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	<title>Comments on: Why the Cloud Won&#8217;t Seduce Me From My Mac, At Least Not Yet</title>
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		<title>By: DTNick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/12/11/why-the-cloud-wont-seduce-me-from-my-mac-at-least-not-yet/#comment-374470</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DTNick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I don&#039;t quite understand the I-don&#039;t-use--so-I-don&#039;t-really-need-a-Mac-any-longer argument. Just because one doesn&#039;t always use Apple&#039;s own apps doesn&#039;t make them any less of a Mac user... :s

I can just as easily use Windows for most the stuff I do. As an editor I work mostly in a word processor, web browser, and email client. Sure, I can do all that on Windows or via web apps, and both do a reasonable job at those tasks, but it just isn&#039;t the same as doing it on a Mac, where I have grown acquainted to just about every nuance, quirk, and cool feature that the OS offers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I don&#8217;t quite understand the I-don&#8217;t-use&#8211;so-I-don&#8217;t-really-need-a-Mac-any-longer argument. Just because one doesn&#8217;t always use Apple&#8217;s own apps doesn&#8217;t make them any less of a Mac user&#8230; :s</p>
<p>I can just as easily use Windows for most the stuff I do. As an editor I work mostly in a word processor, web browser, and email client. Sure, I can do all that on Windows or via web apps, and both do a reasonable job at those tasks, but it just isn&#8217;t the same as doing it on a Mac, where I have grown acquainted to just about every nuance, quirk, and cool feature that the OS offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The cloud&quot; is really getting hyped these days, but I don&#039;t believe cloud computing will be able to replace desktop computing anytime soon. No amount of Flash and/or JS could ever replicate apps like Photoshop or the entire iLife suite. In its current form, &quot;the cloud&quot; is a new name for technology that&#039;s been around but has been put to new use. Is storing data on a remote server *that* revolutionary? We&#039;ve been doing it for years. It&#039;s what&#039;s happening on the client side that&#039;s changing how we use remote storage (in conjunction with server-side processing), so there will always be a need for a physical computer. Security is also a huge issue, especially for businesses. Even with the most stringent security precautions, it would only take one ill-intentioned employee or misplaced HDD for a company&#039;s sensitive information to be compromised. How can a business be sure that failed HDDs containing their information are physically destroyed and don&#039;t make it into the wrong hands? Take browser incompatibility and network strain (especially with ISPs putting limits on users&#039; bandwidth consumption) into consideration and you can see why &quot;cloud computing&quot; won&#039;t be ready for prime time in the near future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The cloud&#8221; is really getting hyped these days, but I don&#8217;t believe cloud computing will be able to replace desktop computing anytime soon. No amount of Flash and/or JS could ever replicate apps like Photoshop or the entire iLife suite. In its current form, &#8220;the cloud&#8221; is a new name for technology that&#8217;s been around but has been put to new use. Is storing data on a remote server *that* revolutionary? We&#8217;ve been doing it for years. It&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening on the client side that&#8217;s changing how we use remote storage (in conjunction with server-side processing), so there will always be a need for a physical computer. Security is also a huge issue, especially for businesses. Even with the most stringent security precautions, it would only take one ill-intentioned employee or misplaced HDD for a company&#8217;s sensitive information to be compromised. How can a business be sure that failed HDDs containing their information are physically destroyed and don&#8217;t make it into the wrong hands? Take browser incompatibility and network strain (especially with ISPs putting limits on users&#8217; bandwidth consumption) into consideration and you can see why &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; won&#8217;t be ready for prime time in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just had to laugh at reading this Mike chap saying he&#039;s a &quot;power user&quot; and then listing the things that he used.  Sorry, but wanting your photos in a hierarchical folder format doesn&#039;t make one a power user.

For my part, I wouldn&#039;t dream of switching to Windows having finally found the OS that delivers the promise of Unix goodness with a decent UI.  I still frequently rejoice at the flexibility it gives me and I am utterly bemused why this Mike chap is throwing the baby out with the bath water: you don&#039;t like Mail and iPhoto etc ... great, don&#039;t use &#039;em!

