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		<title>By: The Case for an AOL Renaissance &#8211; GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Case for an AOL Renaissance &#8211; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] risky initiatives while undergoing a wrenching and costly turnaround (restructuring costs will reach $283 million), repay debt (AOL said Friday it received a one-year $250 million credit facility from Bank of [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] risky initiatives while undergoing a wrenching and costly turnaround (restructuring costs will reach $283 million), repay debt (AOL said Friday it received a one-year $250 million credit facility from Bank of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Verstraete</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230920</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Verstraete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Tech companies are driven by Wallstreet and the quarterly earnings. They require constant improvement in profit. As the top line does not grow, which is the case currently, the cost line needs to continuously reduce. The easiest way of doing that is by removing the most costly employees, and so the oldest people are taken out. In the long run, the history of enterprises are eraised. This actually put companies in danger of redoing the same mistakes as before.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tech companies are driven by Wallstreet and the quarterly earnings. They require constant improvement in profit. As the top line does not grow, which is the case currently, the cost line needs to continuously reduce. The easiest way of doing that is by removing the most costly employees, and so the oldest people are taken out. In the long run, the history of enterprises are eraised. This actually put companies in danger of redoing the same mistakes as before.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Paul Wins? The Stimulus Backlash &#171; The SiliconANGLE</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230919</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Paul Wins? The Stimulus Backlash &#171; The SiliconANGLE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Given that Kevin Kelleher was just featured this weekend over at GigaOM for asking the question “Why Are Tech Layoffs Rising in a Recovery?,” I thought this post from Jeff might be particularly poignant even though it’s not strictly [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Given that Kevin Kelleher was just featured this weekend over at GigaOM for asking the question “Why Are Tech Layoffs Rising in a Recovery?,” I thought this post from Jeff might be particularly poignant even though it’s not strictly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why are Tech Jobs Declining in a Recovery?&#160;&#124;&#160;Technosailor.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230918</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why are Tech Jobs Declining in a Recovery?&#160;&#124;&#160;Technosailor.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] question, posed and somewhat answered by Kevin Kelleher of GigaOm. In the article, Kevin suggests that with M&amp;A (Mergers and Acquisition) activity up, among [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] question, posed and somewhat answered by Kevin Kelleher of GigaOm. In the article, Kevin suggests that with M&amp;A (Mergers and Acquisition) activity up, among [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mgmt_Idiocracy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230917</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mgmt_Idiocracy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps there are layoffs because upper management and mid level management are clueless. They rush from trend to trend and outsource more of their core competencies and expect magic to occur in implementing new &quot;productivity&quot; gains in shorter and shorter time frames. Then they don&#039;t meet those impossible milestones and stagger off to the next hot button trend.

Let&#039;s run run run to virtualization! Hey, what happened to VMWare and their own virtual environment on the launch of Fusion 3.0? Their virtual platform (if they were using their own &quot;dogfood&quot;, crashed and burned.) Why no coverage of that?

Let&#039;s run run run to cloud computing! Oops, Gmail is down. Oh noes Amazon Elastic Cloud is down. Yeah put your assets in a third parties hands--bright choice. Kinda like the choice to outsource all your knowledge workers to third party firms. All that labor saved goes straight to the executives in the form of stock grants, executive bonuses and golden parachutes.

The only way they can see to boost their bottom line is to layoff people or outsource them so that Wall Street looks favorably on them and raises their stock prices. In return, Wall Street pays out huge bonuses to itself for short term thinking.

