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	<title>Comments on: Apple Ranks a Lackluster Fourth in Notebook Reliability Study</title>
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		<title>By: monicauk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/17/apple-ranks-a-lackluster-fourth-in-notebook-reliability-study/#comment-374814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monicauk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article. Thanks for sharing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. Thanks for sharing it.</p>
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		<title>By: r4 ds</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/17/apple-ranks-a-lackluster-fourth-in-notebook-reliability-study/#comment-374813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[r4 ds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always like the Apple brand it has very high reputation in market its all product is very nice and with some high functionality.According to a new study by research firm Square-trade, Apple (s aapl) is fairly reliable, but not the most reliable ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always like the Apple brand it has very high reputation in market its all product is very nice and with some high functionality.According to a new study by research firm Square-trade, Apple (s aapl) is fairly reliable, but not the most reliable &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: New Study Says Apple is Most Reliable, Not Asus &#124; The Apple Tech Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/17/apple-ranks-a-lackluster-fourth-in-notebook-reliability-study/#comment-374812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Study Says Apple is Most Reliable, Not Asus &#124; The Apple Tech Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] month, I reported the results of a study detailing notebook reliability numbers. Many commenters disagreed with the results of the study by U.S. warranty company SquareTrade, and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] month, I reported the results of a study detailing notebook reliability numbers. Many commenters disagreed with the results of the study by U.S. warranty company SquareTrade, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New Study Says Apple is Most Reliable, Not Asus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Study Says Apple is Most Reliable, Not Asus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 08, 2009 by Darrell Etherington and No one has commented    Last month, I reported the results of a study detailing notebook reliability numbers. Many commenters disagreed with the results of the study by U.S. warranty company SquareTrade, and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 08, 2009 by Darrell Etherington and No one has commented    Last month, I reported the results of a study detailing notebook reliability numbers. Many commenters disagreed with the results of the study by U.S. warranty company SquareTrade, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SquareTrade Reports on Laptop Reliability: Asus and Toshiba come out on top &#171; SquareTrade News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/17/apple-ranks-a-lackluster-fourth-in-notebook-reliability-study/#comment-374810</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SquareTrade Reports on Laptop Reliability: Asus and Toshiba come out on top &#171; SquareTrade News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] coverage can also be found here: Gizmodo, Engadget, PCWorld, Electronista, ComputerWorld, the Apple Blog, The Business Journals, Laptop Magazine, 9 to 5 Mac, Tom&#8217;s Hardware Guide, Mac Blorge, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] coverage can also be found here: Gizmodo, Engadget, PCWorld, Electronista, ComputerWorld, the Apple Blog, The Business Journals, Laptop Magazine, 9 to 5 Mac, Tom&#8217;s Hardware Guide, Mac Blorge, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Veit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Veit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reporting was a bit unfortunate, since it left out a few very significant pieces of information:
- The dataset is based on SquareTrade&#039;s extended warranty claims
- The dataset includes at least 1,000 claims per brand, even from Apple.  While Apple might be under-represented, it&#039;s not only a handful of Apple owners who reported issues.
- It does not include netbooks, only laptops, since netbooks have not been around for 24 months.  But based on the 12 months of netbook data, netbook malfunctions track 20% higher than laptops
- Entry-level laptops have a higher failure rate than high-end laptops (first 12 months, no 2-year dataset available)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reporting was a bit unfortunate, since it left out a few very significant pieces of information:<br />
- The dataset is based on SquareTrade&#8217;s extended warranty claims<br />
- The dataset includes at least 1,000 claims per brand, even from Apple.  While Apple might be under-represented, it&#8217;s not only a handful of Apple owners who reported issues.<br />
- It does not include netbooks, only laptops, since netbooks have not been around for 24 months.  But based on the 12 months of netbook data, netbook malfunctions track 20% higher than laptops<br />
- Entry-level laptops have a higher failure rate than high-end laptops (first 12 months, no 2-year dataset available)</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitry</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/17/apple-ranks-a-lackluster-fourth-in-notebook-reliability-study/#comment-374808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dmitry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@John, low prices can be reached through different factors. It doesn&#039;t mean they are cheap so they are not reliable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John, low prices can be reached through different factors. It doesn&#8217;t mean they are cheap so they are not reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/17/apple-ranks-a-lackluster-fourth-in-notebook-reliability-study/#comment-374807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering the low, low prices of Apple products, I think 4th is pretty snappy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the low, low prices of Apple products, I think 4th is pretty snappy!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is study conducted by a company that sells extended warrantees. So much for credibility.&quot;

The flaws with this study go way beyond that.

First, it&#039;s internally self-consistent. They report that Netbooks are far more troubleprone than laptops - yet Asus (which sells more netbooks than anyone AFAIK) is at the top of the list. That should tell you something.

Basically, if you have a $300 netbook that&#039;s 2 years old and it breaks, you probably trash it. If you have a 2-3 year old Dell or HP, it&#039;s probably close to the end of its life, so you may or may not fix it.  If you have a $2,000 MacBook Pro that&#039;s 2 years old, it still has plenty of useful life, so you&#039;re going to fix it. That alone negates the value of a survey based on warranty usage.

Then, consider the numbers. I don&#039;t know a single Mac user who bought a third party warranty. Everyone I know uses Applecare. That guarantees that the sample is unrepresentative for Apple users (and probably too small to be of any value). Similarly, do you know ANYONE who bought a warranty for a cheapo Netbook? I sure don&#039;t. So the majority of Netbook failures are not documented by this type of survey.

Consumer Reports is much closer to reality. They survey problem rates based on a sample of ALL computer purchasers. There may still be sampling errors, but at least CR doesn&#039;t have the major flaws above.

I really expect more rational thinking from The Apple Blog. Why do you let garbage like that fake survey go through without comment?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is study conducted by a company that sells extended warrantees. So much for credibility.&#8221;</p>
<p>The flaws with this study go way beyond that.</p>
<p>First, it&#8217;s internally self-consistent. They report that Netbooks are far more troubleprone than laptops &#8211; yet Asus (which sells more netbooks than anyone AFAIK) is at the top of the list. That should tell you something.</p>
<p>Basically, if you have a $300 netbook that&#8217;s 2 years old and it breaks, you probably trash it. If you have a 2-3 year old Dell or HP, it&#8217;s probably close to the end of its life, so you may or may not fix it.  If you have a $2,000 MacBook Pro that&#8217;s 2 years old, it still has plenty of useful life, so you&#8217;re going to fix it. That alone negates the value of a survey based on warranty usage.</p>
<p>Then, consider the numbers. I don&#8217;t know a single Mac user who bought a third party warranty. Everyone I know uses Applecare. That guarantees that the sample is unrepresentative for Apple users (and probably too small to be of any value). Similarly, do you know ANYONE who bought a warranty for a cheapo Netbook? I sure don&#8217;t. So the majority of Netbook failures are not documented by this type of survey.</p>
<p>Consumer Reports is much closer to reality. They survey problem rates based on a sample of ALL computer purchasers. There may still be sampling errors, but at least CR doesn&#8217;t have the major flaws above.</p>
<p>I really expect more rational thinking from The Apple Blog. Why do you let garbage like that fake survey go through without comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/11/17/apple-ranks-a-lackluster-fourth-in-notebook-reliability-study/#comment-374805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but the link works. It&#039;s taking me to the start site where I can read information about extended warranties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but the link works. It&#8217;s taking me to the start site where I can read information about extended warranties.</p>
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