Now don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;ve my share of gripes with Apple.  However, I constantly weigh and balance those and for now it keeps coming down on the Apple side.  Reading Mike&#039;s post, he didn&#039;t express one single issue which would make Windows the better choice, only what would make other apps that run on OS X anyway better for him ... it&#039;s heavily laden melodramatic overreaction imo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had to laugh at reading this Mike chap saying he&#8217;s a &#8220;power user&#8221; and then listing the things that he used.  Sorry, but wanting your photos in a hierarchical folder format doesn&#8217;t make one a power user.</p>
<p>For my part, I wouldn&#8217;t dream of switching to Windows having finally found the OS that delivers the promise of Unix goodness with a decent UI.  I still frequently rejoice at the flexibility it gives me and I am utterly bemused why this Mike chap is throwing the baby out with the bath water: you don&#8217;t like Mail and iPhoto etc &#8230; great, don&#8217;t use &#8216;em!</p>
<p>Now don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;ve my share of gripes with Apple.  However, I constantly weigh and balance those and for now it keeps coming down on the Apple side.  Reading Mike&#8217;s post, he didn&#8217;t express one single issue which would make Windows the better choice, only what would make other apps that run on OS X anyway better for him &#8230; it&#8217;s heavily laden melodramatic overreaction imo.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles W. Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles W. Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Skeptic;

I would include all those excellent Mac OS qualities you list under the &quot;elegance&quot; canopy collectively.

Michael Logue, I agree with you too. Speaking as one who has only had home/office access to broadband for three months after 12 years on slow (26,400 bps on good days) dialup. I empathize, and your points are well-taken.

CM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Skeptic;</p>
<p>I would include all those excellent Mac OS qualities you list under the &#8220;elegance&#8221; canopy collectively.</p>
<p>Michael Logue, I agree with you too. Speaking as one who has only had home/office access to broadband for three months after 12 years on slow (26,400 bps on good days) dialup. I empathize, and your points are well-taken.</p>
<p>CM</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use an iMac day to day for it&#039;s style, reliability and ease of use. When it&#039;s time to work I login to www.cloudnine.org - it delivers the applications I need for business to me no matter what computer I happen to be using - Windows, Linux, Mac or even my smartphone.

Ultimately the cloud makes sense, even if you are a self-professed geek. A well managed enterprise IT infrastructure will always run rings around a home setup in terms of speed, reliability and security - not to mention costing less!

A good Cloud provider allows allows you to adopt a hybrid approach -  I can use the Apple Mail client in 10.6 instead / alongside Outlook 2007 if I wish - giving me all of the benefits of the Cloud model of computing + choice of desktop applications, desktop OS and the ability to work offline (if in a limited fashion).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use an iMac day to day for it&#8217;s style, reliability and ease of use. When it&#8217;s time to work I login to <a href="http://www.cloudnine.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cloudnine.org</a> &#8211; it delivers the applications I need for business to me no matter what computer I happen to be using &#8211; Windows, Linux, Mac or even my smartphone.</p>
<p>Ultimately the cloud makes sense, even if you are a self-professed geek. A well managed enterprise IT infrastructure will always run rings around a home setup in terms of speed, reliability and security &#8211; not to mention costing less!</p>
<p>A good Cloud provider allows allows you to adopt a hybrid approach &#8211;  I can use the Apple Mail client in 10.6 instead / alongside Outlook 2007 if I wish &#8211; giving me all of the benefits of the Cloud model of computing + choice of desktop applications, desktop OS and the ability to work offline (if in a limited fashion).</p>
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		<title>By: The Skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Skeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You use a Mac only for the elegance?  Wow... that is damning a product with faint praise!

I use OS X because it helps me to be more productive for day to day activities than I am with any version of any other operating system (including Windows 7).

Using Windows, often it is a struggle to do a basic job that is easy in OS X.

For example:

o Move/Copy files with Drag and Drop that works consistently esp with Spring Loaded folders
o Quick access to files and applications (Stacks - no equivalent in Windows)
o Quicklook - saving enormous time with emailed attachements (especially)
o Automator - making it easy to automate repetitive tasks
o Services - So powerful and easy to share data between apps
o Built in, flexible, search tools (W7 search is terrible in comparison to Command-F in the Finder!).
o Mail/iCal thrash Outlook
o One version of the OS that does everything I need including built in Active Directory and Exchange Support (my Mac works anywhere).
o UNIX security no need to run CPU intensive anti virus etc.

Windows 7 is pretty at some levels, has gained part of the Dock functionality, and has an interesting feature in the form of &quot;Libraries&quot;.