There is more worse news on the economy, it is not just the commercial real estate that is going to come crashing down, it is all the firms that were bought by leveraged buyouts that are next. And they will cause a new wave of unemployment as well, which will ripple through the economy. All these LBOs were based on loading up the acquired companies with debt. But fear not, wall street banks will do fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps there are layoffs because upper management and mid level management are clueless. They rush from trend to trend and outsource more of their core competencies and expect magic to occur in implementing new &#8220;productivity&#8221; gains in shorter and shorter time frames. Then they don&#8217;t meet those impossible milestones and stagger off to the next hot button trend.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s run run run to virtualization! Hey, what happened to VMWare and their own virtual environment on the launch of Fusion 3.0? Their virtual platform (if they were using their own &#8220;dogfood&#8221;, crashed and burned.) Why no coverage of that?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s run run run to cloud computing! Oops, Gmail is down. Oh noes Amazon Elastic Cloud is down. Yeah put your assets in a third parties hands&#8211;bright choice. Kinda like the choice to outsource all your knowledge workers to third party firms. All that labor saved goes straight to the executives in the form of stock grants, executive bonuses and golden parachutes.</p>
<p>The only way they can see to boost their bottom line is to layoff people or outsource them so that Wall Street looks favorably on them and raises their stock prices. In return, Wall Street pays out huge bonuses to itself for short term thinking.</p>
<p>There is more worse news on the economy, it is not just the commercial real estate that is going to come crashing down, it is all the firms that were bought by leveraged buyouts that are next. And they will cause a new wave of unemployment as well, which will ripple through the economy. All these LBOs were based on loading up the acquired companies with debt. But fear not, wall street banks will do fine.</p>
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		<title>By: hiscross</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230916</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiscross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This downturn will get worst in 2010 when the commercial buildings that can&#039;t be filled tank over 150 banks. Unless we give investors (overseas investors) something to tell them can make money in the US, things won&#039;t get better. Government stimulus is nothing more than giving some investor a portion of their investment back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This downturn will get worst in 2010 when the commercial buildings that can&#8217;t be filled tank over 150 banks. Unless we give investors (overseas investors) something to tell them can make money in the US, things won&#8217;t get better. Government stimulus is nothing more than giving some investor a portion of their investment back.</p>
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		<title>By: Adsnews</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230915</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adsnews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its simple – this is not a recovery

its a bear market counter-rally, thats all, and its probably over]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its simple – this is not a recovery</p>
<p>its a bear market counter-rally, thats all, and its probably over</p>
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		<title>By: HereAndNow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230914</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HereAndNow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be more interesting, to contrast the companies that are laying off, to the companies that are hiring. Or to illustrate it in another way, the kind of jobs that are on the decline, to the kind of jobs that are on the incline.

I suspect that:
1. the dramatic rise in smartphone sales is creating opportunities for smartphone app developers.
2. the movement toward cloud computing is creating opportunities for web app developers.
3. the movement toward &quot;green&quot; technology is creating &quot;green tech&quot; jobs.
4. ...

Technology shifts are normal. Being a vacuum tube designer was probably exciting, until the transistor came along.

Companies &amp; workers need to adjust to new market realities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be more interesting, to contrast the companies that are laying off, to the companies that are hiring. Or to illustrate it in another way, the kind of jobs that are on the decline, to the kind of jobs that are on the incline.</p>
<p>I suspect that:<br />
1. the dramatic rise in smartphone sales is creating opportunities for smartphone app developers.<br />
2. the movement toward cloud computing is creating opportunities for web app developers.<br />
3. the movement toward &#8220;green&#8221; technology is creating &#8220;green tech&#8221; jobs.<br />
4. &#8230;</p>
<p>Technology shifts are normal. Being a vacuum tube designer was probably exciting, until the transistor came along.</p>
<p>Companies &amp; workers need to adjust to new market realities.</p>
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		<title>By: sd</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230913</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article misses a couple of things:

- The uncertain tech funding environment (VCs have to take into consideration that not all their LPs will respond to capital calls)
- The upcoming rise in capital gains taxes (2010 Bush tax cut expiration)
- The potential of health &quot;reform&quot; to raise the cost of  coverage paid by employers (see what happened in Mass, Maine, Tennesee, and Hawaii when they had politicians control what coverage was mandated in insurance policies)
- The possibilty of Cap and Trade to raise the costs of doing business (hint: those datacenters use a lot of energy)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article misses a couple of things:</p>
<p>- The uncertain tech funding environment (VCs have to take into consideration that not all their LPs will respond to capital calls)<br />
- The upcoming rise in capital gains taxes (2010 Bush tax cut expiration)<br />
- The potential of health &#8220;reform&#8221; to raise the cost of  coverage paid by employers (see what happened in Mass, Maine, Tennesee, and Hawaii when they had politicians control what coverage was mandated in insurance policies)<br />
- The possibilty of Cap and Trade to raise the costs of doing business (hint: those datacenters use a lot of energy)</p>
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		<title>By: Eideard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eideard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a 4th factor: you aren&#039;t reading about anything happening outside of the Left Coast.

Here in New Mexico we have solar tech companies from India to California building facilities.  Hewlett-Packard has already held 2 job fairs for a tech support center under construction.

