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		<title>By: Ironic? Benioff and Maritz Talk Cloud Lock-In: Cloud &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ironic? Benioff and Maritz Talk Cloud Lock-In: Cloud &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] parties, as well as initiatives like OpenStack, truly are opening things up. Even Microsoft is pushing openness, to a degree, with Windows Azure and Hyper-V.  It’s a new world, we don’t yet know what an [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] parties, as well as initiatives like OpenStack, truly are opening things up. Even Microsoft is pushing openness, to a degree, with Windows Azure and Hyper-V.  It’s a new world, we don’t yet know what an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HP and Microsoft Buddy Up for Cloud Computing &#8211; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230788</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HP and Microsoft Buddy Up for Cloud Computing &#8211; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Microsoft will use HP gear in its Azure cloud. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Forecast for 2010: The Rise of Hybrid Clouds &#8211; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forecast for 2010: The Rise of Hybrid Clouds &#8211; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] and .NET development frameworks on services internally and on the cloud. See our posts &#8220;Microsoft Azure Walks a Thin Blue Line&#8221; and &#8220;Will Microsoft Drive Cloud Revenues in 2010?&#8221; Even Amazon has started to [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and .NET development frameworks on services internally and on the cloud. See our posts &#8220;Microsoft Azure Walks a Thin Blue Line&#8221; and &#8220;Will Microsoft Drive Cloud Revenues in 2010?&#8221; Even Amazon has started to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Predictions: The Fabulous 5 for 2010 &#8211; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Predictions: The Fabulous 5 for 2010 &#8211; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] keeps pushing its web services and cloud computing vision. And while it will see competition from Microsoft&#8217;s Azure, the company will continue to win, thanks to a groundswell of support from a new generation of [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] keeps pushing its web services and cloud computing vision. And while it will see competition from Microsoft&#8217;s Azure, the company will continue to win, thanks to a groundswell of support from a new generation of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: splendidcrm</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[splendidcrm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;SplendidCRM is also available for Azure.  But as a native C# .NET application, you might be able to leverage SplendidCRM to get a free Azure account when you signup for Microsoft BizSpark.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SplendidCRM is also available for Azure.  But as a native C# .NET application, you might be able to leverage SplendidCRM to get a free Azure account when you signup for Microsoft BizSpark.</p>
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		<title>By: Beaton Nyamapanda</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beaton Nyamapanda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now i&#039;m fuming. I&#039;m in Namibia (Africa for those who might not know). I signed up for Azure being a technocrat who likes all things new and powerful. And true to their word, Microsoft sent me a link to one of their development tools to connect to and use their hosted SQL servers.

And lo and behold, i cannot download it because i&#039;m not in the United States. Thats really a big blow, i&#039;m not sure i&#039;m gonna come back, will probably stick to developing my web apps the tried and tested old fashioned way, and upload them to a variety of smart hosting companies that allow me do what ever i want (data wise that is).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now i&#8217;m fuming. I&#8217;m in Namibia (Africa for those who might not know). I signed up for Azure being a technocrat who likes all things new and powerful. And true to their word, Microsoft sent me a link to one of their development tools to connect to and use their hosted SQL servers.</p>
<p>And lo and behold, i cannot download it because i&#8217;m not in the United States. Thats really a big blow, i&#8217;m not sure i&#8217;m gonna come back, will probably stick to developing my web apps the tried and tested old fashioned way, and upload them to a variety of smart hosting companies that allow me do what ever i want (data wise that is).</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Van Nieuwkerk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230783</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Van Nieuwkerk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you say entry level, what you really mean is for hobby projects. With BizSpark you can get free tools for 3 years and Azure free for 8 months. After that time you should be either making enough to pay $100 month for Azure or shut up shop. Azure is not targeted at people who just want to play around indefinitely and make no money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say entry level, what you really mean is for hobby projects. With BizSpark you can get free tools for 3 years and Azure free for 8 months. After that time you should be either making enough to pay $100 month for Azure or shut up shop. Azure is not targeted at people who just want to play around indefinitely and make no money.</p>
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		<title>By: contextfree</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[contextfree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, it&#039;s not unique.  It&#039;s currently more flexible than Google App Engine though, and with more platform support than Amazon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s not unique.  It&#8217;s currently more flexible than Google App Engine though, and with more platform support than Amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mishan Kontroll</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mishan Kontroll]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Microsoft ensures that developers can use a wide variety of programming languages to build on Azure such as PHP, Eclipse and Java, which is pretty unique among platforms.&quot;

Eclipse isn&#039;t a programming language. It&#039;s a development environment supporting several languages. And is this all that unique? Doesn&#039;t EC2 let you use a wide variety of tools? Don&#039;t run-of-the-mill hosting providers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Microsoft ensures that developers can use a wide variety of programming languages to build on Azure such as PHP, Eclipse and Java, which is pretty unique among platforms.&#8221;</p>
<p>Eclipse isn&#8217;t a programming language. It&#8217;s a development environment supporting several languages. And is this all that unique? Doesn&#8217;t EC2 let you use a wide variety of tools? Don&#8217;t run-of-the-mill hosting providers?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the costs don’t come down it benefits Google who is making sure the costs come down. Do nothing. Die.

