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	<title>Comments on: Aptera Founders Ousted in Showdown With Auto Vets: Report</title>
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		<title>By: Aptera Faces More Than Leadership Troubles After Founders&#8217; Official Exit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aptera Faces More Than Leadership Troubles After Founders&#8217; Official Exit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] the other co-founder, Steve Fambro, would be taking an extended vacation amid rumors the pair were oustered in a boardroom showdown. Now Aptera says Fambro won&#8217;t be returning to work, after all. According to a newsletter [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the other co-founder, Steve Fambro, would be taking an extended vacation amid rumors the pair were oustered in a boardroom showdown. Now Aptera says Fambro won&#8217;t be returning to work, after all. According to a newsletter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aptera on the Skids: Electric 2e on Hold Amid Layoffs, Dash for Cash</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aptera on the Skids: Electric 2e on Hold Amid Layoffs, Dash for Cash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] The company has laid off an undisclosed number of employees, co-founder Steve Fambro is taking an extended vacation (he&#8217;ll return in the new year), and Chris Anthony, the other co-founder, is &#8220;stepping [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The company has laid off an undisclosed number of employees, co-founder Steve Fambro is taking an extended vacation (he&#8217;ll return in the new year), and Chris Anthony, the other co-founder, is &#8220;stepping [...]</p>
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		<title>By: waltinseattle</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;So Jason, I think you just warned all us would be industrialsists about the consequences of doing deals with the devil?  Though I&#039;m not sure of everything you say, its kinda &quot;greek to me, hard to read too, but I have given this control issue a lot of thought.  Its a pitty to compromise with the beancounters/bean granting banker people and see the orriginal concept go out the window.  It also shows, if you are corect, that the detroit mind has not learned flexibility, and still sees the future vehicle looking like the last centuries vehicle.  I have been trying to do a more extensive upset of this, of what a &quot;primary vehhicle&quot; will be, look like, etc.  I was very amazed at the onli  slurs the &quot;public&quot; threw at the apters.  Who wants to please people who still thing fins are fine but only if you put them on a box not an airplane without them is the ugliest thing they would never want to be seen dead in.  Wow, can we just go back to buggies and whips and a little wax on my mustache too?  Some people are about that retro`, to those of us who think forward and openly.  Sorry for Aptera. I had dreams of it cracking the &quot;yesterdays vehicle for tomorrow&quot; inertia.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Jason, I think you just warned all us would be industrialsists about the consequences of doing deals with the devil?  Though I&#8217;m not sure of everything you say, its kinda &#8220;greek to me, hard to read too, but I have given this control issue a lot of thought.  Its a pitty to compromise with the beancounters/bean granting banker people and see the orriginal concept go out the window.  It also shows, if you are corect, that the detroit mind has not learned flexibility, and still sees the future vehicle looking like the last centuries vehicle.  I have been trying to do a more extensive upset of this, of what a &#8220;primary vehhicle&#8221; will be, look like, etc.  I was very amazed at the onli  slurs the &#8220;public&#8221; threw at the apters.  Who wants to please people who still thing fins are fine but only if you put them on a box not an airplane without them is the ugliest thing they would never want to be seen dead in.  Wow, can we just go back to buggies and whips and a little wax on my mustache too?  Some people are about that retro`, to those of us who think forward and openly.  Sorry for Aptera. I had dreams of it cracking the &#8220;yesterdays vehicle for tomorrow&#8221; inertia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dorm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Dorm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Aptera, Zap, Eco Motors, Fischer, etc.. were killed of by the DOE. The DOE Loan and ATVM funding heads worked FOR Detroit. They with-held funding for the new competing companies that would threaten Detroit until it forced those companioes to do extreme things to try to survive, like have internal takeovers in order to survive. The DOE funding groups cut off their other means of support by telling ALL of the investor groups in the world that they would subordinate their terms with more attractive terms so they had to wait to fund After DOE&#039;s ATVM and loan gaurantee funds funded, which the heads of the loan gaurantee and ATVM groups never intended to do.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aptera, Zap, Eco Motors, Fischer, etc.. were killed of by the DOE. The DOE Loan and ATVM funding heads worked FOR Detroit. They with-held funding for the new competing companies that would threaten Detroit until it forced those companioes to do extreme things to try to survive, like have internal takeovers in order to survive. The DOE funding groups cut off their other means of support by telling ALL of the investor groups in the world that they would subordinate their terms with more attractive terms so they had to wait to fund After DOE&#8217;s ATVM and loan gaurantee funds funded, which the heads of the loan gaurantee and ATVM groups never intended to do.</p>
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