Hello world” and make it run on more than on piece of hardware.

Mac OS X has a simple job to do: Upgrade an existing UNIX OS (they did not write) and make it work on only their own brand of hardware. Creating the minimum set of drivers to support their core components should not even be relegated to a mere service pack if there was no business decision riding behind it.

Fear as well as hate creates tunnel vision. Apple is known for great foresight and amazing designs but in not figuring out that BootCamp is more important to Apple than it is to Microsoft is tunnel vision.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:57:14 +0000

Liam – agree completely. iWork does it for me with a very old copy of Office for Mac just for the odd time I really need to open something in Excel. Why would you need to dual boot your mac – cannot understand that at all. You’re not the only one.

By: Shaji

Shaji — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:04:45 +0000

As a light business user on a Mac Book Air, I have never needed Boot Camp either, so far. But I admit I’m running out of options since some of the new the SaaS applications we use require .Net…