Comments on: The New New Carrier Deck http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:12:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Survey: App Developers Not Happy With Android – GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/#comment-987284 Survey: App Developers Not Happy With Android – GigaOM Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:07:59 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=78489#comment-987284 <p>[...] felt that the Android Marketplace’s design makes it difficult for apps to be noticed. As I pointed out earlier, special marketplaces being set up by phone companies is only going to muddy the [...]</p> [...] felt that the Android Marketplace’s design makes it difficult for apps to be noticed. As I pointed out earlier, special marketplaces being set up by phone companies is only going to muddy the [...]

]]> By: Data Usage Be Damned, T-Mobile Losing Its Grip on Customers http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/#comment-982868 Data Usage Be Damned, T-Mobile Losing Its Grip on Customers Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:50:48 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=78489#comment-982868 <p>[...] in an effort to compete with cut-rate service providers such as Leap Wireless and MetroPCS, and it is vying for revenue-boosting, smartphone-using consumers with devices such as the Android-based Motorola Cliq and myTouch 3G. But while the carrier’s [...]</p> [...] in an effort to compete with cut-rate service providers such as Leap Wireless and MetroPCS, and it is vying for revenue-boosting, smartphone-using consumers with devices such as the Android-based Motorola Cliq and myTouch 3G. But while the carrier’s [...]

]]> By: Adam Somer http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/#comment-982794 Adam Somer Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:09:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=78489#comment-982794 <p>This seems more like a hybrid model where their deck is just one of the channels within the far more accessible marketplace.</p> <p>Isn't that really what the iPhone's app store is? The only difference being the company that controls the deck. Apple instead of AT&T. Apple took the control away from AT&T and lowered the fence so that more developers can get in, but they still list "featured" applications (think of it as an inner compound with its own fence) and those are the ones that get all the exposure, just like with a carrier deck.</p> <p>This is just another case of one overlord jockeying for position with another. In the end, the users win as long as the perimeter fence isn't raised again and there is no indication that anyone is pushing for that to happen. No one has to enter the "inner compound" if they don't want to.</p> This seems more like a hybrid model where their deck is just one of the channels within the far more accessible marketplace.

Isn’t that really what the iPhone’s app store is? The only difference being the company that controls the deck. Apple instead of AT&T. Apple took the control away from AT&T and lowered the fence so that more developers can get in, but they still list “featured” applications (think of it as an inner compound with its own fence) and those are the ones that get all the exposure, just like with a carrier deck.

This is just another case of one overlord jockeying for position with another. In the end, the users win as long as the perimeter fence isn’t raised again and there is no indication that anyone is pushing for that to happen. No one has to enter the “inner compound” if they don’t want to.

]]> By: Norm Liang http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/#comment-982706 Norm Liang Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:34:44 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=78489#comment-982706 <p>It seems like a way to have a platform provider support the backoffice processes of managing an App store. As many developers used to beg for access to billing APIs before being offered to a select few, it seems that this path may help streamline monetization. It highlights that there is a need for some type of platform to be able to manage users, share customer service issues, and that the Platform providers may begin to build features specifically to make sure that the carriers offer these smartphones to consumers at relatively lower rates in the hopes that they are able to entice partners and continue the momentum as the race to have as many apps on the phone as there are websites for your browser heats up.</p> It seems like a way to have a platform provider support the backoffice processes of managing an App store. As many developers used to beg for access to billing APIs before being offered to a select few, it seems that this path may help streamline monetization. It highlights that there is a need for some type of platform to be able to manage users, share customer service issues, and that the Platform providers may begin to build features specifically to make sure that the carriers offer these smartphones to consumers at relatively lower rates in the hopes that they are able to entice partners and continue the momentum as the race to have as many apps on the phone as there are websites for your browser heats up.

]]> By: Paul Kapustka http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/#comment-982680 Paul Kapustka Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:09:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=78489#comment-982680 <p>It strikes me that the big carriers still don't understand or want to embrace the apps model. Hence the "approved" apps list, which does remind one of the days of yore. At the recent Sprint dev conference there was some moaning and groaning about the idea of thousands of apps and "how does anyone make money if there are thousands of apps?"</p> <p>Without a benevolent dictator like Apple to drive the development, how long will it take for apps to gain traction on Android, etc.? Or will the apps succeed in spite of the operators?</p> It strikes me that the big carriers still don’t understand or want to embrace the apps model. Hence the “approved” apps list, which does remind one of the days of yore. At the recent Sprint dev conference there was some moaning and groaning about the idea of thousands of apps and “how does anyone make money if there are thousands of apps?”

Without a benevolent dictator like Apple to drive the development, how long will it take for apps to gain traction on Android, etc.? Or will the apps succeed in spite of the operators?

]]> By: Friends of Dave (friendsofdave) 's status on Thursday, 05-Nov-09 03:58:13 UTC - Identi.ca http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/#comment-982677 Friends of Dave (friendsofdave) 's status on Thursday, 05-Nov-09 03:58:13 UTC - Identi.ca Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:58:21 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=78489#comment-982677 <p>[...] http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/ a few seconds ago from api [...]</p> [...] http://gigaom.com/2009/11/04/the-new-new-carrier-deck/ a few seconds ago from api [...]

]]>