There&#039;s more.  Just read beyond sfgate.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a 4th factor: you aren&#8217;t reading about anything happening outside of the Left Coast.</p>
<p>Here in New Mexico we have solar tech companies from India to California building facilities.  Hewlett-Packard has already held 2 job fairs for a tech support center under construction.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more.  Just read beyond sfgate.com.</p>
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		<title>By: whoop dedo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230911</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whoop dedo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its simple - this is not a recovery

its a bear market counter-rally, thats all, and its probably over]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its simple &#8211; this is not a recovery</p>
<p>its a bear market counter-rally, thats all, and its probably over</p>
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		<title>By: Why Are Tech Layoffs Rising in a Recovery? &#8211; Gigaom.com &#124; The Bargain Netbook</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why Are Tech Layoffs Rising in a Recovery? &#8211; Gigaom.com &#124; The Bargain Netbook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Post By Google News Click Here For The Entire Article  Netbook Deals-   Share and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrnes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230909</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Byrnes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about &quot;in any recession employment is a lagging indicator&quot; do you not understand?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about &#8220;in any recession employment is a lagging indicator&#8221; do you not understand?</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quote: &quot;Why Are Tech Layoffs Rising in a Recovery?&quot;

Well, duh? Because the &quot;recovery&quot; is fraud. All you have to do is look at the raw numbers to see that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: &#8220;Why Are Tech Layoffs Rising in a Recovery?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, duh? Because the &#8220;recovery&#8221; is fraud. All you have to do is look at the raw numbers to see that.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel DiRico</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230907</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel DiRico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would agree that these first two points are a major factor, but there&#039;s a 3rd factor not mentioned here:

1. Mergers and acquisitions
2. Rapid changes in core markets
3. *Technological advances that reduce staffing needs

It is this 3rd point that cannot be overlooked. There are some major players out there that rival long established, global corporations yet they have less than 50 employees total. Things like virtualization, the cloud, low cost CMS&#039;, vastly improved development frameworks, etc.

As with all shifts however, we&#039;ll see brand new core markets open up with new and unexpected competition in areas that are not yet realized. This will sprout up new jobs, and it will happen almost suddenly once the crumbling dust settles.

Companies with long term vision see this coming and are making their moves on the staffing chess board accordingly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that these first two points are a major factor, but there&#8217;s a 3rd factor not mentioned here:</p>
<p>1. Mergers and acquisitions<br />
2. Rapid changes in core markets<br />
3. *Technological advances that reduce staffing needs</p>
<p>It is this 3rd point that cannot be overlooked. There are some major players out there that rival long established, global corporations yet they have less than 50 employees total. Things like virtualization, the cloud, low cost CMS&#8217;, vastly improved development frameworks, etc.</p>
<p>As with all shifts however, we&#8217;ll see brand new core markets open up with new and unexpected competition in areas that are not yet realized. This will sprout up new jobs, and it will happen almost suddenly once the crumbling dust settles.</p>
<p>Companies with long term vision see this coming and are making their moves on the staffing chess board accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wolf</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/21/why-are-tech-layoffs-rising-in-a-recovery/#comment-230906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Wolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are three large forces at work, independent of larger macroeconomic swings, hitting the U.S. (and European I would imagine) tech economies:.

1. The information technology industry, in total, is maturing. Remember, at one point trains and air travel were &quot;high-tech&quot;. At some point innovation in certain areas starts to reach ceilings. There are always new opportunities (phone apps as an example), but the new opportunities often don&#039;t fully replace the others that are moving to sunset status.

2. The continued move of innovation to lower-cost employment centers in emerging economies continues unabated (as discussed ad nauseum by the Friedmans of the world).

3. Technology companies are becoming perpetually more efficient by consuming their own dog-food. We all talk about great things like Software as a Service (i.e. Salesforce, Google Docs, etc), but we don&#039;t really examine these shifts as having significant economic (meaning jobs) impacts. Using managed software services means less IT folks internally to manage, less consultants for implementation, and so on down the line to the developer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are three large forces at work, independent of larger macroeconomic swings, hitting the U.S. (and European I would imagine) tech economies:.</p>
<p>1. The information technology industry, in total, is maturing. Remember, at one point trains and air travel were &#8220;high-tech&#8221;. At some point innovation in certain areas starts to reach ceilings. There are always new opportunities (phone apps as an example), but the new opportunities often don&#8217;t fully replace the others that are moving to sunset status.</p>
<p>2. The continued move of innovation to lower-cost employment centers in emerging economies continues unabated (as discussed ad nauseum by the Friedmans of the world).</p>
<p>3. Technology companies are becoming perpetually more efficient by consuming their own dog-food. We all talk about great things like Software as a Service (i.e. Salesforce, Google Docs, etc), but we don&#8217;t really examine these shifts as having significant economic (meaning jobs) impacts. Using managed software services means less IT folks internally to manage, less consultants for implementation, and so on down the line to the developer.</p>
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