We built the iPhone side of the tech, but Apple will not allow certain types of apps with embedded content — music. There is an incumbent that could be knocked over, and will be. The dynamics favor external, dynamic intelligence rather than an application that organizes liner file systems. But, we can ill afford to develop the Android side of the equation, and not all of the view controls are available there yet.

My experience is that either I am crazy and this is silly or that people are not quite there app wise. I waiver between the two! It would be good to generalize app development across platforms. This is where Adobe has an opportunity. An online system that controls the process from build through development would be incredibly cool. It would be like Coda with wireframes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the costs don’t come down it benefits Google who is making sure the costs come down. Do nothing. Die.</p>
<p>We built the iPhone side of the tech, but Apple will not allow certain types of apps with embedded content — music. There is an incumbent that could be knocked over, and will be. The dynamics favor external, dynamic intelligence rather than an application that organizes liner file systems. But, we can ill afford to develop the Android side of the equation, and not all of the view controls are available there yet.</p>
<p>My experience is that either I am crazy and this is silly or that people are not quite there app wise. I waiver between the two! It would be good to generalize app development across platforms. This is where Adobe has an opportunity. An online system that controls the process from build through development would be incredibly cool. It would be like Coda with wireframes!</p>
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		<title>By: ronald</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ronald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you automate things the cost come down, but like in all complex system there is a site effect.  The cost of entry comes down.
No incumbent in any market likes that. Better keep playing with players you know then to let unknown new players enter the field.

As more people are working on a product as more linear the solution becomes, and as more complicated.

Which clearly favors the existing large players, because of the resources they can throw at a problem. Even to &quot;copy&quot; it.
Except when a small group of people comes up with a solution which is outside the linear path.  Hence the success and failure of start ups.
If you are outside the linear path don&#039;t expect the big players to jump on an idea, but on the other hand you might be able to knock them over.
My &quot;guess&quot; is 80% of all the code written for apps in the application store could be generated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you automate things the cost come down, but like in all complex system there is a site effect.  The cost of entry comes down.<br />
No incumbent in any market likes that. Better keep playing with players you know then to let unknown new players enter the field.</p>
<p>As more people are working on a product as more linear the solution becomes, and as more complicated.</p>
<p>Which clearly favors the existing large players, because of the resources they can throw at a problem. Even to &#8220;copy&#8221; it.<br />
Except when a small group of people comes up with a solution which is outside the linear path.  Hence the success and failure of start ups.<br />
If you are outside the linear path don&#8217;t expect the big players to jump on an idea, but on the other hand you might be able to knock them over.<br />
My &#8220;guess&#8221; is 80% of all the code written for apps in the application store could be generated.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This conversation really has my interest for the moment, because this is completely possible and a pretty good idea. Think HyperCrad for mobile apps. That is how somebody described what we built  It doesn’t build everything, but it builds a certain class of objects including wire-framed walkthroughs. Microsoft has all of the database tools to allow for the creation of mobile products and services.

Take the project I am looking at now, since this one nearly bankrupted me! Grrr. Mobile education requires that I be able to build certain types of products repetitively. Boioks, readers, quizzes, professional development video training tools. If I had a templated system that allows me to do this, as a teacher I could literally plug in my content and build for three mobile platforms. As a UI/UX professional, I could create a wireframe, and build a walk through application across multiple platforms. That is exactly what we use this for now. Walkthroughs…

The process requires databases on all sides for views, data and content, apps on all the platforms, and a tool that understands how to bridge the three spaces. Such tools would equivalently be useful for Nokia on Maemo. I would anticipate this to be much more difficult through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This conversation really has my interest for the moment, because this is completely possible and a pretty good idea. Think HyperCrad for mobile apps. That is how somebody described what we built  It doesn’t build everything, but it builds a certain class of objects including wire-framed walkthroughs. Microsoft has all of the database tools to allow for the creation of mobile products and services.</p>
<p>Take the project I am looking at now, since this one nearly bankrupted me! Grrr. Mobile education requires that I be able to build certain types of products repetitively. Boioks, readers, quizzes, professional development video training tools. If I had a templated system that allows me to do this, as a teacher I could literally plug in my content and build for three mobile platforms. As a UI/UX professional, I could create a wireframe, and build a walk through application across multiple platforms. That is exactly what we use this for now. Walkthroughs…</p>
<p>The process requires databases on all sides for views, data and content, apps on all the platforms, and a tool that understands how to bridge the three spaces. Such tools would equivalently be useful for Nokia on Maemo. I would anticipate this to be much more difficult through.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree! As a mobile developer MS needs to attract people to this technology. It almost makes me fondly remember that at one point not too long ago, they could have been the savior of mobile. Microsoft never quite delivered on Windows Mobile and Symbian et al. never allowed for the types of products that people such as myself wanted to build.