Google stuff is useful, portable and accessible anywhere.  However, without a network connection, you are stuffed. Functionality is limited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You use a Mac only for the elegance?  Wow&#8230; that is damning a product with faint praise!</p>
<p>I use OS X because it helps me to be more productive for day to day activities than I am with any version of any other operating system (including Windows 7).</p>
<p>Using Windows, often it is a struggle to do a basic job that is easy in OS X.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<p>o Move/Copy files with Drag and Drop that works consistently esp with Spring Loaded folders<br />
o Quick access to files and applications (Stacks &#8211; no equivalent in Windows)<br />
o Quicklook &#8211; saving enormous time with emailed attachements (especially)<br />
o Automator &#8211; making it easy to automate repetitive tasks<br />
o Services &#8211; So powerful and easy to share data between apps<br />
o Built in, flexible, search tools (W7 search is terrible in comparison to Command-F in the Finder!).<br />
o Mail/iCal thrash Outlook<br />
o One version of the OS that does everything I need including built in Active Directory and Exchange Support (my Mac works anywhere).<br />
o UNIX security no need to run CPU intensive anti virus etc.</p>
<p>Windows 7 is pretty at some levels, has gained part of the Dock functionality, and has an interesting feature in the form of &#8220;Libraries&#8221;.</p>
<p>Google stuff is useful, portable and accessible anywhere.  However, without a network connection, you are stuffed. Functionality is limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Logue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Logue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, todays buzz word: cloud computing.  Back in the day it was time sharing, then thin client computing.  It goes by many names, but it boils down to who controls data (some of it yours). The powers that be have always been against personal computers.  They want control.  Ever dealt with IT?

For those who choose to live in the cloud, I merely mention the sidekick fiasco.

As an addenda I might ask, who has had not had a problem when gmail has gone down, or mobileme self destructs, or the cell phone towers are out, or a widespread power outage takes everything down. What about a serious earthquake in California which destroys acres of server farms.  Or your data is stored in Bangladesh and a revolution breaks out. Or you happen to live or be in an area that offers only dialup.  Yes there are such places, I live in one.  Cloud computing has its advantages, but as an adjunct, not the whole solution.

A last word.  You mean you would rather trust Google?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, todays buzz word: cloud computing.  Back in the day it was time sharing, then thin client computing.  It goes by many names, but it boils down to who controls data (some of it yours). The powers that be have always been against personal computers.  They want control.  Ever dealt with IT?</p>
<p>For those who choose to live in the cloud, I merely mention the sidekick fiasco.</p>
<p>As an addenda I might ask, who has had not had a problem when gmail has gone down, or mobileme self destructs, or the cell phone towers are out, or a widespread power outage takes everything down. What about a serious earthquake in California which destroys acres of server farms.  Or your data is stored in Bangladesh and a revolution breaks out. Or you happen to live or be in an area that offers only dialup.  Yes there are such places, I live in one.  Cloud computing has its advantages, but as an adjunct, not the whole solution.</p>
<p>A last word.  You mean you would rather trust Google?</p>
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		<title>By: Shallow Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shallow Hal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doyle just chose looks over brains.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doyle just chose looks over brains.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blogger was bought by Google and then left to languish for years. Blogger is now all but abandoned. Plus, the Blogger templates look totally antiquated... like they came out of the 1950&#039;s. And just like the rest of Google&#039;s apps, there is no human tech support to contact if you ever need it. Check out wordpress.com instead of blogger... you won&#039;t regret it. The people at wordpress are ACTIVELY involved and are ACTIVELY making improvements on a daily basis. And their templates? Absolutely gorgeous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogger was bought by Google and then left to languish for years. Blogger is now all but abandoned. Plus, the Blogger templates look totally antiquated&#8230; like they came out of the 1950&#8242;s. And just like the rest of Google&#8217;s apps, there is no human tech support to contact if you ever need it. Check out wordpress.com instead of blogger&#8230; you won&#8217;t regret it. The people at wordpress are ACTIVELY involved and are ACTIVELY making improvements on a daily basis. And their templates? Absolutely gorgeous.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dump Mail.app for Gmail and iCal for Google Calendar? Nice. But I am using all four and have best of both worlds -- my data available anywhere from the cloud &amp; Mac apps elegance at home on my computer...

IMAP, CalDAV, BusySync, Address Book syncing with iPhone and Gmail... When I was reading that article by Doyle, I was wondering whether he has already heard about the possibility to use Google for searching information on the internet...

For me, it&#039;s mainly about the whole OS X philosophy of the desktop. What if all apps I use were available for Windows? Wouldn&#039;t even think about switching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dump Mail.app for Gmail and iCal for Google Calendar? Nice. But I am using all four and have best of both worlds &#8212; my data available anywhere from the cloud &amp; Mac apps elegance at home on my computer&#8230;</p>
<p>IMAP, CalDAV, BusySync, Address Book syncing with iPhone and Gmail&#8230; When I was reading that article by Doyle, I was wondering whether he has already heard about the possibility to use Google for searching information on the internet&#8230;</p>
<p>For me, it&#8217;s mainly about the whole OS X philosophy of the desktop. What if all apps I use were available for Windows? Wouldn&#8217;t even think about switching.</p>
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