If Microsoft wants some mojo, start at the tools and build up. I was just looking for online wireframing tools and project management technology for mobile efforts. Being agnostic with interesting build export options could be a very good point to stem the tide. Similar to Flash, they could allow for builds from wireframes and even produce iPhone builds of certain types. Interested? We built a customized build process that allows us to push a button and spit out an iPhone app. Apple will never allow this!

It could also be a base for publishing scenarios. One of the reasons we built this was to allow a magazine or a catalog publisher to customize builds for apps that contained media such as photos and video and music. Apple again will not allow stuff like this. But being able to wireframe a magazine, tie it to the databases controlling the content, dynamically bridging web views and then exporting a build across Android, iPhone and Windows mobile would be quite cool. This is literally possible for certain classes of applications.

Such products would also be interesting for onscreen prototypes and such. Imagine building a wireframe and exporting it cross-platform to a bunch of mobile devices? Microsoft could essentially become the glue, and get hold above Palm and Nokia. This will not be the case without workflow tools or very good technologies. Additionally, this could be tied to WebKit views, and a packaging system could be devised to hold the views and media. That would require that MS make Mobile Explorer WebKit compliant, which they definitely should do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree! As a mobile developer MS needs to attract people to this technology. It almost makes me fondly remember that at one point not too long ago, they could have been the savior of mobile. Microsoft never quite delivered on Windows Mobile and Symbian et al. never allowed for the types of products that people such as myself wanted to build.</p>
<p>If Microsoft wants some mojo, start at the tools and build up. I was just looking for online wireframing tools and project management technology for mobile efforts. Being agnostic with interesting build export options could be a very good point to stem the tide. Similar to Flash, they could allow for builds from wireframes and even produce iPhone builds of certain types. Interested? We built a customized build process that allows us to push a button and spit out an iPhone app. Apple will never allow this!</p>
<p>It could also be a base for publishing scenarios. One of the reasons we built this was to allow a magazine or a catalog publisher to customize builds for apps that contained media such as photos and video and music. Apple again will not allow stuff like this. But being able to wireframe a magazine, tie it to the databases controlling the content, dynamically bridging web views and then exporting a build across Android, iPhone and Windows mobile would be quite cool. This is literally possible for certain classes of applications.</p>
<p>Such products would also be interesting for onscreen prototypes and such. Imagine building a wireframe and exporting it cross-platform to a bunch of mobile devices? Microsoft could essentially become the glue, and get hold above Palm and Nokia. This will not be the case without workflow tools or very good technologies. Additionally, this could be tied to WebKit views, and a packaging system could be devised to hold the views and media. That would require that MS make Mobile Explorer WebKit compliant, which they definitely should do!</p>
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		<title>By: Day 2 at Microsoft PDC09; Why Chrome OS Will Fail; Windows Azure is the Future of Microsoft - SharePoint Daily - Bamboo Nation</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230776</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Day 2 at Microsoft PDC09; Why Chrome OS Will Fail; Windows Azure is the Future of Microsoft - SharePoint Daily - Bamboo Nation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Microsoft Azure Walks a Thin Blue Line (GigaOm)With Azure, Microsoft is trying to strike a balance between giving customers the ease of a platform as a service and the customization that power users need to build tailored&#160; applications &#8212; both in-house and in the public Azure cloud. After the Redmond giant&#8217;s developer conference this week, where it detailed more of its plans, it became clear that Azure is striving to be a general-purpose cloud offering for enterprises that doesn&#8217;t make developers sweat the small stuff or compromise on bigger things. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Microsoft Azure Walks a Thin Blue Line (GigaOm)With Azure, Microsoft is trying to strike a balance between giving customers the ease of a platform as a service and the customization that power users need to build tailored&nbsp; applications &mdash; both in-house and in the public Azure cloud. After the Redmond giant&rsquo;s developer conference this week, where it detailed more of its plans, it became clear that Azure is striving to be a general-purpose cloud offering for enterprises that doesn&rsquo;t make developers sweat the small stuff or compromise on bigger things. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Wallace</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this feels nice...but its too expensive at this time...

Steve
http://www.isopurewater.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this feels nice&#8230;but its too expensive at this time&#8230;</p>
<p>Steve<br />
<a href="http://www.isopurewater.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.isopurewater.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/19/microsoft-azure-walks-a-thin-blue-line/#comment-230774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Azure is to expensive for entry level projects. MS should of looked at what google did with GAE pricing.

They should have an entry level pricing which is no more than a virtual dedicated server to run.

The price of Azure is too much for developers boot strapping in my opinion. Yes on BIzspark I get some help but after that runs out i need to find the money to run it when I could run it for cheaper elsewhere.

I love the concept of it but it&#039;s over priced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azure is to expensive for entry level projects. MS should of looked at what google did with GAE pricing.</p>
<p>They should have an entry level pricing which is no more than a virtual dedicated server to run.</p>
<p>The price of Azure is too much for developers boot strapping in my opinion. Yes on BIzspark I get some help but after that runs out i need to find the money to run it when I could run it for cheaper elsewhere.</p>
<p>I love the concept of it but it&#8217;s over priced.</p>
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